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House GOP drops plan to split 9th Circuit
AP/MSNBC ^ | 12/19/05

Posted on 12/19/2005 8:44:54 PM PST by lowbridge

In the face of US Senate opposition, House Republicans have dropped a plan to split the Ninth US Circuit Court of Appeals.

House Republicans who contend the nation's largest federal appeals court has gotten too big to be effective had sought to attach legislation breaking it in two to a deficit-trimming bill.

Senators led by California Democrat Dianne Feinstein vowed to block the move if it made it to the Senate floor. The measure was left out when the bill passed the House early Monday. A Senate vote could come later in the day.

Nevada Democrat Harry Reid also opposes the measure while Republican Senator John Ensign supports it.

The Ninth Circuit covers nine states with about 54 million people, and has 28 judgeships. The circuit with the next-largest number of judgeships is the New Orleans-based Fifth Circuit, with 17.

Opponents of splitting the 9th Circuit alleged political motives by Republicans annoyed by its rulings, including a 2002 opinion that declared the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional when recited in public schools.

The House legislation would have created a Ninth Circuit covering California, Hawaii and the Pacific Islands, and a new 12th Circuit covering Alaska, Washington state, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Nevada and Arizona.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alaska; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Hawaii; US: Idaho; US: Montana; US: Nevada; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 109th; 9thcircuit; 9thcourt; gramsci; house; judiciary
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To: lowbridge
Uhh.....anyone really surpised that Republicans backed down because of threats from the other side?

Get rid of the incumbents!!

41 posted on 12/19/2005 9:30:25 PM PST by technomage
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To: lowbridge

We need Tom Delay back.


42 posted on 12/19/2005 9:31:47 PM PST by sport
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To: lowbridge

Disappointing.


43 posted on 12/19/2005 9:34:01 PM PST by KoRn (Merry Christmas!!)
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To: technomage

And backed down over what? Are you going to tell me the voters care about the organization of the federal appellate judiciary? Oy.


44 posted on 12/19/2005 9:36:27 PM PST by Williams
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To: lowbridge

We can thank our weak links in the Senate for this. McCain, Specter, Chaffee, Collins, Warner and Hagel are their names. Until they're replaced, the bad guys will get to pick and choose their victories and defeats in the Senate.


45 posted on 12/19/2005 9:36:47 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Baby Driver

I would be in favour of getting rid of the filibuster, however it's possible we could regret doing so when we are in the minority again and want to stop some Rat insanity from passing.


46 posted on 12/19/2005 9:38:50 PM PST by Free Dominoes
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Even if all 55 republican senators voted for it, we would still be shy 5 votes to break a filibuster.


47 posted on 12/19/2005 9:39:41 PM PST by Free Dominoes
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
Isn`t America lucky to have your clear view of the world. Oh, by the way, how did you spend your tax cut?
48 posted on 12/19/2005 9:41:34 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: Williams
Are you going to tell me the voters care about the organization of the federal appellate judiciary?

That is a moot point. It does not matter what the general population thinks. What matters is that the Republicans caved once again on a matter that needs to be done: Breaking up the 9th.

49 posted on 12/19/2005 9:51:18 PM PST by technomage
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To: Torie
California just loves sticking it to Utah and Idaho and other backward mountain places.

Backward? Utah is Reagan country my FRiend.

Oh, and Utah's not in the 9th circuit.


50 posted on 12/19/2005 10:08:33 PM PST by glock rocks ("God's gift to you is life itself. What you do with it is your gift to God." - Leo Buscaglia)
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To: lowbridge

The Republicans quit faster than the French.

The two party system is nothing but a myth, there is only party in control inthe United Stats,the Democrats.

While there may be a Republican in the White House, more Republicans than Democrats in Congress, the Republicans do not run squat.


51 posted on 12/19/2005 10:15:00 PM PST by sport
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To: lowbridge

Grrrr...this says everything about those who opposed.


52 posted on 12/19/2005 10:21:37 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: lowbridge

The only news here is that they didn't attach it to the budget bill.

This wasn't a bill to add such things to -- that doesn't mean that this won't be done, perhaps as soon as next year.

This bill contained about as much as you could put in and still pass. It only passed the House 212-206 as it is.


53 posted on 12/19/2005 10:23:51 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: sport

Exactly. Our side is the Washington Generals. The Dems are the Globetrotters. They win. We shoot and miss and tumble all over the floor. We could have ninety Republicans in the senate and we'd still go belly up.


54 posted on 12/19/2005 10:40:46 PM PST by Luke21 (Political correctness is the insane religion of our rulers.)
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To: lowbridge

GOP caves again!!!


55 posted on 12/19/2005 10:47:36 PM PST by GeronL (1678 computer infections and still Freeping!!!)
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To: GeronL

The "Two-Party Cartel" owned by the elites, get their wish with this blunder. So which faction of this cartel has their constituants most fooled?


56 posted on 12/19/2005 11:20:49 PM PST by Digger (Outsource CONgress)
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To: Digger

They are attempting to make conservatives think that the GOP is their party


57 posted on 12/19/2005 11:22:28 PM PST by GeronL (1678 computer infections and still Freeping!!!)
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To: Free Dominoes
If it takes 60 votes to pass something, then neither side controls the senate.

Please allow me to ReWrite™ that...

If it takes 60 votes to pass something, then neither side the Party of Gubmint controls the senate.

58 posted on 12/19/2005 11:25:26 PM PST by steveegg (Take two - throw those long knives at the DemonRATs and lieberals - and include the RINOs)
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To: GeronL

Why is splitting the 9th even that important? Just fill it with conservatives. Problem solved. It's going to be a lot easier to defeat that filibuster than one against splitting the 9th.

There are four vacancies on the court right now. Time to fill them.

All that splitting the 9th is going to do is limit the range of cases it's going to hear. You're still going to have the same dopes from the People's Republic of San Francisco bringing their cases before the court if you split the 9th.

It would give President Bush the chance to appoint a bunch of new originalists to a new circuit, but you'd still have the 9th over there creating federal rulings that can only be overturned by the Supreme Court. If you ask me, you're better of trying to get that circuit under control.

Anyone got a reason why splitting would actually be better?


59 posted on 12/19/2005 11:34:57 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: CheyennePress

Senators think they have to power to block someone from their state they think is not right. No idea why, and those states are all pretty liberal apparently


60 posted on 12/19/2005 11:40:24 PM PST by GeronL (1678 computer infections and still Freeping!!!)
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