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CHRIS MATTHEWS: 'BUSH BELONGS ON MOUNT RUSHMORE' IF WINS 'GREATEST GAMBLE SINCE FDR BACKED BRITS'
Hardball with Chris Matthews ^ | 12.18.05 | Mia T

Posted on 12/18/2005 9:00:39 AM PST by Mia T

CHRIS MATTHEWS: 'BUSH BELONGS ON MOUNT RUSHMORE'
IF HE WINS 'GREATEST GAMBLE SINCE ROOSEVELT BACKED BRITAIN BEFORE WWII'

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WHY DID BILL CLINTON IGNORE TERRORISM?
Was it simply the constraints of his liberal mindset, or was it something even more threatening to our national security?

by Mia T, 8.18.05

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thanx to jla and Wolverine for the audio

"Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in '91 and he went to the Sudan.

We'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him [bin Laden].

At the time, '96, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.

So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have; but they thought it was a hot potato. They didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan."

bill clinton
Sunday, Aug. 11, 2002
Clinton Reveals on Secret Audio:
I Nixed Bin Laden Extradition Offer



"I remember exactly what happened. Bruce Lindsey said to me on the phone, 'My God, a second plane has hit the tower.' And I said, 'Bin Laden did this.' that's the first thing I said. He said, 'How can you be sure?' I said 'Because only bin Laden and the Iranians could set up the network to do this and they [the Iranians] wouldn't do it because they have a country in targets. Bin Laden did it.'

I thought that my virtual obsession with him was well placed and I was full of regret that I didn't get him.

bill clinton
Sunday, Sept 3, 2002
Larry King Live


COPYRIGHT MIA T 2005

 

A CALL TO IMPEACH CLINTON IN ABSENTIA



by Mia T, 11.17.05


 

 

 

 





id you see it? More to the point, did the American press?

bill clinton made page one of Al Jazeera today. A schizophrenic mix of schadenfreude and agitprop, it was the story of an impeached ex-president of America trashing America--to standing Os--in the Arab state of Dubai--in the middle of a war zone--only several hundred miles from the American troops--American troops protecting his--and his missus'--seditious and cowardly collective _ _ _.

And, to rub it in, the traitor pocketed no less than $200,000 from the enemy for his troubles.

Having failed to snare the Nobel Peace Prize by ignoring terrorism, clinton has apparently decided to intensify his America-bashing on foreign soil, the method employed by Jimmy Carter to great (if somewhat belated) effect.

(The Nobel committee, sufficiently mollified only after 24 years of the peanut president's America-bashing, awarded Carter his 1978 Peace Prize finally in 2002.)

Meanwhile, back in the Senate, the missus, the other half of the clinton construct, maintains her hawkish pose (although not without bird problems of another sort).

Yet another example of the clinton conflation ploy, (see SCHEMA PINOCCHIO: how the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor), this variant allows "clinton, the construct" to hold two mutually exclusive positions simultaneously, thereby enabling the missus to avoid in '08 the trap that repeatedly ensnared the ever 'nuanced' Kerry in '04.

Do you now understand how stupid the clintons think you are?

 

I M P E A C H M E N T
h e a r --c l i n t o n --l o s e --i t



by Mia T, 11.11.05

This legacy confab is in and of itself proof certain of clinton's deeply flawed character, and a demonstration in real time of the way in which the clinton years were about a legacy that was incidentally a presidency.

Madeleine Albright captured the essence of this dysfunctional presidency best when she explained why clinton couldn't go after bin Laden.

According to Richard Miniter, the Albright revelation occurred at the cabinet meeting that would decide the disposition of the USS Cole bombing by al Qaeda [that is to say, that would decide to do what it had always done when a "bimbo" was not spilling the beans on the clintons: Nothing]. Only Clarke wanted to retaliate militarily for this unambiguous act of war.

Albright explained that a [sham] Mideast accord would yield [if not peace for the principals, surely] a Nobel Peace Prize for clinton. Kill or capture bin Laden and clinton could kiss the 'accord' and the Peace Prize good-bye.

If clinton liberalism, smallness, cowardice, corruption, perfidy--and, to borrow a phrase from Andrew Cuomo, clinton cluelessness--played a part, it was, in the end, the Nobel Peace Prize that produced the puerile pertinacity that enabled the clintons to shrug off terrorism's global danger.

COMPLETE ARTICLE


C-SPAN asked noted presidential historians to rank the American presidents1 along the following ten dimensions: public persuasion, crisis leadership, economic management, moral authority, international relations, administrative skills, relations with congress, vision/setting an agenda, pursued equal justice for all, and performance within context of times.

bill clinton emerged as middling in most dimensions; he was surpassed in others by a settled mediocrity (Carter) and a putative failure (Nixon). In moral authority, bill clinton was rated dead last.2 He did fairly well in public persuasion, not a surprising finding given the volume of snake oil he managed to peddle during his putative presidency.

"It's NOT the economy, stupid!"

Clinton's best scores were on the economic management and pursued equal justice for all dimensions. However, both of these results are meaningful only insofar as they redound to the moral authority dimension: they are wholly based on clinton fraudulence, cooked books and black poses, respectively; and clinton's shameless Rosa Parks eulogy last week assured us that the insidious brand of clinton racism is alive and well during these tiptoe years of what the clintons hope will be their interregnum.

Note that although Brinkley doesn't place much importance on the economic management dimension--he argues that the economy variable is not durable over time--he fails to recognize that the evaluation of the clinton economy by the historians is erroneous to begin with.

Note also that C-SPAN historians found no evidence of clinton "greatness" irrespective of his moral-authority deficit, contrary to Douglas Brinkley's claim made at the clinton revisionist confab3.

(NOTE: My later research has revealed that Brinkley's qualified mention of clinton "greatness" was not a claim but rather a polite guest's white lie about an abject loser. Instead of taking the AP report at face value, one must carefully parse Brinkley's actual words and especially note the subjunctive construction.)

MIDDLING


Twenty presidents rank higher than bill clinton and 20 rank lower. But this placement assumes equal weight for each of the dimensions. And therein lies the flaw.

If 9/11 taught us anything, it is that presidential character and moral authority count, and count most.4 If the variables are properly weighted, bill clinton will always come out dead last.

That is, unless Americans are dumb enough to make the same mistake twice.

Mia T, 11.10.05
Historian massages clinton numbers, ego + legacy at revisionist confab
C-SPAN historians find no clinton "greatness" irrespective of moral-authority deficit

 

 

IT TAKES A CLINTON TO RAZE A COUNTRY
by Mia T, 11.14.05

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December 7, 1941+64

AN OPEN LETTER TO TIM ROBBINS, DAVID GEFFEN, CHRIS MATTHEWS, MAUREEN DOWD + JEANINE PIRRO

RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton



Dear Concerned Americans,

Hillary Clinton's revisionist tome notwithstanding, 'living history' begets a certain symmetry. It is in that light that I make this not-so-modest proposal on this day, exactly 64 years after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

The context of our concern today--regardless of political affiliation--is Iraq and The War on Terror, but the larger fear is that our democracy may not survive.

We have the requisite machines, power and know-how to defeat the enemy in Iraq and elsewhere, but do we have the will?

In particular, do we have the will to identify and defeat the enemy in our midst?

Answerable to no one, heir apparent in her own mind, self-serving in the extreme, Hillary Clinton incarnates this insidious new threat to our survival.

What we decide to do about Missus Clinton will tell us much about what awaits us in these perilous new times.

COMPLETE LETTER

December 7, 1941+64
Mia T
AN OPEN LETTER TO TIM ROBBINS, DAVID GEFFEN, CHRIS MATTHEWS, MAUREEN DOWD + JEANINE PIRRO
RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton


COPYRIGHT MIA T 2005




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1 posted on 12/18/2005 9:00:41 AM PST by Mia T
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To: jla

ping


2 posted on 12/18/2005 9:04:44 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
I heard Chris Matthews say it. I also think Chris immediately regretted let it slip out of his Demwit mouth.
3 posted on 12/18/2005 9:04:57 AM PST by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: jla; WorkingClassFilth; Gail Wynand; Brian Allen; Wolverine; Lonesome in Massachussets; IVote2; ...

ping


4 posted on 12/18/2005 9:05:03 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
I thought that my virtual obsession with him was well placed and I was full of regret that I didn't get him.

Bill Clinton

Clinton has the blood of over 3,000 Americans on his hands and chooses to lie again and again.

5 posted on 12/18/2005 9:05:40 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: hflynn

I actually don't think so. You can replay the clip (link above). IMO, it was premeditated. Notice how he doesn't let Fineman cut in during his trashing of the Times.


6 posted on 12/18/2005 9:08:29 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T

Chrissy must have been off his meds to let this slip out!


7 posted on 12/18/2005 9:11:03 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: ncountylee

bump.

All the clintons could think about were the polls and their legacy. They couldn't go after bin Laden because that would have angered the muslims and thereby kill their chances for a phony Mideast 'accord' and a Nobel.

I will have more to say about this....


8 posted on 12/18/2005 9:13:09 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T

Look forward to reading that.


9 posted on 12/18/2005 9:15:21 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: hflynn
'GREATEST GAMBLE SINCE ROOSEVELT BACKED BRITAIN BEFORE WWII'

Gamble? How about doing the right thing. Supporting the Brits instead of the Nazis. Tough choice there. Another demonstration of todays democrats having no moral compass.

10 posted on 12/18/2005 9:15:22 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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11 posted on 12/18/2005 9:18:28 AM PST by Kenny Bunkport
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To: Mia T

Someday, Mia, honest historians are going to look back at these times when they are able to have some perspective. They will wonder what in the hell our country was doing while the Clintons were destroying our national security. The real legacy is there, but it may not be known to all during our lifetimes.


12 posted on 12/18/2005 9:18:35 AM PST by doug from upland (Hasta la vista, Tookie)
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To: Mia T
My view on Clinton is he was a do nothing President.

As a conservative I believe still he is responsible for most of our country's problems today.

He did nothing for our defense (Hates the military). He did nothing for our court system (Filled it with left wing nut judges). And certainly did nothing in terms of leading our country (Spent his time following polls).

He lucked out. History will show just how weak he was. It will take some time, but his day will come!
13 posted on 12/18/2005 9:19:00 AM PST by Duke Wayne
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To: Rummyfan

Actually, Matthews as a D is in perpetual conflict; he has red-state sensibilities. Also, he was at the White House with Bush the night before the program. Bush charm likely loosened him up a bit. ;)


14 posted on 12/18/2005 9:19:57 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T

BTTT


15 posted on 12/18/2005 9:24:43 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Rummyfan
The 'Dims remind me of spoiled, pudgy teenagers who complain about their parents but are totally dependent on them. They need, and secretly love, the strong father-figure but can't show it.

My girl friend once told me, after my umteenth blowup with my teenage girls, "The more dependent your kids are on you the more they'll resent you."

16 posted on 12/18/2005 9:27:00 AM PST by DJtex (;)
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To: USNBandit

excellent point


17 posted on 12/18/2005 9:28:28 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Rummyfan
Chrissy must have been off his meds to let this slip out!

More like on them. Normally he is a raving lunatic.;)

18 posted on 12/18/2005 9:30:23 AM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Mia T

Occasionally Mathews common sense comes to bare. During the 2000 fiasco I thought he was fair to Bush and even harsh to the Democrats at times.


19 posted on 12/18/2005 9:35:18 AM PST by aft_lizard (What does G-d look like then if we evolved from nothing?See Genisis Ch 1:26-27)
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To: Mia T

The idea is interesting. I've wondered how the Iraqis will mark their decision of democracy, and whether there would be a statue of President Bush placed somewhere in that country.


20 posted on 12/18/2005 9:38:35 AM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
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