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The Pentagon Breaks the Islam Taboo--Islam is an ideological engine of war
Frontpagemagazine ^ | 12-14-05 | Paul Sperry

Posted on 12/14/2005 5:26:37 AM PST by SJackson

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To: SJackson

I don't remember the full quote, but didn't Ann Coulter say something to the effect that we need to invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them all to Christianity? The last time we failed to finish the job - with the Crusades - and it looks like this time we won't even start the job. The current situation in Australia should be a lesson for us.


21 posted on 12/14/2005 6:07:36 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: highlander_UW; All

The way to battle islamic terrorist is to stop refering to islam as a religion. Labeling it as a form of cult or a form of state, like communism, we will then have a better chance to defeat it.


22 posted on 12/14/2005 6:08:51 AM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: Aquinasfan
True, but democracy can serve this end. Democracy contradicts the caliphate. Hopefully the acceptance of democracy will habituate Mohammedans to disregarding other Mohammedan teachings.

That might happen in general, most certainly in individual cases and absolutely not in other cases, but it's quite a roll of the dice to anticipate the large scale move away from Islam and toward democracy.

What I see as more likely is in the short run there will be a government friendly enough and with enough stability that we can withdraw (at least mostly), but in the long run an Islamist party will win enough seats to eliminate the democracy...and they will do it even if the majority are happy with the democracy.

People try to point to Turkey as an example of a muslim democracy, but they seem to forget that the military has to step in from time to time, through out the Islamists and start the game over.

23 posted on 12/14/2005 6:09:03 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: SJackson
"Muhammad's behaviors today would be defined as radical," the defense document says, and Muslims today are commanded by their "militant" holy book to follow his example. It adds: Western leaders can no longer afford to overlook the "cult characteristics of Islam."

As radically murderous as Stalin, Hitler or Mao. 

Muhammad's Koran= Hitler's Mein Kampf= Mao Tse Tung's Little Red Book

24 posted on 12/14/2005 6:10:28 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: eastforker
The way to battle islamic terrorist is to stop refering to islam as a religion. Labeling it as a form of cult or a form of state, like communism, we will then have a better chance to defeat it.

While I understand that Islam is a cult, if we create a single huge basket and throw all muslims in that "cult" basket we are going to be making a bigger mess to start with. Islam is the problem, but not all muslims adhere to Islam in the same way. There are some muslims that the world could be at peace with (although the truth is, they are not actually practicing the Islam of the Quran, sunnah and hadith).

25 posted on 12/14/2005 6:11:50 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: SJackson

Welcome to the party pal.


26 posted on 12/14/2005 6:12:18 AM PST by MattinNJ (Allen/Pawlenty in 08-play the map.)
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To: G.Mason
read this
27 posted on 12/14/2005 6:17:51 AM PST by katya8
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To: G.Mason
read this
28 posted on 12/14/2005 6:20:15 AM PST by katya8
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To: Aquinasfan
This is either gross negligence or kowtowing to political correctness. Neither is a legitimate excuse for this dereliction of duty.

Damn right.

And given this recent, but long overdue, revelation, how do we insulate the nascent democracy in Iraq from Islam (if such a thing is even possible).

Better late than never...but there will be a heavy price to pay for being late.

29 posted on 12/14/2005 6:22:53 AM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: USF

Thx for the ping USF. Very interesting article.


30 posted on 12/14/2005 6:25:02 AM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: SJackson
1.6 Billion of the rascals and it's the fastest growing religion on the planet.



Look what's happening in Australia and they got less than 2% of the religion-of-peace-people.

Coming soon, to a neighborhood near you!
31 posted on 12/14/2005 6:26:33 AM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: SJackson
the Pentagon develops a new strategy to deal with the threat from Islamic terrorists through its little-known intelligence agency called the Counterintelligence Field Activity or CIFA, which staffs hundreds of investigators and analysts

I surely hope the Pentagon doesn't require "hundreds of investigators" to come to the sames conclusions that Robert Spencer, Bruce Thornton, Victor Davis Hanson, Paul Sperry, and Daniel Pipes present to us on a daily basis.

As Bruce Thornton (VDH's colleague) has said, "moderate Muslims" are the abberation, while jihadists are simply following the commands of the Koran and the Hadiths.

32 posted on 12/14/2005 6:26:41 AM PST by angkor
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To: highlander_UW

Political Correctness is a powerful deterrent to asking/doing things that are common sense. I'm sure that many in the military felt this way for a long time, but fear for their careers kept them from acting. I'm glad it's finally happening though; maybe now we can get serious about the REAL ENEMY!
Pray that the inevitable Leftist and Muslim "outrage" doesn't put an end to this!


33 posted on 12/14/2005 6:27:30 AM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY (( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!))
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To: SJackson

You can't hope to win a war until you figure out what you're fighting!


34 posted on 12/14/2005 6:28:22 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: SJackson
I'm sure they are not as ignorant to the situation as this suggests. It's all motivated to be politically correct at least until the public begins to catch on then it just becomes embarrassing.
35 posted on 12/14/2005 6:30:00 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: highlander_UW
Islam is the problem, but not all muslims adhere to Islam in the same way. There are some muslims that the world could be at peace with (although the truth is, they are not actually practicing the Islam of the Quran, sunnah and hadith).

Yes, and they are the apostates. The jihadists practice the true essence of the Koran and the Hadiths.

36 posted on 12/14/2005 6:30:37 AM PST by angkor
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To: highlander_UW
The problem is, the only way for democracy to flourish is to move people away from Islam...something that seems unlikely for our, or any, government to be able to do.

Anne Coulter had a three part strategy, articulated two days after her friend Barbara Olson flew into the Pentegon -- "Invade their countries. Kill their leaders. Convert their people to Christianity." There are now whole Kurish villages populated with Christian converts from Islam. And, there is the Turkish example, where a secular elite uses military force to keep Islam bottled up. (Image the USA run by the ACLU on steroids, with guns!)

37 posted on 12/14/2005 6:32:07 AM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: highlander_UW
While I understand that Islam is a cult, if we create a single huge basket and throw all muslims in that "cult" basket we are going to be making a bigger mess to start with. Islam is the problem, but not all muslims adhere to Islam in the same way.

Well, Mormons and JWs are cultists, kindly, productive, and wholesome, but still cultists.

38 posted on 12/14/2005 6:35:04 AM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: katya8
Thanks


It is difficult to fathom, exactly, what it is that occurs in the minds of people elected to "public" office.

For that matter, what happens to the people, after they elect these imbiciles, that they [the people] allow them to remain in office?


I know that hope springs eternal, but occasionally one must remove the rose colored glasses and think for one's self.





39 posted on 12/14/2005 6:38:07 AM PST by G.Mason (Others have died for my freedom; now this is my mark ... Marine Corporal Jeffrey Starr, KIA 04-30-05)
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To: SJackson

Islamist death cult.


40 posted on 12/14/2005 6:38:56 AM PST by onedoug
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