The Pentagon Breaks the Islam Taboo--Islam is an ideological engine of war

Frontpagemagazine ^ | 12-14-05 | Paul Sperry

[Gritty]

PC still infects the Pentagon, four years after jihadists hit the nation's military headquarters. "A lot of folks here have a very pedestrian understanding of Islam and the Islamic threat," a Pentagon intelligence analyst working on the project told me. "We're getting Islam 101, and we need Islam 404."

It didn't take us 4 years after Pearl harbor to figure out Japanese Imperialism or Nazism. Only a willfully blind, PC mindset can explain this immense dereliction of duty on the part of our leaders and analysts.

Thankfully, at least it's starting to be addressed.

My concern is PC mavens and subversive "civil rights" groups like CAIR, the ACLU and the vicious politicians in the Democrat Party ( and a few "RINOs, like McStain and Lindsay Graham) will murder this tender baby in the womb. They will go after it quickly with sharpened knives. One can already see the effective work they are doing destroying some unpopular underpinnings of this World War, illustrated by such monstrosities as the new "Torture Laws".

[Thombo2]

"I doubted our exit strategy of building a democracy in Iraq."Same thoughts here but the results so far have been encouraging.The key to a successful(longterm)democracy in Iraq will depend to a large degree on keeping the radical muslims out of power.Pretty tough task when one considers party lines are drawn along religous lines ie Sunni,Shiite,Shia.I'd estimate the possibility of a successful democracy in Iraq at about 50/50.

[DoughtyOne]

Now for the first time, a key Pentagon intelligence agency involved in homeland security is delving into Islam's holy texts to answer whether Islam is being radicalized by the terrorists or is already radical. Military brass want a better understanding of what's motivating the insurgents in Iraq and the terrorists around the globe, including those inside America who may be preparing to strike domestic military bases. The enemy appears indefatigable, even more active now than before 9/11.

And this is why I ask the question, "Is it wise to allow people from terrorist states, or even of the Muslim faith to immigrate to the U.S. while this situation remains fluid?"

It would seem prudent to me, to place a moratorium on that segment of our immigration for a period of time.

Undoubtedly, man of these people pose no threat. The problem is, the few in their midst that do. Those few can cost us dearly.

[nightdriver]

"Today we are confronted with a stateless threat that does not have at the strategic level targetable entities: no capitals, no economic base, no military formations or installations," states a new Pentagon briefing paper I've obtained.

No, but we don't need to have such an open-arms policy toward every crackpot subversive who wants to invade the U.S.

[USF]

Muslims pump out babies faster than bunnies, new converts are persuaded by violence and intimidation, and the punishment for leaving islam is death.

Lets forget their manipulation and exploitation of ethnic minorities and the jailhouse converts grievances against society as a whole, and add the fact that most islamic societies have low rates of use of contraception, and another factor thats often overlooked... One man may have four wives, and thus there are not enough of their own breeding factories to go around after they have locked down their own supply of females for their breeding purposes.

Not only does this produce to an underclass of sexually frustrated males in islamic nations who will be predisposed into falling for islamic sexual fantasies of 72 virgins, but also offers another benefit for the expansion of islam:

1. Using these left over unpaired males to convert their domestic non-muslim females and offering to elevate their low status of dhimmi to the privileged status of muslim. A pick up line that only muslim males can use.

2. Exporting these left over unpaired males into the darul harb, to take over the breeding capability of the kuffar by finding kuffar females (who are required to convert to islam when they marry) and using them to pump out more muslims behind enemy lines.

They perfected the use of the womb as part of their military industrial complex long ago.

Now, THAT's a pretty good formula for growth.

[7thson]

People are throwing various quotes from this piece around, so I will throw in this one -

The hardest part of formulating a strategic response to the threat is defining Islam as a political and military enemy. Once that psychological barrier has been crossed, defense sources tell me, the development of countermeasures -- such as educating the public about the militant nature of Islam and exploiting "critical vulnerabilities" or rifts within the Muslim faith and community -- can begin.

Why? I work at Main State in Washington, DC. The Harry S Truman Building. Recently, about a month ago, near all the elevators was a flyer about about a seminar - about understanding Islamic people and countries! I could not believe it! I could not imagine during WW II - or any other wars we have been involved in, including the Cold War - holding seminars in attempting to understand the enemy! I see all kinds of strange things over here. I walked by one office and on the couch was a throw pillow - UN blue with the UN symbol on it! I think we are in dangerous waters in the United States and it may take a major battle within our borders - against elected officials, lawyers, and judges - before it all shakes out.

[His Supreme Majesty]

Ann Coulter was right.

Her 3-prong strategy for addressing this menace is the only path to total and lasting victory.

Gee, maybe the Pentagon should have sent that group of analysts over to Borders Books after giving each of them the money to purchase a copy of The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam???

[reformedliberal]

I agree with you, but there are rays of hope. If you follow promed.com or other epidemiological sites, there is rampant polio and childhood disease, as well as the contagious diseases linked to lack of hygiene and crowded conditions, in the Islamic world.

The mullahs know full well the power of fertility; they fear that immunizations could contain birth control drugs, and so, they will not allow mass inoculations.

The religious and tribal customs render many women infertile. Because women are not valued, they die in childbirth in greater numbers than in other faiths. The males are so psychologically warped, that I would not be surprised to hear they are impotent to a large degree. I wonder about male fertility in areas with poor diet and poor medical care. Reading some of the jibes aimed at Muslim males by the few former Muslim feminists who speak out in the West, there is a lot of implication against their virility.

High birth rate is not always the same as high infant survival.

Yes, they slaughter non-Muslims wholesale, but many Muslims die in these battles, as well. By killing off the unbred males, given the other medical problems they face, they must be harming their ultimate fertility.

Every time there is a natural disaster in the Islamic world, Muslims die and more die in the aftermath, regardless of the help from the Western nations, because they live in inaccessible places and are mostly disorganized and fatalistic. Because of the totalitarian nature of Islam, they sit and wait to be told what to do and to be rescued by the Ummah.

I have read that, by conversion, it is Christianity that leads in growth. In China, in Africa, in the South Pacific, in the Caribbean, in Central America, Christianity grows by conversion. If the Muslims kill their *apostates*, they are again limiting their own population. There is no real forgiveness in Islam, except toward their own killers of women & infidels. Not a big attraction to those already Christianized.

I don't see that the world bends over for Islam. Yes, in the nations where PC has been successful, we have to overcome political caution and downright ignorance, but the young Australian working class, who have certainly been exposed to the full PC technique from birth, may well be the prevalent trend.

I heard the POTUS call out Islam in the referenced speech. IMO, the leaders have been forced to wait until Islam exposed itself, as well as until the left began to lose credibility.

I went to university over 40 years ago. At the U of Illinois, we had many, many Muslims in the engineering departments. They courted American Christian girls, but they were either married or engaged back home and upon graduation, dismissed these girls with:"You are like a dog to me." Yes, they may marry a Christian woman and force her to convert, but after five years, when they divorce them and try to take the children back to a Muslim country and then attempt to marry another Christian woman to repeat the process, not all succeed. I am not convinced from the few such women I have known or known about, that these kids remain Muslim, except, of course, in the minds of their fathers and their Muslim relatives.

Nothing has changed for them, but a lot has changed and is changing, for us. Neither am I complacent. However, our enemies are not all-powerful and the very source of their strength, the Koran and Muslim tradition, are also going to be their undoing.

[highlander_UW]

Same thoughts here but the results so far have been encouraging.The key to a successful(longterm)democracy in Iraq will depend to a large degree on keeping the radical muslims out of power.Pretty tough task when one considers party lines are drawn along religous lines ie Sunni,Shiite,Shia.I'd estimate the possibility of a successful democracy in Iraq at about 50/50.

50/50 doesn't sound like good odds...but it's better than I figured going in. Keeping the radicals out of power is the big problem in a democracy. It only takes one super majority to abolish all of the protections, controls and future elections and establish something along the lines of the farce of a democracy that is in Iran. But at this point I think there is a decent chance of establishing enough stability and peace that we will be able to disengage. Those chances go up the greater difficulty in holding power in Syria and Iran. I know some Iranians and that nation is a powder keg waiting to blow up under the Ayatollahs there.

[ASA Vet]

The figure for Thailand is bogus.

The real figures are: Buddhist 94.6%, Muslim 4.6%, Christian 0.7%, other 0.1% (2000 census)

[KDD]

bump for later

[crazycat]

Top post tks.

Good to see someone is at last lifting the veil. It'll take a long time, but we'll get there in the end.

[Thombo2]

I agree.I've been very impressed with the enthusiasm and determination of the Iraqi people and also very surprised that the people have gone out and voted in spite of the potential for terrorist attacks.(Note:Could you imagine going to vote(here in the US)and knowing in the back of your mind someone could pull up and detonate a car bomb outside or some guy standing in line at the poll had a couple pounds of C4 strapped to his body?)The key is keeping the radicals,islamists,Syria,and Iran out of the picture.

[highlander_UW]

I've been very impressed with the enthusiasm and determination of the Iraqi people and also very surprised that the people have gone out and voted in spite of the potential for terrorist attacks.

I agree, I have been very impressed with the courage of the Iraqi people to stand up under the threat of being murdered to take the opportunity to vote. I laugh at the Liberals who poo poo the Iraqi elections when they have a better turn out than we do in the US AND in the face of threats.

Did you see the video of the elderly Iraqi woman who was voting who said anyone who doesn't appreciate what the US has done and what George Bush has done can go to hell? That needs to be played as is on TV as a commercial so more of America can see it. Make Murtha watch it a few dozen times.

[USF]

Thanks for the reply. Re: the dynamics of their population growth, I agree there are many more forces at work, and was not intending to portray islamic expansion by ever increasing numbers as a given, but to warn of the tactics used by the enemy so others will have a better understanding of what we are dealing with.

If the Muslims kill their *apostates*, they are again limiting their own population.

One of the core areas I think we need to exploit more for our advantage which I don't see many use.

The salafis promote a return to pure "real" islam, and use promote islamic beliefs such as the prophecy of the 72 sects (one true islamic sect, vs 72 other islamic sects who have strayed by adopting practices that are "bidah") to underscore the need to stay true to real islam, as practiced and preached by mohamMAD, so eventually, even if they were to wipe out the 5 billion Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, agnostics, atheists etc and their future offspring, muslims will still be obliged to wage war with their own over who is the best or true muslim thus ensuring islam will promote eternal bloodshed and oppression for muslim and non-muslims alike.

On that basis alone, one could argue islam will always be doomed, even if it succeeds.

As you mentioned the very source of their strength, the Koran and Muslim tradition, are also going to be their undoing.

One only needs to go back and point islamic history out to muslims for them to realize nobody gets muslims killed, or kills muslims, better than their own true believers from the time of imam ali and imam an-nawawi to the ikhwan massacre of those they deem "mushrikun" and the present day persecution of Ahmadis, murdering of apostates, and political leaders.

Islam needs to be thoroughly exposed and thrown onto historys ash heap of discarded lies.

[sheik yerbouty]

To paraphrase: "It was the Saudis all along."

[reformedliberal]

One only needs to go back and point islamic history out to muslims for them to realize nobody gets muslims killed, or kills muslims, better than their own true believers from the time of imam ali and imam an-nawawi to the ikhwan massacre of those they deem "mushrikun" and the present day persecution of Ahmadis, murdering of apostates, and political leaders.

How does one fight against the ingrained fatalism in Islam? The women seem to *accept* their status, if only because there are no alternatives. Likewise, the few Muslims who publicly disavow Islamic pogroms against other Muslims deemed *bad* Muslims are, of course, marked for assassination along w/all of their families.

The only effective response that I can see is for the women and apostates to preemptively kill the purists.

What will it take for the non-Salafists to turn on them? What will it take for Muslims to either have a Reformation or to abandon Islam totally? Maybe some of this is already happening? It must be obvious to most Muslims that they have no safety from these oppressive brutes.

I think we need to quarantine them in their wretched hell holes until they have so decimated themselves, that we have very few left with whom to deal.

[taxed2death]

Well, at least we can finally get this religious war going ahead full steam instead of the sputtering mess it's been the last 4 years. Let's break out the neutron bombs.

[Fred Nerks]

"They've found that the terrorists for the most part are following a war-fighting doctrine articulated through Muhammad in the Quran, elaborated on in the hadiths, codified in Islamic or sharia law, and reinforced by recent interpretations or fatwahs."

Well, I'll be darned...it's tempting to say they could have learned all that by signing up to FR...but I'm convinced this isn't NEW news, they've known all that for a long time. I expected this 'change of attitude' as soon as Iraq was 'in the bag' so it does not surprise to read this NOW, on the day of voting in Iraq for the ratification of the Constitution.

I see this rather, not as an admittance of past stupidity, but as the Pentagon signalling 'we have rid ourselves of the threat from Saddam, now we are ready to start on the enemy at home.'

[USF]

There's no easy way around this, and I suspect no one solution, but a combination of tactics to wear down the enemy by constantly chipping away at it, stop its progress (especially in the west), and exploit it's divsions to our advantage and finally bring on either islams reformation or death. I really don't care which, and do not have a lot of faith in the former. We are forced into a position where we are left with the stark choice of making sure the islamic civil war runs its course to a desirable outcome or islam is annihilated by other means.

In non-islamic countries a campaign of education about islams core beliefs should be embarked upon. What percentage of our own population even know what dhimmitude or darul harb means? Robert Spencer had a few billboards up in L.A. recently to try and get peoples attention. We live in a society and an age where ideas and knowledge can be spread at the speed of light, and must use this to our advantage both at home and overseas by having local translations in developing nations and the emerging states of eastern Europe. With the net, we're only one click away from the truth and must never surrender it to the UN.

In islamic nations they fear exposure to western ideas and hegemony because they are well aware it undemines and erodes islam and its oppressive system based on lies and fear. We could learn much by following the islamic examples of using zakat to fund dawah in the west. Even our instititons of higher learning such as Harvard and Georgetown are being hijacked for their cause as we speak. Give the islamic masses more exposure to western ideas, buy into or manipulate their media and institutions of learning to flood them with the truth, but stop the islamic influx into the west at the same time. Force international organizations like the UN to do our bidding, not the OIC's, and to pound on the issues of rights for women and religious minorities in islamic nations to keep underming their vile theology on multiple levels. This world needs a global leader, not a consensus of the ignorant, corrupt, and the brainwashed. We have the power, but often lack the will or the courage, because we are held back by those at home and abroad who do not undertsand the objectives and long term strategy of the enemy.

IMHO, Sooner or later, no matter what we do, the road to islamic reformation or its ultimate demise will lead thru the hijaz (mecca and medina). It's ground zero for two of islams 5 pillars (there's a not-so-subtle hint in there somewhere). Salafi control of the holy sites legitamizes their message for the global ummah, and while they control it muslims will always be exposed to its indoctrination during their lifetime and relgious obligations. If/when the KSA implodes we better have a plan and be ready to back Hashemite armies to retake custodianship of the holy places and restore their rule of the hijaz because the alternative is not going to be pretty at all.