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I agree with you, but there are rays of hope. If you follow promed.com or other epidemiological sites, there is rampant polio and childhood disease, as well as the contagious diseases linked to lack of hygiene and crowded conditions, in the Islamic world.

The mullahs know full well the power of fertility; they fear that immunizations could contain birth control drugs, and so, they will not allow mass inoculations.

The religious and tribal customs render many women infertile. Because women are not valued, they die in childbirth in greater numbers than in other faiths. The males are so psychologically warped, that I would not be surprised to hear they are impotent to a large degree. I wonder about male fertility in areas with poor diet and poor medical care. Reading some of the jibes aimed at Muslim males by the few former Muslim feminists who speak out in the West, there is a lot of implication against their virility.

High birth rate is not always the same as high infant survival.

Yes, they slaughter non-Muslims wholesale, but many Muslims die in these battles, as well. By killing off the unbred males, given the other medical problems they face, they must be harming their ultimate fertility.

Every time there is a natural disaster in the Islamic world, Muslims die and more die in the aftermath, regardless of the help from the Western nations, because they live in inaccessible places and are mostly disorganized and fatalistic. Because of the totalitarian nature of Islam, they sit and wait to be told what to do and to be rescued by the Ummah.

I have read that, by conversion, it is Christianity that leads in growth. In China, in Africa, in the South Pacific, in the Caribbean, in Central America, Christianity grows by conversion. If the Muslims kill their *apostates*, they are again limiting their own population. There is no real forgiveness in Islam, except toward their own killers of women & infidels. Not a big attraction to those already Christianized.

I don't see that the world bends over for Islam. Yes, in the nations where PC has been successful, we have to overcome political caution and downright ignorance, but the young Australian working class, who have certainly been exposed to the full PC technique from birth, may well be the prevalent trend.

I heard the POTUS call out Islam in the referenced speech. IMO, the leaders have been forced to wait until Islam exposed itself, as well as until the left began to lose credibility.

I went to university over 40 years ago. At the U of Illinois, we had many, many Muslims in the engineering departments. They courted American Christian girls, but they were either married or engaged back home and upon graduation, dismissed these girls with:"You are like a dog to me." Yes, they may marry a Christian woman and force her to convert, but after five years, when they divorce them and try to take the children back to a Muslim country and then attempt to marry another Christian woman to repeat the process, not all succeed. I am not convinced from the few such women I have known or known about, that these kids remain Muslim, except, of course, in the minds of their fathers and their Muslim relatives.

Nothing has changed for them, but a lot has changed and is changing, for us. Neither am I complacent. However, our enemies are not all-powerful and the very source of their strength, the Koran and Muslim tradition, are also going to be their undoing.

Thanks for the reply. Re: the dynamics of their population growth, I agree there are many more forces at work, and was not intending to portray islamic expansion by ever increasing numbers as a given, but to warn of the tactics used by the enemy so others will have a better understanding of what we are dealing with.

If the Muslims kill their *apostates*, they are again limiting their own population.

One of the core areas I think we need to exploit more for our advantage which I don't see many use.

The salafis promote a return to pure "real" islam, and use promote islamic beliefs such as the prophecy of the 72 sects (one true islamic sect, vs 72 other islamic sects who have strayed by adopting practices that are "bidah") to underscore the need to stay true to real islam, as practiced and preached by mohamMAD, so eventually, even if they were to wipe out the 5 billion Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, agnostics, atheists etc and their future offspring, muslims will still be obliged to wage war with their own over who is the best or true muslim thus ensuring islam will promote eternal bloodshed and oppression for muslim and non-muslims alike.

On that basis alone, one could argue islam will always be doomed, even if it succeeds.

As you mentioned the very source of their strength, the Koran and Muslim tradition, are also going to be their undoing.

One only needs to go back and point islamic history out to muslims for them to realize nobody gets muslims killed, or kills muslims, better than their own true believers from the time of imam ali and imam an-nawawi to the ikhwan massacre of those they deem "mushrikun" and the present day persecution of Ahmadis, murdering of apostates, and political leaders.

Islam needs to be thoroughly exposed and thrown onto historys ash heap of discarded lies.