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Oldest Maya Mural Uncovered in Guatemala
AP on Yahoo ^ | 12/13/05 | Randolph E. Schmid - ap

Posted on 12/13/2005 12:05:10 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Archaeologist William Saturno said Tuesday he was awe-struck when he uncovered a Maya mural not seen for nearly two millennia. Discovered at the San Bartolo site in Guatemala, the mural covers the west wall of a room attached to a pyramid, Saturno said at a briefing.

In brilliant color, the mural tells the Maya story of creation, he said. It was painted about 100 B.C., but later covered when the room was filled in.

"It could have been painted yesterday," Saturno said in a briefing organized by the National Geographic Society, which supported his work and will detail the finding in the January issue of its magazine.

Saturno, of the University of New Hampshire, first reported discovery of the site in 2002 when he stopped to rest in the jungle, taking shelter in an old trench that turned out to be part of the ancient room.

Since then the west and north walls have been uncovered. The room's other walls had been demolished and used for fill, he said. The west wall was the centerpiece of the room, Saturno said.

The mural includes four deities, which are variations of the same figure, the son of the corn god.

As Saturno explained it: The first deity stands in the water and offers a fish, establishing the watery underworld. The second stands on the ground and sacrifices a deer, establishing the land. The third floats in the air, offering a turkey, establishing the sky. The fourth stands in a field of flowers, the food of gods, establishing paradise.

Another section shows the corn god crowning himself king upon a wooden scaffold, and the final section shows a historic coronation of a Maya king.

Some of the writing can be understood, Saturno said, but much of it is so old it is hard to decipher.

Nearby, archaeologists led by Guatemalan Monica Pellecer Alecio found the oldest known Maya royal burial, from around 150 B.C. Excavating beneath a small pyramid, that team found a burial complex that included ceramic vessels and the bones of a man, with a jade plaque — the symbol of Maya royalty — on his chest.

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To: SteveMcKing

MOI?....


21 posted on 12/13/2005 12:37:03 PM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him)
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son of the corn god

22 posted on 12/13/2005 12:37:32 PM PST by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: evets

The Corn God...


23 posted on 12/13/2005 12:39:40 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: evets
son of the corn god

Lover of corn hole...

24 posted on 12/13/2005 12:40:47 PM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: evets

Kerry was the king of bad photo ops. I remember this shot, it looked like one of his handlers said "hurry hold these out the window and shake them at the crowd."


25 posted on 12/13/2005 12:41:26 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

"the corn god crowning himself king"
Cornholio?


26 posted on 12/13/2005 12:44:23 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Mazola knows all. Sees all.


27 posted on 12/13/2005 12:58:07 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: LongElegantLegs
Maya rulers figured prominently in many religious rituals and often were required to practice bloodletting, such as using sculpted bone or jade instruments to perforate their penises, or drawing thorn-studded ropes through their tongues.

It sounds as if they would fit in on any Ivy League campus.

The Classical Mayans may not have been as bloodthirsty as the Aztecs (fortunately, few are); but I believe that the Mayan practiced human sacrifice. Do a Google search on "Mayan human sacrifice." (One of the web pages is found at //www.wsu.edu:8080/~dee/CIVAMRCA/MAYAS.HTM.)

28 posted on 12/13/2005 1:13:58 PM PST by Logophile
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To: frgoff
It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Winston Churchill was a creationist?

29 posted on 12/13/2005 1:26:18 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

fun-ny!!!!


30 posted on 12/13/2005 1:33:11 PM PST by Muzzle_em ("Get busy LIVING or get busy dying")
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To: edcoil

"Correct me if I am wrong but the Maya were devil worshipers in a society that killed their own children in sacrifice to their evil gods. Correct?"




Devil worshippers? I don't know about that. The Devil is a construct of Christianity. I don't think they had heard of it, to tell you the truth.

They did have their own religion, though, as do virtually all cultures in history. Human beings seem to have a need to create deities to worship.


31 posted on 12/13/2005 1:40:18 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: ladtx

"I'm guessing the painting came with footnotes."

You are, huh? The Maya culture, including its religious beliefs, is quite well understood. We've been studying it for decades, and the culture left plenty of stuff to study, including a written language, which has been deciphered.

You might do a little looking around on the web. It's amazing what you can find.


32 posted on 12/13/2005 1:41:58 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: ladtx

The sacred scripture of the Maya is called the "Popol Vuh."

It's been translated into English, by the way. You might want to read the Creation story from it. It starts out in pretty much the same way as Genesis, really, as do most creation myths.

You can read that part of it, or the entire scripture, here:

http://www.crystalinks.com/popolvuh.html


33 posted on 12/13/2005 1:49:20 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
You might do a little looking around on the web.
You might want to read the Creation story from it.

Or - I might not.

34 posted on 12/13/2005 1:54:53 PM PST by ladtx ("It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it." -- -- General Douglas MacArthur)
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To: ladtx

"Or - I might not."

Well, that would be up to you, of course. I've found that learning about things is a useful way to spend time. Perhaps learning isn't a priority for you. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.


35 posted on 12/13/2005 1:57:46 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: edcoil

Devil worshipers? Hardly. One of their gods was actually sort of Christ-like. They were more like nature worshipers. The Maya usually sacrificed their enemies, whom they captured in wars. There is some evidence of occasional child and female sacrifice, for instance remains found in the well at Chichen Itza, but it is relatively rare. Usually those sacrificed were adult male warriors. See murals at Bonampak.


36 posted on 12/13/2005 2:47:45 PM PST by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

There was a program on Discovery or some channel about child sacrifice of the Maya up in some caves.


37 posted on 12/13/2005 3:29:11 PM PST by wildbill
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To: NormsRevenge

That is really something. The colors are amazing.


38 posted on 12/13/2005 5:28:32 PM PST by Dustbunny (Main Stream Media -- Making 'Max Headroom' a reality.)
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To: frgoff
It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

I thought that Abe Lincoln said that. I have a magnet that has the statement on it.

39 posted on 12/13/2005 5:31:16 PM PST by Dustbunny (Main Stream Media -- Making 'Max Headroom' a reality.)
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To: frgoff
It is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Could also have been Mark Twain or Confucius. Never mind, it has been around a long time.

40 posted on 12/13/2005 5:36:43 PM PST by Dustbunny (Main Stream Media -- Making 'Max Headroom' a reality.)
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