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To: commish

1. It should be hard for our government to put a man to death.

2. It should be a sad day that we had to put a man to death, not a time to celebrate.


10 posted on 12/12/2005 10:48:50 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa
1. It should be hard for our government to put a man to death.

2. It should be a sad day that we had to put a man to death, not a time to celebrate.

Yes, it should be but it ISN'T in this case!

17 posted on 12/12/2005 10:50:37 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: Raycpa
It should be hard for our government to put a man to death.

No, after due process, the government has the duty to carry out the sentence decided by a jury. It should be done quickly. 25 years is way beyond due process.

It should be a sad day that we had to put a man to death, not a time to celebrate.

Agreed. But far more sad for the four victims Tookie blew shotgun holes in.

22 posted on 12/12/2005 10:51:19 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: Raycpa

The tooker ain't a man.
That subhuman gave up manhood when he pulled the trigger and laughed about the sounds his victim made while dying.

He deserves to FRY in an electric chair imho.


25 posted on 12/12/2005 10:52:01 AM PST by Senormechanico
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To: Raycpa

Agreed. As a Catholic I do not support thre death penalty. The position of the Holy CHurch is clear on this. Even for an animal such as this. Put him on a chain gang and let him rot.


28 posted on 12/12/2005 10:52:42 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: Raycpa
" It should be a sad day that we had to put a man to death, not a time to celebrate."

The only sadness I will feel, if he is indeed executed, is the fact that he will die a peacefule death with a needle, instead of what this animal truly deserves, the electric chair or gas chamber.
36 posted on 12/12/2005 10:53:37 AM PST by GunnyHartman (Allah is allah outta virgins.)
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To: Raycpa

I am against the death penalty but I am for due process and upholding the rule of law as written rather than adjudicated.

I will point out that it already is difficult for the government to put someone to death. It takes 10 years and the case goes into automatic appeal. This man has failed all appeals.


39 posted on 12/12/2005 10:53:51 AM PST by saveliberty (Feed? What feed?)
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To: Raycpa
1. It should be hard for our government to put a man to death.

Agreed!

2. It should be a sad day that we had to put a man to death, not a time to celebrate.

Depends on what crime the man (or woman) has been found guilty of committing.
58 posted on 12/12/2005 10:56:59 AM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: Raycpa

"It should be hard for our government to put a man to death."

No it shouldn't. The gov't doesnt order people to death, the people do. It is the people's interest that maked the death penalty legal. It is a jury that requests the death penalty.

It should be hard for the government to overturn the people's wishes, not the other way around.


118 posted on 12/12/2005 11:04:34 AM PST by GasBagTeddy
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To: Raycpa

I don't think anyone is celebrating. I think you are just picking up on the anticipation of another travesty of justice being served up from our Californian countrymen.


143 posted on 12/12/2005 11:07:01 AM PST by willyd (No nation has ever taxed its citizens into prosperity)
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To: Raycpa

Romans 13:2-4

"Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil."

Whoever resists his local government, resists the plan of God! Whenever you meet a policeman, you shouldn't fear him (if you are a law-abiding citizen), but rather enjoy the sense of security that he is there to protect you. But, if you are a lawbreaker, you should feel terror, because God has ordained that he bring you to justice. We've lost that! Our young people have lost all respect for authority. Criminals know that statistics show that 70% of them can get out of jail within eight months of their conviction, so they have no fear of the authorities. The only thing that holds the fabric of society together, is a healthy fear and respect for the law - human government. Go back now to Genesis 9. As we see in verses 5 and 6, human government was established to maintain law and order, to protect the lives of the citizens; and in order to deter crime - murder in particular - God instituted capital punishment.

Any nation that practiced capital punishment in the past had a relatively low crime rate until they abolished it. One of the most visible examples of this is the nation of France. Until sometime in the 1970's, France still used the guillotine to execute murderers. They had so few murders in France each year that you could practically number them on one hand, But, … "society" said, "that's barbaric, it's a holdover from the dark ages," and so capital punishment there was abolished. Immediately, their murder rate skyrocketed like that of other nations without capital punishment. I am convinced that capital punishment is a legitimate deterrent to murder and major crime. We see so clearly in Genesis 9, what the Word of God says in this regard. The Word is true! I make no apology for it.

I looked it up on the internet about Capital punishment..It does not say this man should get away with his crimes..To me it says if he doesn't go by what the law says then he can be exicuted..

That said I really think this man should be fried to a crisp..He is a very bad person and we would be much safer with him gone..if riots start then the national guard should be called out and who ever breaks the law should be shot..


204 posted on 12/12/2005 11:15:57 AM PST by Beth528
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To: Raycpa
"2. It should be a sad day that we had to put a man to death, not a time to celebrate."

I agree. I don't really understand taking joy in this. Especially as a Christian, I view this as a solemn occasion.
319 posted on 12/12/2005 11:41:04 AM PST by gondramB (Rightful liberty is unobstructed action within limits of the equal rights of others.)
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To: Raycpa

Bullsh-t, that is a load they (CA)have killed 11 since 72 and tens of thousands have died because of lax laws - swift and sure is the cure. Swift means = guilty - walked them into the yard fire a bullet in the head and throw them out in the trash. Sweet and simple - period - I will live with the error factor.


343 posted on 12/12/2005 11:44:37 AM PST by kentj
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To: Raycpa
It should be a sad day that we had to put a man to death, not a time to celebrate.

The execution should be public, and they should sell souvenirs.

Afterward, we could have a nice party.

400 posted on 12/12/2005 11:56:14 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Raycpa
1. It should be hard for our government to put a man to death.

Exhibit A. A clear-cut case of multiple counts of brutal execution-style murder with a shotgun at point blank range, with victims slowly dying, and the murderer mocks the noise they make, laughing at their deaths.
Exhibit B. 27 years later, this low-life cretin of a murderer is FINALLY due to have his capital punishment carried out.

I'd say it is pretty damn hard for the government to put a man to death.

2. It should be a sad day that we had to put a man to death, not a time to celebrate.

It is sad that we had to put a man to death, but the families of his victims have endured 27 years of sad days waiting to see justice carried out.

401 posted on 12/12/2005 11:56:17 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Raycpa

---1. It should be hard for our government to put a man to death.

2. It should be a sad day that we had to put a man to death, not a time to celebrate.---

It shouldn't be that hard and it isn't that sad.


507 posted on 12/12/2005 12:16:14 PM PST by claudiustg (Go Bush! Go Sharon!)
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To: Raycpa

"It should be hard for our government to put a man to death. "

It should be hard for one person to kill another...let alone 4 people!

As founder of the Crips gang, Tookie Williams is also responsible for the lives that have been lost when wars broke out between the Crips and the Bloods. How would you like to live in a neighborhood where shootouts are frequent, where innocent children are killed by stray bullets?


739 posted on 12/12/2005 12:42:40 PM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Raycpa

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1. It should be hard for our government to put a man to death.

2. It should be a sad day that we had to put a man to death, not a time to celebrate.
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You are absolutely right. But the array of left-wing self-interest groups who are using Williams as a pawn in their war against American culture, and care not one damn about him in reality, have pushed this event beyond the level of a single human being, or his innocent victims.


1,065 posted on 12/12/2005 3:11:17 PM PST by noblejones (Ben Stein for President, 2008.)
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To: Raycpa

"1. It should be hard for our government to put a man to death."

For a man it should. But this is a mutant we're talking of.

"2. It should be a sad day that we had to put a man to death, not a time to celebrate.

For the reason given above, this is a great time to celebrate, and I will.

HASTA LA VISTA, BABY !!!!!


1,086 posted on 12/12/2005 4:12:33 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: Raycpa

I will celebrate. The ratio of good men to evil men will be slightly improved.


1,091 posted on 12/12/2005 4:28:09 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Raycpa
1. It should be hard for our government to put a man to death.

It seems harder to carry out the sentence that to sentence him.

2. It should be a sad day that we had to put a man to death, not a time to celebrate.

I would rather see him making gravel and eating bugs until he dies. Nothing to read and no book writing either. No AC or heat and no letters to or from your brothers on the outside. Make the essentially dead to the world.

As you see I do not agree with the death penalty but since it is the LAW I think that it should be carried out to the letter. In this case and all CA death penalty cases it should have been done years ago. If we are going to execute these guys lets give them one appeal to a high court unless new evidence is found that would change the case. If the appeal fails then the convicted gets it within a month.

1,152 posted on 12/12/2005 6:51:19 PM PST by fishntex
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