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To: Raycpa

Romans 13:2-4

"Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil."

Whoever resists his local government, resists the plan of God! Whenever you meet a policeman, you shouldn't fear him (if you are a law-abiding citizen), but rather enjoy the sense of security that he is there to protect you. But, if you are a lawbreaker, you should feel terror, because God has ordained that he bring you to justice. We've lost that! Our young people have lost all respect for authority. Criminals know that statistics show that 70% of them can get out of jail within eight months of their conviction, so they have no fear of the authorities. The only thing that holds the fabric of society together, is a healthy fear and respect for the law - human government. Go back now to Genesis 9. As we see in verses 5 and 6, human government was established to maintain law and order, to protect the lives of the citizens; and in order to deter crime - murder in particular - God instituted capital punishment.

Any nation that practiced capital punishment in the past had a relatively low crime rate until they abolished it. One of the most visible examples of this is the nation of France. Until sometime in the 1970's, France still used the guillotine to execute murderers. They had so few murders in France each year that you could practically number them on one hand, But, … "society" said, "that's barbaric, it's a holdover from the dark ages," and so capital punishment there was abolished. Immediately, their murder rate skyrocketed like that of other nations without capital punishment. I am convinced that capital punishment is a legitimate deterrent to murder and major crime. We see so clearly in Genesis 9, what the Word of God says in this regard. The Word is true! I make no apology for it.

I looked it up on the internet about Capital punishment..It does not say this man should get away with his crimes..To me it says if he doesn't go by what the law says then he can be exicuted..

That said I really think this man should be fried to a crisp..He is a very bad person and we would be much safer with him gone..if riots start then the national guard should be called out and who ever breaks the law should be shot..


204 posted on 12/12/2005 11:15:57 AM PST by Beth528
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To: Beth528

Of course using this logic one could argue that the Framers resisted the plan of God by standing up to the British. Romans 13:1 alludes to 'powers that are ordained by God' not worldly rulers. Unless of course you are advocating the old British ideal that rulers have a divine right to rule. You do know the Framers rejected that principle don't you?


249 posted on 12/12/2005 11:26:58 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Beth528

Jesus taught individuals to forgive... he didn't preach that people shouldn't be held responsible for the bad things they do. To argue that since Jesus preached forgiveness that no one who says they are sorry should be punished is complete nonsense and would lead to anarchy.

here's an example:

if my child lies to me... I will forgive them because I love them... but they are still gonna be grounded for a week.


276 posted on 12/12/2005 11:31:50 AM PST by conservative physics
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To: Beth528

BEth, part of the process of our death penalty is for the governor to provide clemency when he sees fit. That is the same government tha Paul asks us to submit to.

Why should the clemency process be subject to mob rule?


545 posted on 12/12/2005 12:24:53 PM PST by Raycpa
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