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(Bush Speech Live Thread) Bush to compare Iraqis to America's founders
CNN ^ | 12/12/05 | Unknown

Posted on 12/12/2005 6:09:11 AM PST by Coop

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush is using a visit to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, birthplace of the U.S. Constitution, as a reminder before the Iraqi elections that the path to American democracy was not always easy either.

Pennsylvania also is the home state of a leading Iraq war critic, Democratic Rep. John Murtha, who planned to speak on Bush's heels and repeat his call to bring the troops home from a fight he says has become too violent and out of control...

Iraqis are preparing to vote under tight security to elect a 275-member parliament that will run the country for the next four years. The election will be the first under the new constitution ratified in an October 15 referendum and will complete the steps toward democratization following the ouster of Saddam Hussein's government.

Monday's Iraq speech is Bush's third, part of a campaign to win support for the mission, with most Americans saying in polls that they disapprove of his handling of the war. The speech is scheduled for 11:15 a.m. ET.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush43; elections; foundingfathers; gnfi; iraq; iraqielection; iraqspeech; terrorism
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To: Bahbah

Keep Talking Moonbat Murtha!


341 posted on 12/12/2005 10:31:50 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Mo1

I think he's talking out his azz.

We are no longer liberators, we are occupiers.

Small army, small army.....

watch....next for the dems......will be a call for a draft.


342 posted on 12/12/2005 10:32:12 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: Mo1

FNC cut him off

I WISH they wouldn't do that


343 posted on 12/12/2005 10:32:49 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Mo1

He's nuts I tell ya!


344 posted on 12/12/2005 10:33:29 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Mo1

ummmm, well, I guess none of the media felt this was important enough to air?


345 posted on 12/12/2005 10:33:53 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: Justanobody

He is calling General Casey a fool?


346 posted on 12/12/2005 10:34:01 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Kimberly GG

MSNBC still has it

He says we are short radios


347 posted on 12/12/2005 10:34:34 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Kimberly GG
....next for the dems......will be a call for a draft.

They already did that before the '04 election. They did not even vote for it. Idiots....

348 posted on 12/12/2005 10:34:47 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Mo1

Dang, I turned off FNC - off to pMSNBC


349 posted on 12/12/2005 10:35:39 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Mo1

shoot, I don't have msnbc....I'll rely on you all!


350 posted on 12/12/2005 10:35:46 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: Justanobody

Murtha says we already lost .. we lost the hearts & minds of Iraqis and at home

DANG ... MSNBC cut him off


351 posted on 12/12/2005 10:36:09 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Justanobody

LOL MSNBC just cut him off. Nothing on CNN either. He is SOOOO irrelevant.


352 posted on 12/12/2005 10:36:55 AM PST by Lovergirl (Chicago native living in Southern Indiana.)
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To: Mo1
Murtha came awfully close to calling for a draft, didn't he? Said that in every other war we "ramped up" the army with a draft, and in this one we didn't. Complaining that the army is as small as it was in 1940. Again with the talk about the army being broken.

What a piece of work this guy is!

353 posted on 12/12/2005 10:37:07 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Mo1

Yes, by the time I got in on - it was over. Did he honestly have the unmitigated gall to call Gen. Casey a fool???


354 posted on 12/12/2005 10:37:35 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Miss Marple
Murtha came awfully close to calling for a draft, didn't he?

Yep .. he kept saying how we haven't met our goals .. something like only reached 84% of the goal

355 posted on 12/12/2005 10:38:47 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Miss Marple

He is unbelievable Miss Marple!!


356 posted on 12/12/2005 10:38:57 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! WBB lives on. Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Justanobody

....next for the dems......will be a call for a draft.

"They already did that before the '04 election. They did not even vote for it. Idiots...."

I remember.....that was charlie Rangel.....but I keep thinking that they may get so fed up with not having a timetable that they will use Murtha's 'expertise' about the military, to call for a draft.


357 posted on 12/12/2005 10:39:59 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: Fishtalk

You are assuming the WMD was his only argument. It was not. He is simply stating that there were ample reasons to depose the "Baghdad Butcher" and WMD was but one of them.


358 posted on 12/12/2005 10:40:00 AM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Kimberly GG

BBC poll is optimistic:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1538613/posts

"The BBC News website's World Affairs correspondent, Paul Reynolds, says the survey shows a degree of optimism at variance with the usual depiction of the country as one in total chaos.
The findings are more in line with the kind of arguments currently being deployed by US President George W Bush, he says."


359 posted on 12/12/2005 10:40:03 AM PST by 1066AD
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To: Justanobody
Did he honestly have the unmitigated gall to call Gen. Casey a fool???

I'm not sure .. he did say Casey .. though I'm not sure if he meant General

He was talking about money that would still be needed for Iraq

360 posted on 12/12/2005 10:40:07 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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