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House Conservatives Want End to Birthright Citizenship
Human Events ^ | 12/9/05 | Robert B. Bluey

Posted on 12/09/2005 11:22:39 AM PST by Jean S

House conservatives today announced plans to amend a Republican-sponsored immigration reform bill with language calling for the construction of a 2,000-mile fence along the U.S.-Mexico border and a provision that would deny citizenship to children born in the U.S. whose parents aren’t citizens.

The legislation, sponsored by House Judiciary Chairman James Sensenbrenner (R.-Wis.), is expected to be voted on by the full House as early as next week. Sensenbrenner has worked closely with the White House to craft the bill (H.R. 4437) -- the reason conservatives cited for the exclusion of key enforcement tools.

Rep. Tom Tancredo (R.-Colo.) organized Thursday’s press conference featuring about 20 other conservative Republicans. Each complained about a particular area they want to see addressed (see full list below).

Among those issues likely to be the center of debate next week: the lack of language authorizing a physical structure along the border and the exclusion of a so-called “anchor baby” provision undoing birthright citizenship.

The House conservatives said they would attempt to attach two bills previously introduced to Sensenbrenner’s legislation. House Armed Services Chairman Duncan Hunter (R.-Calif.) is sponsoring the TRUE Enforcement and Border Security Act (H.R. 4313), which authorized the fence construction, and Rep. Nathan Deal (R.-Ga.) introduced the Citizenship Reform Act (H.R. 698), which denies birthright citizenship.

Responding to Sensenbrenner’s bill, Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R.-Ariz.) said, “Both the timing and the thin patchwork context of this proposed House bill reinforced my concern that Washington continues to view illegal immigration as a political problem to be managed, rather than an invasion to be stopped.”

Conservatives flatly rejected any compromise with the Senate that would include a guest-worker or amnesty proposal. During a House Judiciary Committee meeting today, Republicans rejected a Democrat-sponsored amendment that would have attached a guest-worker proposal to Sensenbrenner’s bill.

Tancredo, leader of the 92-member House Immigration Reform Caucus, wouldn’t commit to any specific plan of action regarding amendments. His spokesman said no vote count had been done on any of the potential amendments, adding that the first priority is to simply convince GOP leaders to allow votes on amendments to the bill.

The full list of concerns, released by Tancredo’s office, is printed below.

Fixing our Broken Borders:

Enforcing the Law throughout our Country:
Stopping Businesses from Hiring Illegals:
Reducing the Incentive to Come Illegally:
Disentangling Foreign Policy from Immigration:
Restoring the Meaning of Citizenship:
Reforming Legal Immigration:


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; anchorbabies; birthright; borderslanguage; citizenship; congress; culture; deport; deportdeport; deportdeportdeport; house; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; tancredo
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To: mallardx
Yup - the Anchor Baby syndrome is a huge loophole in illegal immigration.

Really, it's not.

There's no legal problem with deporting the illegal alien parents of a so-called "anchor baby".

They have a choice: leave the kid here under adoption, and wait until the U.S. citizen infant is 21 to sponsor you for a U.S. visa (although he/she will not at that point be your legal "child").

Or be deported and take the "U.S. citizen" infant with you back to Mexico/Honduras/Nicaragua. In 21 years he/she can perhaps sponsor you for a visa (assuming he/she can produce an affidavit of financial support, e.g., $28,000 income for tha last three years).

21 posted on 12/09/2005 11:43:01 AM PST by angkor
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To: JeanS

This is great if they can pull it off.......their efforts also have to include a thorough investigation of welfare fraud with these illegals using multiple ID's to obtain benefits.


22 posted on 12/09/2005 11:45:25 AM PST by american spirit (Can you handle the truth? - www.rbnlive.com ( 4-6 CST M-F)) / click "listen live")
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To: seowulf

"Are they talking Constitutional amendment? "


Sounds it would need to be.


23 posted on 12/09/2005 11:45:57 AM PST by gondramB ( We don't get no government loan and no one sends a check from home-we just do what what we wanna)
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To: JeanS

About bloody time.


24 posted on 12/09/2005 11:46:27 AM PST by lilylangtree
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To: seowulf
Does and subject to the jurisdiction thereof cover it?
25 posted on 12/09/2005 11:46:57 AM PST by craig_eddy
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To: JeanS

clap clap clap


26 posted on 12/09/2005 11:47:02 AM PST by Buffettfan
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To: gondramB

Apparently so. Kilntoon did it and got away with it.........


27 posted on 12/09/2005 11:47:45 AM PST by Red Badger (Dan rather didn't say "Courage", he said "Couric"..................)
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To: JeanS

Tancredo's bill is a HUGE step in the right direction. It needs to specify that the federal courts have no jurisdiction over it, per Article III Section 2 of our federal Constitution.

And, BTW, a proper reading of the 14th Amendment would make this bill redundant. The 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution confers citizenship upon “All person born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, …” This second condition is universally overlooked in discussions about illegal immigration and newborns. Illegal immigrants are - by definition - have not subjected themselves to the jurisdiction of our laws. The babies were brought here illegally, not subject to our laws. They are not, therefore, U.S. citizens.

But since our legislature and courts are out to lunch so often, let's encourage our congressmen to support Tancerdo's bill.


28 posted on 12/09/2005 11:49:29 AM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (In all things give thanks, for this is the will of God for you in Christ Jesus.)
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To: ncountylee
I had heard that the proposal was that the baby was a citizen but had to return to origin of the mother and when they were eighteen they could come back. I think thats not a bad proposal (maybe).
29 posted on 12/09/2005 11:50:13 AM PST by svcw
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To: seowulf
Are they talking Constitutional amendment?

Today's politicians don't even pretend to follow the Constitution anymore. Campaign Finance and just about every federal drug law are examples of that as well as most entitlement programs. And the really sad part is even the so called Conservative judges and justices uphold a lot of it.

30 posted on 12/09/2005 11:51:05 AM PST by NEPA (Repeal the 17th)
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To: JeanS

Make it 1776.


31 posted on 12/09/2005 11:51:56 AM PST by FFIGHTER (Character Matters!)
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To: JeanS
Stopping Businesses from Hiring Illegals: Make employment verification mandatory Eliminate the business tax write-off for illegal workers Increase the penalty for employers who hire illegal aliens Make businesses who hire illegal aliens ineligible for future guest workers

Reducing the Incentive to Come Illegally: Disallow all federal funding from going to states that offer in-state tuition to illegal aliens Disallow the matricula consular card as a legal form of identification Reform the use of ITINs Eliminate social security totalization for illegal aliens

The above are good measures that would .

Leave the birthright citizenship out of it. Any problems arising from that are a symptom of a broken system, not a contributing factor. Don't attack the symptoms, don't go after newborn babies who have done nothing wrong, solve the actual problem.

32 posted on 12/09/2005 11:54:16 AM PST by JohnnyZ (Veterans' Day. Enough said.)
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Oops, didn't finish that thought:

The above are good measures that would reduce the flow of illegals to a manageable number. Knock out most of those who come here to work, stop giving out welfare to those who come to collect, and you're left with the drug dealers and gang members who can be imprisoned or deported.

33 posted on 12/09/2005 11:57:13 AM PST by JohnnyZ (Veterans' Day. Enough said.)
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To: craig_eddy; seowulf
Does and subject to the jurisdiction thereof cover it?

That's the key to undoing the abuse by illegals without tne need to amend the Constitution. According to the writers of the Amendment the phrase was specifically intended to disallow foreigners the right to automatic citizenship. Jacob Howard, who inserted the clause stated:

simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural and national law, a citizen of the United States. … This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.

34 posted on 12/09/2005 11:58:19 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: JohnnyZ

Doesn't matter if the babies are innocent or not.
Their parents should not profit from an illegal act.
The baby is basically a tool to allow them to do so.

Using that logic, I could use my children to shoplift or steal cars, or run drugs without penalty to myself.


35 posted on 12/09/2005 12:03:20 PM PST by bordergal
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To: gondramB
The only case I know of that might present a problem would be Afroyim v. Rusk. However, someone located (and damned if I can find it now) a good bit of writings regarding the original intent of the citizenship language in the Constitution. It specifically said that citizenship by birth was never intended to apply to those here illegally.

A court with Roberts, Thomas, Scalia, and Alito would need only one other justice joining them to ok this. I tend to think Kennedy or Souter might do just that.
36 posted on 12/09/2005 12:15:43 PM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: bordergal
Their parents should not profit from an illegal act. The baby is basically a tool to allow them to do so.

The parents can be deported, and take their citizen baby with them or leave the child with relatives.

You can target the parents without going after the babies.

37 posted on 12/09/2005 12:16:45 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Veterans' Day. Enough said.)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


38 posted on 12/09/2005 12:17:26 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: svcw
"I had heard that the proposal was that the baby was a citizen but had to return to origin of the mother and when they were eighteen they could come back. I think thats not a bad proposal (maybe)."

I think it's perfect. It preserves the language of the 14th, thus avoiding any Constitutional challenges to the law, yet solves the problem of "anchor babies".
39 posted on 12/09/2005 12:18:23 PM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: NJ_gent
Here's a fairly good explanation of what the writers of the Amendment intended when they crafted it. Basically the jurisdiction clause had to do with owing complete allegiance to the United States:

The case against birthright citizenship

40 posted on 12/09/2005 12:23:55 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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