House Conservatives Want End to Birthright Citizenship

Human Events ^ | 12/9/05 | Robert B. Bluey

[gubamyster]

ping

[ncountylee]

End birthright citizenship for illegal aliens

This is huge in my opinion.

[BenLurkin]

And make it retroactive to 1980!

[Borges]

That would be an ex post facto law.

[Lowell]

BINGO!! // DO ALL OF THE ABOVE.

[mallardx]

Yup - the Anchor Baby syndrome is a huge loophole in illegal immigration.

[ncountylee]

Make unlawful presence in the U.S. a felony

Another key element.

[Red Badger]

That would be an ex post facto law.

But retroactive tax increases aren't?...........

[NJ_gent]

"And make it retroactive to 1980!"

That's a big 'no-no' in American law. See Article I Sec 9 US Constitution: "No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed."

[Mamzelle]

I'd like to see it, but this might make negotiating difficult--unless it's a throwaway card. It would be very difficult to change a law this old.

A back-up position might be to allow for citizenship, but to require the parents to return, and disallow the partents rec'ing any benefits from the anchor.

Wow...this'd sure make a difference at the Thomason Gen OB in El Paso!!

[NJ_gent]

"But retroactive tax increases aren't?..........."

Ex Post Facto generally refers to laws that are criminally punitive. In other words, we criminalize something that's currently legal, then go back and prosecute everyone who did it while it was still legal. I agree that retroactive tax increases are horrible in principle, I don't think a Constitutional challenge to them would hold.

[HHKrepublican_2]

Theres Conservatives in the house?!?!?


/sarc.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

House conservatives today announced plans to amend a Republican-sponsored immigration reform bill with language calling for the construction of a 2,000-mile fence along the U.S.-Mexico border and a provision that would deny citizenship to children born in the U.S. whose parents aren’t citizens.

This should have been done yesterday. Any hopes of a guest worker program, even if it's only limited to agriculture must end anchor babies and seal the borders if they expect it to get sufficient support from the general public.

[johnny7]

I am ALL for it!

Lets start flooding the phonelines to Washington and get this thing rolling.

[cdrw]

Excellent. This is a huge part of the problem. They know that once they have a baby here they will never be deported and they will eventually be able to sponsor the rest of their family to join them. We're providing a huge incentive for people to immigrate here illegally.

[gondramB]

Sounds great, where do I sign?

[gondramB]

" But retroactive tax increases aren't?..........."

Are they allowed to pass retroactive taxes? I would think that would be unconstitutional.

[seowulf]

How do they plan on getting around that little ole 14th Amendment to the Constitution thingy that says, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside"?

Are they talking Constitutional amendment?

[gondramB]

"Theres Conservatives in the house?!?!?"


They let a few token conservatives in but they have to sit in the back and stay quiet. /not totally sarcastic