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1 posted on 12/09/2005 11:22:40 AM PST by Jean S
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2 posted on 12/09/2005 11:23:39 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: JeanS
End birthright citizenship for illegal aliens

This is huge in my opinion.

3 posted on 12/09/2005 11:24:31 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: JeanS

And make it retroactive to 1980!


4 posted on 12/09/2005 11:24:37 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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Make unlawful presence in the U.S. a felony

Another key element.

8 posted on 12/09/2005 11:25:55 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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I'd like to see it, but this might make negotiating difficult--unless it's a throwaway card. It would be very difficult to change a law this old.

A back-up position might be to allow for citizenship, but to require the parents to return, and disallow the partents rec'ing any benefits from the anchor.

Wow...this'd sure make a difference at the Thomason Gen OB in El Paso!!

11 posted on 12/09/2005 11:29:08 AM PST by Mamzelle (The best offense-- is the unbeatable defense...Darrell K. Royal)
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House conservatives today announced plans to amend a Republican-sponsored immigration reform bill with language calling for the construction of a 2,000-mile fence along the U.S.-Mexico border and a provision that would deny citizenship to children born in the U.S. whose parents aren’t citizens.

This should have been done yesterday. Any hopes of a guest worker program, even if it's only limited to agriculture must end anchor babies and seal the borders if they expect it to get sufficient support from the general public.

14 posted on 12/09/2005 11:34:48 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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I am ALL for it!

Lets start flooding the phonelines to Washington and get this thing rolling.

15 posted on 12/09/2005 11:37:45 AM PST by johnny7 (“You have a corpse in a car, minus a head, in the garage. Take me to it.”)
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Excellent. This is a huge part of the problem. They know that once they have a baby here they will never be deported and they will eventually be able to sponsor the rest of their family to join them. We're providing a huge incentive for people to immigrate here illegally.
16 posted on 12/09/2005 11:38:43 AM PST by cdrw (Freedom and responsibility are inseparable)
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To: JeanS

Sounds great, where do I sign?


17 posted on 12/09/2005 11:39:59 AM PST by gondramB ( We don't get no government loan and no one sends a check from home-we just do what what we wanna)
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To: JeanS

How do they plan on getting around that little ole 14th Amendment to the Constitution thingy that says, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside"?

Are they talking Constitutional amendment?


19 posted on 12/09/2005 11:42:24 AM PST by seowulf
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This is great if they can pull it off.......their efforts also have to include a thorough investigation of welfare fraud with these illegals using multiple ID's to obtain benefits.


22 posted on 12/09/2005 11:45:25 AM PST by american spirit (Can you handle the truth? - www.rbnlive.com ( 4-6 CST M-F)) / click "listen live")
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To: JeanS

About bloody time.


24 posted on 12/09/2005 11:46:27 AM PST by lilylangtree
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To: JeanS

clap clap clap


26 posted on 12/09/2005 11:47:02 AM PST by Buffettfan
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To: JeanS

Tancredo's bill is a HUGE step in the right direction. It needs to specify that the federal courts have no jurisdiction over it, per Article III Section 2 of our federal Constitution.

And, BTW, a proper reading of the 14th Amendment would make this bill redundant. The 14th amendment to the U.S. Constitution confers citizenship upon “All person born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, …” This second condition is universally overlooked in discussions about illegal immigration and newborns. Illegal immigrants are - by definition - have not subjected themselves to the jurisdiction of our laws. The babies were brought here illegally, not subject to our laws. They are not, therefore, U.S. citizens.

But since our legislature and courts are out to lunch so often, let's encourage our congressmen to support Tancerdo's bill.


28 posted on 12/09/2005 11:49:29 AM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (In all things give thanks, for this is the will of God for you in Christ Jesus.)
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To: JeanS

Make it 1776.


31 posted on 12/09/2005 11:51:56 AM PST by FFIGHTER (Character Matters!)
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Stopping Businesses from Hiring Illegals: Make employment verification mandatory Eliminate the business tax write-off for illegal workers Increase the penalty for employers who hire illegal aliens Make businesses who hire illegal aliens ineligible for future guest workers

Reducing the Incentive to Come Illegally: Disallow all federal funding from going to states that offer in-state tuition to illegal aliens Disallow the matricula consular card as a legal form of identification Reform the use of ITINs Eliminate social security totalization for illegal aliens

The above are good measures that would .

Leave the birthright citizenship out of it. Any problems arising from that are a symptom of a broken system, not a contributing factor. Don't attack the symptoms, don't go after newborn babies who have done nothing wrong, solve the actual problem.

32 posted on 12/09/2005 11:54:16 AM PST by JohnnyZ (Veterans' Day. Enough said.)
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Eliminate chain migration

If Tancredo gets his way on this element of immigration the country will end up with far less seriously needed intellectual immigrants.
41 posted on 12/09/2005 12:31:34 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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It should have never happened in the first place.


47 posted on 12/09/2005 12:40:29 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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House Conservatives Want End to Birthright Citizenship

GEEZE, THIS IS A NO BRAINER AND LOOOOONG OVERDUE!

65 posted on 12/10/2005 3:49:05 PM PST by demkicker
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...whose parents aren’t citizens.

I would change that to read, "legal residents".

75 posted on 12/11/2005 12:25:51 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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