Support For Hillary Clinton Presidential Bid Falls To Lowest Level This Year

Rasmussen Reports ^ | November 30, 2005

[Clintonfatigued]

If Hillary Clinton runs for President in 2008, just 25% of Americans say they would definitely vote for her. That's down five points over the past two weeks. It's also the lowest level of support measured for the former First Lady in 2005. (Review Trends).

Forty percent (40%) would definitely vote against Senator Clinton. That's little changed from two weeks ago. Rasmussen Reports has conducted a Hillary Meter poll every other week since April. Only once has the number who say they would definitely vote against Clinton been higher than it is now.

[Sam the Sham]

You are missing political history.

Blacks constantly, consistently choose a red state Democrat. Not a Northeast white liberal. Warner is too conservative for the Moveon types. He won't do so well in Iowa or New Hampshire but he will sweep Super Tuesday and lock up enough black support to do well in the big blue states.

The key for Warner is getting the black vote.

[ajolympian2004]

Warner is too Conservative for the 'Rat primary voters. To say they are radical left anti-American moonbats would be an understatement.

My number one goal for 2008 is to make sure that hillary clinton and the traitor john kerry are NOT elected to the position of commander-in-chief of our military. If it takes changing parties to vote in the democratic primary for someone like John Warner it will be well worth it. The sooner that hillary and kerry are relegated to the dust bin of history the better for our country.

[luvbach1]

I don't think McCain would be a party to throwing the election to Hittlery.

[concerned about politics]

Can money buy love ?

Oh yeah. The democrats bend over on command. They'll do anything for a dollar.

[MattinNJ]

Agreed-it will be either Warner or Bayh. They need a Bush State. If Allen is our nominee (which I think he will be) it will be Bayh since Allen would beat Warner in Va. Hillary being the nominee would be the best thing that could happen to us. We could run a stick figure and win.

Richardson as VP will be problems as it puts the SW into play.

[TatieBug]

This just made my day...shared with others to make their day.

[cloud8]

> The only Democrat worth a damn these days is Lieberman and they seem to hate the man.

The only Democrat actually *doing* anything these days is the obsessed Eliot Spitzer, the pre-annointed gov of NY. If Rodham stumbles, you can be damn sure Eliot will be available.

[Namyak]

You are exactly right. The problem with a Hillary Clinton Presidential bid is that the minute she throws her hat into the ring, there is a solid 25%-35% (I'm just guessing on that) that will not vote for her under any circumstances. It doesn't matter if the Republican candidate is the Anti-Christ or even McCain himself. They will not vote for her. In additional, one just needs to peruse the DU message boards to see that Hillary has lost her extreme kooky left with her recent stab to the middle. If Hillary were to run for President, she'd be hard pressed to court the middle like her husband did while holding on to the fringe of the left-wing. Barring an exceptionally strong third-party candidate, like Ross Perot who propelled Clinton into the White House, Hillary is DOA.

[Sam the Sham]

Could Allen beat Warner in VA ? I wonder.

The interesting thing about the 2004 Dem primaries was that white leftists took control of the nominating process from black politicians. There was no establishment figure for the black politicians to get behind. Kerry came out of left field after Dean imploded.

[ajolympian2004]

You are exactly right. The problem with a Hillary Clinton Presidential bid is that the minute she throws her hat into the ring, there is a solid 25%-35% (I'm just guessing on that) that will not vote for her under any circumstances. It doesn't matter if the Republican candidate is the Anti-Christ or even McCain himself. They will not vote for her. In additional, one just needs to peruse the DU message boards to see that Hillary has lost her extreme kooky left with her recent stab to the middle. If Hillary were to run for President, she'd be hard pressed to court the middle like her husband did while holding on to the fringe of the left-wing. Barring an exceptionally strong third-party candidate, like Ross Perot who propelled Clinton into the White House, Hillary is DOA.

And what I'm observing from women we know is that they HATE hillary with a passion. Women will be the downfall of hillary.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"You are missing political history."

I'm sorry, this one caused me to split my sides. I kinda am a political historian and have been accused multiple times of dwelling too much in the past or living in a textbook.

"Blacks constantly, consistently choose a red state Democrat. Not a Northeast white liberal. Warner is too conservative for the Moveon types. He won't do so well in Iowa or New Hampshire but he will sweep Super Tuesday and lock up enough black support to do well in the big blue states."

Color me very surprised if Warner gets the nod (pun unintended). But White radical left activists aren't going to let (insert racist euphemism for Blacks) decide who gets the nod if it goes against their candidate. You have to understand, to them, people like Warner or Evan Bayh are regarded as crypto-Republicans.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"My number one goal for 2008 is to make sure that hillary clinton and the traitor john kerry are NOT elected to the position of commander-in-chief of our military. If it takes changing parties to vote in the democratic primary for someone like John Warner it will be well worth it."

John Warner ? Freudian slip ? ;-)

[gathersnomoss]

She ain't run'in. If she does it is because the demon's do not have anyone else to run. The MSM will be Hill's rug munchers and will protect her virtuous endeavors. She would have a decent chance as they will pull out all of the stops. The republicans woill need a herculean effort to beat the total effort.

[Sam the Sham]

You are still missing history.

Remember the examples I cited in my previous post. The white leftists wanted Bayh in 1976 but the blacks solidified behind Carter. The white leftists wanted Brown in 1992 but the blacks solidified behind Clinton.

[fieldmarshaldj]

I had a prominent 'Rat elected official in Michigan tell me personally if Bayh gets the nod, it will cause a split in the party. A huge number of activists will NEVER support Mark Warner or Evan Bayh. The base is moving towards Feingold (if only because they view Hillary as being damaged goods and ideologically unreliable (!) and Kerry as unelectable).

[Arizona Carolyn]

And plenty of Freepers ready to help her by voting a third party candidate.

[cloud8]

> In 1992 the white leftists wanted Brown.

Jerry Brown?

> Blacks will choose the candidate least likely to support sodomite rights.

Nice theory w/r/t the impeached POS's consolidating black support in the primaries, but I'm afraid the white leftists will continue to tell blacks to support whomever the white leftists tell them to. Blacks, as you say, are smarter than that.

[Sofa King]

I still say that she won't get the nomination in 08. I can't say who will, but I don't think she'll fare well in a national campaign against even a Kerry-level opponent. She's a media darling, but she's not much of a popular candidate, and hasn't ever had to really fight for her position. I think she'll be the Clark of 08- a candidate with an initial strong showing because of media push, but will lose out to a better campaigner.

[Namyak]

Strike it up to my optimistic faith in humanity, but I can't see Hillary getting more than 35-40% of the popular vote even if the MSM pulls out all the stops to support her. Simply put, the average voter will not vote for Hillary for one of three reasons...

1) She's a woman. I know that shouldn't matter in today's society, but there is still a large minority of people who don't feel comfortable with a woman being President and Commander-and-Chief. Sad, maybe, but true...

2) Any political opponent worth his salt would hammer the fact that Hillary has never held a position of power in her short political career. Her only chance, her heading of the Health Insurance Reform Committee, where she was appointed by her husband, went down in flames by the actions of the Congress and the public alike.

3) Hillary holds many positions that are anathema to the voting public. Sure, they might be able to gloss over her unwavering support of abortion, her unfailingly Socialist tendencies... but no matter how much lipstick you put on a pig, a pig remains a pig.

[fieldmarshaldj]

I'd have to re-review '76 primary for my own benefit. As for '92, Brown was never going to get the nod, regardless. He was too strange and unpersonable. Prior to 2000, there was a much larger "moderate" contingent that was involved in the nomination process which is considerably smaller today. Blacks, despite being a huge % of their vote, had very little impact with the selection of Kerry. Even if Warner manages to get to the Convention with a plurality of the votes (which I sincerely doubt at this point), he's not going to get the nod. The only way that could happen is if the Democrat party all of a sudden adapted a pragmatic approach, and that's not going to happen within the next 2 years.