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Vatican Decries `Pansexual Culture' (World AIDS Day Message)
Yahoo News ^ | November 29, 2005

Posted on 11/29/2005 1:23:50 PM PST by NYer

The Vatican decried a culture of sex that is fueling the AIDS crisis and said Tuesday that keeping sexual activity exclusive to marriage was the best way to prevent the virus from spreading.

The Vatican's Pontifical Council for Health Pastoral Care issued a message for World AIDS Day, which is marked every Dec. 1.

In it, the Vatican said sexual transmission remains the most important pathway of infection — even more than by mother to child and blood transfusions.

"This is greatly fostered by a kind of pansexual culture that devalues sexuality, reducing it to mere pleasure without any further meaning," it said.

"Radical prevention in this field must come from a correct conception and practice of sexuality, where sexual activity is understood in its deep meaning as a total and absolute expression of the fecund giving of love."

It said that is found in keeping sex exclusive to marriage and in intensifying the strength of the family.

The Vatican's opposition to condoms has been criticized by those who advocate their use as a way to help combat the spread of the HIV virus. However, several prelates have suggested that using condoms that could prevent a death may be the lesser evil.

Last week organizers of the annual Christmas concert at the Vatican said a Brazilian singer who promoted condom use in an anti-AIDS campaign had been dropped from the lineup. Officials said Daniela Mercury's appearance was canceled for fear that she would publicly promote condom use while at the Vatican.


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1 posted on 11/29/2005 1:23:52 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 11/29/2005 1:24:19 PM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: NYer
Me- I'm not a Catholic but thank your Pope for His wisdom on this issue.
3 posted on 11/29/2005 1:26:15 PM PST by vimto (Life isn't a dry run)
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To: NYer
"The Vatican decried a culture of sex that is fueling the AIDS crisis and said Tuesday that keeping sexual activity exclusive to marriage was the best way to prevent the virus from spreading"

How many billions have we spent proving that one simple sentence true now?

4 posted on 11/29/2005 1:27:22 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: NYer
The Vatican's opposition to condoms has been criticized by those who advocate their use as a way to help combat the spread of the HIV virus. However, several prelates have suggested that using condoms that could prevent a death may be the lesser evil.

Just my IMO, but it seems that condoms fail more often than simple chastity (according to one's state in life, of course).

5 posted on 11/29/2005 1:30:36 PM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: NYer
keeping sexual activity exclusive to marriage was the best way to prevent the virus from spreading

Many will think it quaint, but it is so refreshing to hear someone in this day and age stating that sex should be reserved for the marital state. This has always and everywhere been Christian moral doctrine.

6 posted on 11/29/2005 1:32:09 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: NYer

This type of revolutionary thinking will not win friends among the "progressives" of the world. But then again maybe it's just the "progressives" way of culling their herd.


7 posted on 11/29/2005 1:33:55 PM PST by ladtx ("It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it." -- -- General Douglas MacArthur)
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To: ladtx
Of course it will. To "progressives," there is no higher valued activity in life than sexual gratification. It is to be pursued and worshipped, wherever and with whomever (or whatever) you wish, and of course "society" must make sure that you endure no negative consequences from having all the sex you want, including unwanted pregnancy, AIDS, other STDs, mental distress, or negative consequences at work. Dressing our daughters like whores is fine, allowing teenage oral sex parties is great, online porn is OK -- just make sure abortion is legal and we find a cure for AIDS so we can clean up the mess. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a hopeless Puritan hung up on their own sexuality.

I know liberals who really beliefve this stuff. They think conservatives and Catholics are "hung up on sex," "just want everyone to not have sex because they aren't getting any," and want to "punish" women who find contraceptives inconvenient and thus find themselves pregnant, and punish homosexuals by not finding a cure for AIDS.

8 posted on 11/29/2005 1:45:48 PM PST by Dems_R_Losers (The Kerry/Lehane/Wilson/Grunwald/Cooper plot to destroy Karl Rove has failed!)
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To: ladtx

You are more correct than you may think. So-called "progressives" see life as a zero sum game and apply Malthusian theory in every area. Helping people kill themselves through STDs is just one of their tricks.


9 posted on 11/29/2005 1:48:57 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: NYer
However, several prelates have suggested that using condoms that could prevent a death may be the lesser evil.

THat's a problem. Sin is sin so why would the church choose one evil over another?

10 posted on 11/29/2005 1:51:19 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Emmett McCarthy
So-called "progressives" see life as a zero sum game and apply Malthusian theory in every area. Helping people kill themselves through STDs is just one of their tricks.

Not to mention the fact that some in the "gay" community see it as a badge of honor to get AIDS and actively seek it. As a side note-- it really irritates me that the word "gay" as been co-opted by the homosexual crowd. There is nothing gay about their lifestyle.

11 posted on 11/29/2005 1:58:44 PM PST by ladtx ("It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it." -- -- General Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
I know liberals who really beliefve this stuff.

However, according to their playbook, there indeed is a facet of human sexuality that is deemed unhealthy: any self-chosen suppression of a desire.

12 posted on 11/29/2005 2:04:14 PM PST by TenaciousZ
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To: NYer

later read/pingout.


13 posted on 11/29/2005 2:07:08 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: NYer

Viva il Papa!


14 posted on 11/29/2005 2:09:14 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Why do liberals think the answer to poverty must be to birth control and abort the children? They say so there aren't so many mouths to feed, but don't most cultures need a lot of hands to grow the food so there is enough to eat? Isn't that the same zero sum thinking that rejects tax cutting to grow the economy?


15 posted on 11/29/2005 2:14:22 PM PST by Great Caesars Ghost (History says our political structure and weak stomach will cause us to lose this war.)
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To: NYer

Excellent statement.

It would be nice if they would mention that Africa and Asia need some decent medical care, too ... starting with clean needles for vaccinations and I.V.'s. It's a terrible scandal that they're overwhelmed with condoms and birth control pills, but can't get antibiotics, vitamins, and Pedialyte.


16 posted on 11/29/2005 2:38:50 PM PST by Tax-chick ("You don't HAVE to be a fat pervert to speak out about eating too much and lack of morals." ~ LG)
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To: NYer

17 posted on 11/29/2005 5:18:09 PM PST by mike182d ("Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?")
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To: mike182d

Long arm of the law? :-)


18 posted on 11/29/2005 5:48:21 PM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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