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Columnist Confirms CIA Plot [Against President Bush]
Accuracy In Media ^ | Nov. 29, 2005 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 11/29/2005 5:14:53 AM PST by conservativecorner

In a November 3 column in the Washington Post, Jim Hoagland confirmed that the Joseph Wilson affair was a CIA plot against President Bush. Writing his column in the form of a letter to the President, Hoagland wrote that "The hidden management of the criminal justice process and the news media practiced by spooks in Wilson-Rove-Libbygate is nothing short of brilliant. So you were right to fear the agency."

Think about that statement to the President—"you were right to fear the agency."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aim; cia; cialeak; clintonistas; dirtytricks; hoagland; josephwilson; nigerflap; roguecia; shadowgovernment; washpo; wob; wp
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To: Quilla

Another Freeper said this article is already on FR in various posts, and I agree. The only difference is, FR doesn't write the 'published' columns.

I wholly agree he's playing an incredible game of Texas Hold 'Em, a game that's far from over- and he inspires me every day.


41 posted on 11/29/2005 7:14:49 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: StatenIsland

.....Can Goss rescue the President from this den of vipers? I fear not.....

I think that instant death is a highly underreate motivator. Five or six dead CIA types would send a powerful message.


42 posted on 11/29/2005 7:16:07 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Peta girls end up as spinsters)
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To: Brilliant

I have to wonder if the Government isn't loaded with clinton people reporting back to him, so he and his scuzzy twit can smear our President even more....


43 posted on 11/29/2005 7:16:35 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: HarleyLady27

If you took a poll of government workers, I'm sure you'd find that 90% or more of them are Democrats.


44 posted on 11/29/2005 7:17:57 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

I agree....to bad we can't load up the Depts. so when a RAT is Prez. we can control everything like they do....

What's good for the goose is good for the gander...they say....


45 posted on 11/29/2005 7:20:03 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: Gritty; PhiKapMom
A little known fact is that Clinton spent the last year of his presidency moving lower-level political appointees into Civil Service jobs, where it is very difficult to fire them. The mid-levels of the bureaucracy of State, DoD, CIA, and Justice are filled with these people. What Ashcroft did was to transfer a lot of them to outlying offices so that they weren't in the Washington loop. Some of them left after this of their own volition; there isn't much spying to be done at the FBI office in Indianapolis or the Federal Attorney's office in Omaha.

State, the Pentagon, and the CIA can't send people into far-flung areas, however. Civilian employees at the Pentagon don't have many other places to work other than there, dittoes for State unless you send them to Liechtenstein or something, and the CIA people are, of course, pretty much located at Langley.

These people have been the source of the leaks since the beginning. Any time you see a New York Times story with "administration sources" you can almost bet it is from one of these moles.

It has been a real problem rooting them out, and Goss is making a huge effort. Only so much can be done, though, unless you catch them in the act.

I believe Bush knew from the beginning that he would have this problem. I personally believe Tenet wasn't going to be kept much longer until September 11 happened. Then the President had to make a choice: he could either dump Tenet and cause a turmoil in the agency while we were trying to get information on our attackers, or he could keep him and hope that patriotism would keep the CIA on track. I believe this worked until the Iraq insurgency started. At that time, the democrats and their minions in the CIA realized they could start leaking things and use the media's desire to undercut Bush to erode his poll numbers, helping set the stage for a supposed 2006 Congressional win.

I am convinced that there is something going on under the radar, and I am praying that the President is successful in defeating these disloyal people who care more about their party than their nation.

46 posted on 11/29/2005 7:53:26 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Brilliant

Have we (Republicans) always been this short sighted or is a recent trend?

Seems as tho as soon as one hits the beltway, he/she becomes deaf to anything that happens outside of it. They seem to think that Plamegate matters to us in the midwest -it doesn't and most of us are sick of hearing about it, much less paying exorbitant amounts to fund a biased "grand jury" to find out whether Joe Wilson is a liar (he is), whether Delay screwed up, who is really the President's brain, etcetc.

We care about the abominable state of our education system, illegal immigrants and the horrible things they may be sneaking over our borders, the high cost of fuel, the high cost of taxes -

Our elected representatives have no clue. They need to get one.


47 posted on 11/29/2005 7:54:31 AM PST by SusaninOhio
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To: Quilla

I agree with you. And I'm glad that the Prez still has the Secret Service around him. He has most definitely rattled the cage at the CIA, just look at all the leaks designed to reflect badly on him. I hope two more years is enough time for him to fix the CIA problem...or at least make a serious dent.


48 posted on 11/29/2005 8:01:28 AM PST by SueRae
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To: HarleyLady27

The solution is to move the government out of DC. Move part of it to Iowa, part to North Dakota, part to Arizona. There us no earthly reason why the Supreme Court has got to be down the street from the White House and the Congress. There is no reason that the Treasury Department must be where the Congress is.

Haven't these guys heard of telephones?

The Smithsonian would have a lot more room for its exhibits in Nebraska.

Get the government out of a neighborhood where 98% of the inhabitants are Dems.


49 posted on 11/29/2005 8:05:53 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: conservativecorner
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50 posted on 11/29/2005 8:06:40 AM PST by MilleniumBug
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To: conservativecorner

FIRE ALL CLINTONISTAS! BRING BACK LITMUS TESTS! BRING BACK HUAC!!!!


52 posted on 11/29/2005 8:22:36 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: mariabush

>>>I fear the liberals far more that the terrorist.

?????

oxymoron


53 posted on 11/29/2005 8:24:04 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Peach

"Conservatives and courage? Those two words will never appear in the same sentence. Sadly, I agree with you, Mo."


I think you might be confusing the terms "conservative"
and "republican". If you mean republicans have no courage, then I agree. Conservatives on the other hand do have courage, sadly there are only a handfull serving as our elected representatives.


54 posted on 11/29/2005 8:27:17 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Miss Marple
All good comments.

Getting rid of these Clinton holdovers is a gargantuan task. One has to admit, the domestic enemy is very clever and very difficult to dislodge by honest means!

55 posted on 11/29/2005 8:31:37 AM PST by Gritty ("Democrats give aid and comfort to the enemy just to give aid and comfort to the enemy - Ann Coulter)
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To: mariabush

"I fear the liberals far more that the terrorist."

The terrorists try to destroy to what we have...

The liberals try to rob, steal, cheat, connive and alter what we have.

Both, then want us to believe everything will be better under their stewardship.


56 posted on 11/29/2005 8:35:26 AM PST by Prost1 (I get my news at Free Republic!)
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To: sandyeggo
Open Up, Mr. President
Jim Hoagland
November 3 , 2005
Dear Mr. President, .................
http://www.postwritersgroup.com/archives/hoag1103.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/02/AR2005110202277_pf.html
57 posted on 11/29/2005 8:43:14 AM PST by MilleniumBug
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To: conservativecorner

Good thing we have Porter Goss there.

/sarc


58 posted on 11/29/2005 8:45:11 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: conservativecorner
CLIFF'S NOTES by Cliff Kincaid

...Jim Hoagland wrote a November 3 column in the Washington Post that confirmed everything we suspected about this "scandal." Hoagland confirmed that the Joseph Wilson affair was a CIA plot against President Bush. Writing his column in the form of a letter to the President, Hoagland wrote that "The hidden management of the criminal justice process and the news media practiced by spooks in Wilson-Rove-Libbygate is nothing short of brilliant. So you were right to fear the agency." Think about that statement to the President—"you were right to fear the agency." Wilson was sent on a CIA mission at the recommendation of his wife, Valerie Plame, in order to embarrass the administration. Libby tried to inform the press about this fact.

HERE IS A COLUMNIST FOR A MAJOR PAPER SAYING THAT THE CIA HAS BEEN ACTING independently of the elected President of the U.S., and that Bush had reason to fear it. He said the CIA had engaged in "hidden management of the criminal justice system and the news media." In effect, he is saying that the CIA is pulling the strings behind the scenes, and that reporters following the Wilson/Plame storyline are CIA puppets. He went on to say that the CIA also "triggered the investigation" into the CIA leak about Valerie Wilson by itself leaking. That is, the CIA leaked to the press the fact that it had requested an investigation. Hoagland also declared, "One lesson available in this story is that amateurs are no match for the CIA in disinformation campaigns. The spies are far better at operating in the shadows than you politicians will ever be. They have a license to dissemble." Hoagland is saying that the CIA lied about the Wilson affair and used it to undermine the Bush Administration, and that the Bush Administration was no match for the liars at the CIA.  Here was a major columnist acknowledging a CIA covert operation against Bush using lies and disinformation. This requires major congressional investigations.

THE ENTIRE PREMISE OF THE CIA LEAK INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN THROWN INTO DOUBT BY retired Major General Paul E. Vallely's statement that Joseph Wilson exposed his own wife as a CIA employee months before columnist Robert Novak published that information. Vallely, a Fox News military analyst, is being threatened with a lawsuit for saying that he was in the Fox News green room in 2002 and heard Wilson confirm her CIA status. Vallely tells Accuracy in Media that he is prepared if necessary to go to court to prove it. If the sensational charge is true, then Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald's investigation, which is based on the belief that Valerie Wilson's CIA affiliation was first disclosed publicly by Novak in July of 2003, was flawed from the start. It would also mean that the investigation was based on a false declaration from the CIA that her identity was a carefully guarded secret.

NBC'S TIM RUSSERT, WHOSE CREDIBILITY IS ON THE LINE IN THE CIA LEAK CASE, IS USING his NBC Meet the Press program to make it practically impossible for Lewis Libby to get a fair trial. Russert, who has in effect accused Libby of lying, will likely be a prosecution witness in the case. Russert and Libby disagree over whether Russert told Libby that Valerie Plame's CIA status was common knowledge among members of the press. The November 6 edition of Russert's Meet the Press show was designed to keep the public's attention not only on Libby but other White House officials as well, most notably press secretary Scott McClellan, and away from Russert. It is apparent that members of the press, including Russert, are trying to gin up a Watergate-style scandal. They are focusing endlessly on polls indicating Bush's popularity is declining, even though a recent Gallup Poll showed that the executive branch has more credibility than the media. We are asking you to send one of the enclosed postcards to Robert McCormick, the NBC News official in charge of broadcast standards, asking him to force Russert step down from reporting or commenting on this case. Another should go to Tim Russert.....

http://www.aim.org/aim_report_cliffs_notes/4194_0_4_0/
59 posted on 11/29/2005 8:52:44 AM PST by MilleniumBug
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To: wideawake
very good thinking! what a waste of 40 billion......i keep getting the CIA mixed up with the ACLU.....both worthless
60 posted on 11/29/2005 8:55:48 AM PST by fatteddy (teddy Kennedy............thank god there aren't twins!)
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