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New Policy: Southern Baptist Missionary Candidates Can't Speak in Tongues
Beliefnet ^ | Nov. 23 2005Beliefnet | Adelle M. Banks

Posted on 11/24/2005 6:32:38 AM PST by tutstar

The Southern Baptist Convention's International Mission Board has adopted a new policy that forbids missionary candidates from speaking in tongues.

The policy, adopted Nov. 15 during the board's trustee meeting in Huntsville, Ala., reflects ongoing Southern Baptist opposition to charismatic or Pentecostal practices.

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KEYWORDS: baptist; charismatic; giftsofthespirit; jibberjabber; pentecostal; sbc; speakingintongues
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To: George W. Bush
I would ask you do you believe that the Bible is the inerrant word of God? If you do, then you can't by that very admission deny the gift nor its importance. Firstly, the bible does state, when we speak in tongues, we speak not to man but to God, there are countless scriptures stating that it is for those who would. I am not saying that you, or any other individual should feel required to speak in tongues, What I do say though is that your condemnation of Charismatics is wrong.
We as Christians have a responsibility to work together to spread the gospel, Corinthians talks about the "body" of Christ, and states that the body parts should each work together. Ask yourself if your right foot wanted to go left, and your left right how far would you get? "there is neither Jew, nor Greek, bond, nor free, We are all Abrahams seed.", and until we start acting like it, we'll never accomplish all that God has for us.
121 posted on 11/24/2005 9:56:07 AM PST by whispering out loud (the bible is either 100% true, or in it's very nature it is 100% a lie)
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To: Eagle Eye
1Cr 14:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

But I'm sure there is an exemption clause in there somewhere for the SBC.

Kind of like the additional commandments they add to the original ten.

Having grown up Baptist, I know also know the Cultural 10 Commandments...

1- Thou shalt not go to a movie. (just rent it when it comes out on video).

2- Thou shalt not play baseball on Sundays. (just sit in front of the TV and watch other people violate the Sabbath).

3- Thou shalt not make mom fix dinner on the day of rest (so go to a restaurant and make the waitress violate the Sabbath)

etc....

122 posted on 11/24/2005 10:01:15 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: tutstar
psssst........hey...........SBC.........it's BIBLICAL, ya morons ya
123 posted on 11/24/2005 10:04:11 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: chronic_loser; WKB
you are referring to Middle Hebrew Script (below 900BC)....not Ancient Inscription.. ..to be precise.

There is a plethora of evidence out there about pictographs in the earliest Hebrew

try...www.ancient hebrew.org

The origins of the Ugarit cuneiform script is not known but can be assumed that it was derived out of the same Pictographic script used to write Hebrew, just as the Sumerian cuneiform evolved out of a pictographic script. This theory adds to the evidence that the Semitic/Hebrew script is older than previously thought.

Happy Thanksgiving.

124 posted on 11/24/2005 10:23:50 AM PST by wardaddy (HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (toddcaps)...lol)
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To: George W. Bush
FWIW, though I haven't changed the font size, I did revise and expand it a bit:

Straight Talk on Tongues

Dan

125 posted on 11/24/2005 10:56:03 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Ecliptic
There are some who believe that speaking in tongues is a prerequesite to being saved....a proof of someone really having the Holy Spirit....

I know, but that is an odd interpretation. The Bible does say that speaking in tongues is evidence you have been filled with the holy spirit, but no where does the Bible indicate it is necessary to be saved. They read way too much into that sentence, IMHO.

126 posted on 11/24/2005 11:22:18 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Mr. Brightside

Thou shalt not make love in the shower lest someone spot you and think you are dancing.

Thou shalt not recognize another SBC as thou passeth through the doors of the local liquor store.

And when I was in the mideast for two years the local SBC church we attened did not check on my family or bother to send me a single email.

But they never failed to send me a letter reminding me that they missed my donations.


127 posted on 11/24/2005 11:52:16 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: George W. Bush
A statement of any professional con man. Only believe...

Jhn 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Eph 1:19 And what [is] the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,

Yeah, Paul to the Ephesians was a professional con man. But you aren't saying that about Jesus, too, are you?

God wants his children to walk with the power. But some will chose not to do so.

128 posted on 11/24/2005 11:59:45 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Eagle Eye

It's so good to see discussions forwarded with references to God's word! Not tradition, opinion, feelings, or polling data. So glad there is still some salt with a seasoning effect. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) Paul also acknowledged that for now we see with shadows. I'm so glad there is One who knows the future, and we are in His hands. Another reason to give thanks.


129 posted on 11/24/2005 12:22:44 PM PST by aumrl (Shelton warrior...........)
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To: aumrl

I'm convinced that the doubters have witnessed and studied the improper practices that are obviously off the Word instead of trying to understand what the Word says.

When one approaches any subject in the Bible with a view to disprove it, then there is inherrent disbelief. They don't believe, therefore they don't see and thus they misuse scripture to justify their disbelief.

They can never say they weren't given an opportunity to know about it. They were and rejected it.


130 posted on 11/24/2005 12:30:23 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: RightOnline
ya morons ya



Such a wonderful Christian attitude.
Is this what level Speaking in Tongues
takes you to? WOW
131 posted on 11/24/2005 12:41:11 PM PST by WKB (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance.. then Baffle them with BS)
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To: VOYAGER
they and they alone have the power to save or unsave you

The Baptists have never said that that I know of.

132 posted on 11/24/2005 1:25:24 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: Eagle Eye
I've heard other similar stories, but too many non believers persist in the notion that tongues are for preaching to others when clearly that is not the intent

I 'm not sure I'm following what you're saying here, maybe it's the pumpkin pie fog.

133 posted on 11/24/2005 1:32:46 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: RaceBannon

That's a pretty long doc...was there any certain page you want to point out?


134 posted on 11/24/2005 1:38:20 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: alpha-8-25-02

How was the Northern Pumpkin Pie? 8^)


135 posted on 11/24/2005 1:39:30 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: tutstar

Sure made sense when I wrote it...BEFORE my punkin pie!


136 posted on 11/24/2005 1:42:32 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: BibChr

Thanks for the link!


137 posted on 11/24/2005 2:14:36 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: tutstar; Nightshift; All

A little more detail on the measure from imb's site.

SELECTION MEASURES ADOPTED

During their plenary session, trustees approved a policy opposing a missionary candidate’s practice of using a “private prayer language.” The vote was 25-18 with some trustees not voting.

Issues of the policy involve missionary candidate qualifications known as “Southern Baptist Identity.” Those qualifications state candidates must: (1) be committed to and identified with Southern Baptists; (2) hold a conviction of truth as expressed in the “Baptist Faith and Message” of the Southern Baptist Convention; (3) possess a minimum of three years’ tenure as a Southern Baptist; and (4) have current membership in a Southern Baptist church.

“In terms of worship practices, the majority of Southern Baptist churches do not practice glossolalia (speaking in tongues),” states the policy approved by trustees as a framework for the Office of Mission Personnel staff to use with new candidates regarding a private prayer language.

The policy also says the New Testament speaks of glossolalia as a gift that “generally is considered to be a legitimate language of some people group,” and adds that “prayer language as commonly expressed by those practitioners is not the same as the biblical use of glossolalia.” Also, the policy says the Apostle “Paul’s clear teaching is that prayer should be made with understanding.”

“In terms of general practice, the majority of Southern Baptists do not accept what is referred to as ‘private prayer language,’” the policy further states. “Therefore, if ‘private prayer language’ is an ongoing part of his or her conviction and practice, the candidate has eliminated himself or herself from being a representative of the IMB of the SBC.”

The policy is not retroactive and is designed to be followed beginning Nov. 15, the day of its adoption.

Regarding a candidate’s baptism, trustees voted two to one to establish a guideline that specifies (1) believer’s baptism by immersion; (2) baptism follows salvation; (3) baptism is symbolic, picturing the experience of the believer’s death to sin and resurrection to a new life in Christ; (4) baptism does not regenerate; and (5) baptism is a church ordinance.

The guideline establishes that candidates must have been baptized in a Southern Baptist church or in a church of another denomination that practices believer’s baptism by immersion alone. Also, the baptism must not be viewed as sacramental or regenerative, and the church must embrace the doctrine of the security of the believer.

The guideline says the candidate is responsible to meet this doctrinal commitment. While the IMB candidate consultant should have a working knowledge of other denominational groups, the document says he is not expected to investigate every church.

Trustees voted that any exception to either the policy on a private prayer language or the baptism guideline must be reviewed by IMB staff and the board’s Process Review Committee.


http://www.imb.org/core/story.asp?storyID=3487&Language%20ID=1709


138 posted on 11/24/2005 2:20:11 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: Eagle Eye

So you're confused too?


139 posted on 11/24/2005 2:22:09 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: mc6809e

Like some of the "healing" services no doubt.


140 posted on 11/24/2005 2:25:22 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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