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Church dissolved over homosexual issue (Episcopal Church in Rochester NY)
World Net Daily ^ | November 23, 2005

Posted on 11/23/2005 6:32:12 AM PST by NYer

A congregation that refused to pay its dues in protest of the Episcopal Church of the USA's ordination of a homosexual bishop has been dissolved by its diocese.

Rochester's Episcopal diocese in New York voted Saturday to shut down All Saints Episcopal Church in Irondequoit, according to the Rochester Democrat and Chronicle newspaper.

The church's property and other assets are to be turned over to the trustees of the diocese.

The church refused to pay $16,000 it owed the diocese after the 2003 ordination of Bishop Gene Robinson in New Hampshire – a practicing homosexual – and the denomination's decision to give individual dioceses liberty to bless same-sex unions.

Parishioners gathered in the lobby of the Hyatt Regency hotel in Rochester to find out the result of the vote.

"Goodbye now and God bless you," said All Saints' leader, the Rev. David Harnish, as he left the room where the vote took place.

Harnish then went to the lobby where a small group from his church had gathered.

"The same bishop who strongly opposes the death penalty has issued an ecclesiastical death sentence," he told the parishioners. "But we are alive and well."

The Rev. Canon Carolyn Lumbard, a spokeswoman for the diocese, told the Rochester paper she had come to know many at All Saints after working with them for four years.

"I know their struggle is their struggle, just like my struggle is my struggle," she said. "I don't understand theirs and they don't understand mine, either."

But she emphasized the congregation still must pay its share of the dues.

Similarly, regardless of what you think about the laws of the U.S., "If you don't pay your taxes, you go to jail," said the Rev. Diana Purcell-Chapman, who says she reluctantly voted in favor of the resolution. "It had to be done."

Rev. Denise Yarbrough of St. Mark's Episcopal Church in Penn Yan, N.Y., said, "We didn't kick them out. They chose to go."

Yarbrough, a lesbian, said she and others offered to dialogue with parishioners, but they were refused.

All Saints plans to continue operating and possibly be a home for others in the diocese who disagree with the Episcopal Church of the USA, according to Walck.

"We will be a church and we will be functioning," he said.


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KEYWORDS: bishop; churchclosings; ecusa; episcopal; fallout; gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexualbishop; robinson; schism
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To: Nihil Obstat
Today is Archbishop Jadot's 96th birthday. What should we get him?

Are you serious!!! If so, then he just got his gift - the newest instruction on admission of homosexuals to the priesthood. May he rest in peace.

81 posted on 11/23/2005 5:09:27 PM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: NYer

Today is really his 96th birthday - he's still with us!

I was thinking maybe we could get him a catechism. Or an exorcism.


82 posted on 11/23/2005 5:13:48 PM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: AnAmericanMother
We had the radio tuned in once we heard the smoke was up . . . the cardinal read the announcement V-E-R-Y slowly in Latin - he got to "Josephum" and I said, "It's Ratzinger." . . . it seemed like 5 minutes before he said "Ratzinger" but he did eventually. (I did clap my hands and say, "All right!" Everybody looked at me funny, but they're used to my eccentric ways . . . )

ROFL! Me too!

We all keep our computers on mute during working hours. I tuned mine to EWTN and stepped out of the office for a few minutes. When I returned, I noticed the live image of bells ringing. Having witnessed this several times in my life, I realized its significance, turned off the mute and set the volume to low. Several coworkers walked in and I told them the bells at St. Peter's were ringing. "Habemus Papam!", I shouted and they immediately asked who. They gathered around my monitor to watch. By now, the camera was focused on the balcony and those red drapes. By the time they were drawn back, a large group had assembled behind me and the monitor. Like you, as the announcement was s-l-o-w-l-y read in Latin, the minute I heard "Josephum", I shouted - "It's Ratzinger!!!" Everyone looked at me dumbfounded, wondering who he was. And, like you, I am perceived as the religious kook; yet, they all hold me in high esteem because underneath their masks, they fear God. Hence they respect even the "kook" because perhaps she is praying for their immortal souls (which, of course, I do each and every night :-).

83 posted on 11/23/2005 5:24:36 PM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: NYer

You remind me of my duty! I need to pray for my office-mates, too.


84 posted on 11/23/2005 5:33:34 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Nihil Obstat
I was thinking maybe we could get him a catechism. Or an exorcism.

Better yet, a reminder of where he is headed after his days on earth are ended.

Dante's Inferno . This will allow him time to pick out his spot.

85 posted on 11/23/2005 5:34:12 PM PST by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: servantboy777
The real issue here is authority of Holy Scripture.

It is, if you are a Christian. The problem facing the ECUSA and the ELCA and other dying protestant denominations, is that they are being taken over from within by atheistic leftwing crackpots who don't give squat about "Holy Scripture." For them the issue is settled and the only thing left is to count up the money and grab as much as possible of the assets. Look for the Episcopal Cathedral near you to be a coffee house/bath-house in about ten years.

86 posted on 11/23/2005 5:40:19 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: sionnsar

Ping. You've probably already been pinged but just in case. I wonder if they can use the court case in Ca. to their benefit?


87 posted on 11/23/2005 5:45:37 PM PST by Alice au Wonderland (Viper-Tongued Sister of the King, Mother Superior, Purveyor of Prurience, Caustic Court Castigator)
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To: Lancey Howard
I think I'm beginning to get the picture about this church.

When the fascists drop their mask of civility, they are unmistakeable. It's the skeletal face of dead white bone that gives them away every time.

88 posted on 11/23/2005 5:51:38 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: beelzepug
I guess anything can be a verb these days. After dinner tomorrow, I plan to "cribbage" with my brothers.

LOL! As Rod Serling used to say, "Consider this." A couple of months ago my wife and I took my youngest daughter to graduate school in Rapid City. We were cribbaging in our hotel one of the nights. I was ahead of her by, perhaps, ten or twelve holes going onto 3rd street.

It was her deal. She dealt herself 3 fives and a jack of the 4th suit. You can see where this is going. Well, it didn't go there.

She dealt me two aces, a two and a three. She also dealt me a jack and a king. Now, this is a self discarder, especially rounding onto 3rd street. Jack and king to her crib.

Now insult gets added to injury. Besides her three 5's and the jack, she dealt herself a queen and a king. Self discarder, king and queen to her crib.

I cut another miserable jack.

Get a deck of cards and lay out those hands. You will see one of the quickest reversals and momentum shifts in the history of cribbage. There is that old saying that luck beats skill every time.

89 posted on 11/23/2005 7:35:39 PM PST by stevem
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