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Iraq IS Vietnam All Over Again (Joseph Farah Warns Against Cut And Run Party's Treason Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 11/21/05 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 11/20/2005 10:38:31 PM PST by goldstategop

Maybe the Howard Deans and Dennis Kuciniches and Nancy Pelosis of the world are right, for once.

Maybe Iraq is Vietnam all over again.

Who would have thought that just four years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on this country that the opposition party would be calling for an unconditional surrender to the people who attacked us?

Make no mistake about it. That is exactly how a premature withdrawal from Iraq would be viewed and celebrated by the Islamo-fascists of al-Qaida – from Abu Musab Zarqawi in Iraq to Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.

Who would have thought that just four years after 3,000 Americans were incinerated by Islamists for no other reason than they were Americans, that the country would be divided over whether to defeat the enemy when they were on the run?

Make no mistake about it. I listen to Iraq war veterans on my radio show every day tell me how we are on the offensive still in Iraq, defeating the terrorist enemy in every engagement, conducting missions that are taking their toll. Just like in Vietnam, we are winning every battle on the field and losing the war at home!

Who would have thought that just two years after this war started, politicians safely ensconced behind anti-terrorist barricades and protected by taxpayer-provided armed security agents at home would still be debating whether we were right to invade Iraq?

Make no mistake about it. I remember the same kind of misinformed debates taking place in 1968. It was demoralizing to our troops in Vietnam and it is equally demoralizing to our troops in Iraq. One Iraq war vet hoping to return for this third tour told me recently: "Please tell the American people not to write us over there about how they support the troops but oppose the war. That really gets us mad. We don't want to hear that message any more. If you're tempted to say that, please do us a favor and shut up." Iraq war soldiers can see through that baloney as easily as Vietnam war soldiers could.

Who would have thought that after all the debate before the war about Saddam Hussein's genocidal rule of Iraq, this use of chemical weapons on his own people, his potential for developing nuclear weapons and putting them in the hands of terrorists and his active cooperation with al-Qaida before 9-11, that Americans would still be arguing about matters of established fact?

Make no mistake about it. That's what we are doing today. Let me make this real simple: Saddam was and is the biggest mass murderer alive on the planet. He had weapons of mass destruction and wanted to build more. He would not have hesitated to put them in the hands of terrorists to use against the United States. He supported terrorism all over the world – including al-Qaida prior to Osama bin Laden's mega-attack on us Sept. 11, 2001. Not only did Iraq have weapons of mass destruction, we captured some of them and brought them home to the United States. Why the Bush administration has not made a better case of articulating the overwhelming facts on these matters, I do not pretend to understand.

I don't know what's wrong with a significant part of the American public. I don't know why, according to one poll, 25 percent of Americans don't think Iraq is better off with Saddam Hussein in leg irons. I don't know why so many Americans aren't sure who is more dangerous – Osama bin Laden or George W. Bush.

But I do know this: Many Americans don't like sacrifice of any kind. They don't have the stomach for war. We need to remember this before we send young men overseas into combat. And we need to hit the enemy hard and with everything we've got and conclude conflicts swiftly and successfully, achieving total victory and bringing our troops home.

Right now, our enemy is just hoping to last through 2008, knowing the strong likelihood that an appeasing Democrat will win the White House and make their day.

So the clock is ticking. We need seem more shock and awe now. We need to take out as many terrorists as we can in the short time left. The Democrats seem determined to relive Vietnam once again.

The United States no more lost the war in Vietnam on the battlefield than we could possibly lose the war in Iraq on the battlefield.

We lost the war in Vietnam right here at home because politicians, the media and anti-American protesters – many of them funded and directed by the Soviet Union and cultivated by the Communist North Vietnamese – attacked the country's will to fight. And the Democrats capitulated. The Democrats appeased. The Democrats, all too often, sided with the enemy.

Vietnam all over again? In a sense, politicians like Kerry and Dean and Pelosi are fulfilling their own prophecy when they call Iraq another Vietnam. Even some of the names are the same. John Kerry was calling American soldiers "monsters" back then. As a U.S. senator today, he is only slightly more circumspect.

But Vietnam was not really a matter of national security for the United States. It meant the lives of millions in Southeast Asia, but it only meant demoralization here in the U.S. While defending millions of Vietnamese from annihilation and communist oppression was a noble cause, the fight against Islamic terrorists is much bigger. It's a matter of national survival. It's a matter of saving the lives of millions of Americans. It's a matter of preserving the USA and all for which it stands.

America dare not get squishy in this fight. If we do, Osama bin Laden will have won.

It will not bring us peace if we run from Iraq. It will bring us more terror – terror on a scale we cannot imagine, terror that will make Sept. 11, 2001, seem like a footnote in history.


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The Cut and Run Party would endanger our national security. Like with Vietnam, they believe we have no business defending our nation in a place thousands of miles from these shores from a murderous Al Qaeda terrorist named Musab Abu Al Zarqawi. They'd rather see Iraq plunged into a bloodbath and civil war and see its people slaughtered than stand at their side to help their emerging democracy grow and survive so it can defend itself from our common enemy. Like Joseph Farah, I confess I don't understand either why 25% of Americans believe Iraq was better off under a psychopath monster named Saddam Hussein - who was the Stalin of the Middle East and past century's worst mass murderer of his own people and who the Democrats conveniently now forget was a threat to the peace and safety of the world. Make no mistake: if the Cut and Run Party should prevail and force us to run from Iraq before our mission there is accomplished, we will witness terror on a scale that will make September 11, 2001, seem like a footnote in history. The stakes have never been higher.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

1 posted on 11/20/2005 10:38:33 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

I LOVE the new Democrat Party tag, "The Cut and Run Party". Too long tho, needs more zip.


2 posted on 11/20/2005 10:44:00 PM PST by wvobiwan (It's OUR Net! If you don't like it keep your stanky routers off it!)
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To: goldstategop

The similarity between the wars in Vietnam and Iraq are that the same Democrats (and communists) who led the protests against the former are leading the charge against the later.

The Iraq war is over. Saddam is deposed. The transition government is in place. We continue to fight the War On Terror in Iraq. We "could" pull out and let the country slide (or at the very least, give the terrorists a victory over "the Great Satan").

There is no insurgency any more than the KKK in the reconstruction South were a viable alternative to the Yankee occupiers. Should the government have retreated when the KKK was still killing government officials in the 1960s?


3 posted on 11/20/2005 10:46:33 PM PST by weegee (To understand the left is to rationalize how abortion can be a birthright.)
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To: goldstategop

Modern dems....america's surrender monkeys.


4 posted on 11/20/2005 10:48:10 PM PST by fizziwig
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To: goldstategop
Not only did Iraq have weapons of mass destruction, we captured some of them and brought them home to the United States. Why the Bush administration has not made a better case of articulating the overwhelming facts on these matters, I do not pretend to understand. ---

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No kidding!

5 posted on 11/20/2005 10:49:35 PM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not an exit strategy”)
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To: fizziwig
I don't understand either why Americans aren't calling for victory over the enemy. Instead many of our countrymen, like Jihad Cindy are consumed with their own comfort first. We can't beat Al Qaeda. After all that happened four years ago, do we really want to be a pitiful giant, helpless in the face of car bombs and homocide bombers exploding on our streets? That is what we will get if we decide to thrown in the towel.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

6 posted on 11/20/2005 10:51:32 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Why the Bush administration has not made a better case of articulating the overwhelming facts on these matters, I do not pretend to understand.

If I was to guess .. because he's been burned by certain members in our Intel agencies who are working against our country .. and he can't rely solely on their information??

He needs to build a hard case evidence before he announces all that has been found

7 posted on 11/20/2005 10:53:40 PM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: beyond the sea
The facts are clearly. I am amazed people think that Saddam didn't have any evil designs on any one. What do they think we did when we kept our troops for over a decade in Saudi Arabia and imposed no-fly zones over most of his country if we didn't perceive him as a mortal threat? Make no mistake, Saddam may not have had nuclear weapons but that's only because we removed him from power. There is not a shadow of a doubt, left to his own devices, he would have obtained them eventually and either used them against us or given them over to terrorist groups to use against us. We're a lot safer today because President Bush acted decisively to eliminate that threat to our country. Its existence was not in dispute. It is beyond me why people have decided not to see the truth in front of their own eyes.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

8 posted on 11/20/2005 10:56:49 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: wvobiwan

Democrats: "The surrender party"


9 posted on 11/20/2005 10:56:49 PM PST by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: wvobiwan

Bflr


10 posted on 11/20/2005 10:57:52 PM PST by Captainpaintball (Conservatives: Semper Fi!!! Liberals: Simper Flee!!!)
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To: Mo1
Every one knows the truth. Saddam is the fellow who murdered his way to power, committed genocide on the Kurds and Shiites, launched wars on neighboring countries and cooperated with every terrorist group on the planet. And he had ambitions to make Iraq a nuclear power. Its all there - if you care to look for it.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

11 posted on 11/20/2005 10:59:06 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
It is beyond me why people have decided not to see the truth in front of their own eyes.

I think some of them see the truth, they just have other purposes, not American purposes.

12 posted on 11/20/2005 10:59:49 PM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not an exit strategy”)
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To: goldstategop
I know and you know it .. but many are working feverishly against this administration

You can bet when the President does come forward with what's been found and all that is known .. that all the i's have been dotted and all the t's have been cross

He's not going to give those who are working against this country a chance to attack him again
13 posted on 11/20/2005 11:03:00 PM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: goldstategop
" they support the troops but oppose the war. ...If you're tempted to say that, please do us a favor and shut up."

" they support the troops but oppose the war. ...If you're tempted to say that, please do us a favor and shut up."

" they support the troops but oppose the war. ...If you're tempted to say that, please do us a favor and shut up."

" they support the troops but oppose the war. ...If you're tempted to say that, please do us a favor and shut up."

" they support the troops but oppose the war. ...If you're tempted to say that, please do us a favor and shut up."

" they support the troops but oppose the war. ...If you're tempted to say that, please do us a favor and shut up."

" they support the troops but oppose the war. ...If you're tempted to say that, please do us a favor and shut up."

" they support the troops but oppose the war. ...If you're tempted to say that, please do us a favor and shut up."

" they support the troops but oppose the war. ...If you're tempted to say that, please do us a favor and shut up."

" they support the troops but oppose the war. ...If you're tempted to say that, please do us a favor and shut up."

" they support the troops but oppose the war. ...If you're tempted to say that, please do us a favor and shut up."

14 posted on 11/20/2005 11:11:50 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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"Right now, our enemy is just hoping to last through 2008, knowing the strong likelihood that an appeasing Democrat will win the White House and make their day."

A good description of Dem feelings. Al-Qaeda probably has a similar view.

15 posted on 11/20/2005 11:14:19 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: wvobiwan
The Cut and Run Party". Too long tho, needs more zip.

How about the Cut And Run Party? CARP?

16 posted on 11/21/2005 1:03:31 AM PST by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: wvobiwan

re: I LOVE the new Democrat Party tag, "The Cut and Run Party". Too long tho, needs more zip.

Or maybe, "If the answer isn't 'Cut and Run' then you've asked the wrong question".

Also too long, but certainly seems to describe their actions of late.


17 posted on 11/21/2005 2:08:04 AM PST by jwpjr
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To: luvbach1
LOL. Transpose a few letters - I fixed it - CRAP. A pile of steaming doo.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

18 posted on 11/21/2005 2:15:53 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

The networks and the media have instituted an embargo on replaying the attacks on the World Trade Towers, and the collapse of the buildings killing 3000 in a heartbeat.

Maybe we should mandate that the replay those images once a day in prime time to get people's heads screwed on straight again as to what we are doing to avoid a repeat.

Nah! never going to happen.


19 posted on 11/21/2005 2:25:40 AM PST by oldbill
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To: wvobiwan
"The Cut and Run Party". Too long tho, needs more zip.

How about "The Terrorist Party" or simply "TRAITORS"?
20 posted on 11/21/2005 2:30:35 AM PST by leprechaun9
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