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'Mean Jean' Goes to Washington, and Invites a Firestorm
New York Times ^ | November 20, 2005 | JASON DePARLE

Posted on 11/19/2005 9:50:34 PM PST by OkeyDokeyOkie

WASHINGTON, Nov. 19 - She grew up in the rough-and-tumble of a family auto racing business, went through concealed-weapons training, and bears a local nickname seldom applied to shrinking violets: "Mean Jean."

So when Representative Jean Schmidt, an Ohio Republican, created a furor on her 75th day in Congress by lobbing the word "coward" toward a Democratic war hero, those who know her best were anything but surprised.

Just this week, a profile in The Hill newspaper, which covers Congress, labeled her "gloriously uncensored." Back home in her suburban Cincinnati district, the Whistleblower, an online newsletter that tracks local politics, rushed out a special I-told-you-so issue calling the speech "vintage Jean Schmidt."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: iraqwar; jackmurtha; jeanschmidt
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie

There is a friend of hers here on FR that says she is a loser.


101 posted on 11/20/2005 6:28:45 AM PST by cynicom
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To: denydenydeny

I just watched that SNL and almost threw up. What she said was right on. Republicans always get slugged because they NEVER FIGHT BACK. When I think of all the attacks on Condi Rice, the most racist, nasty, vicious, outrageous things being said about a high-profile black person, it makes me wonder what would happen if everything were reversed...if she were Democrat and the same things were said about her? There's be another civil war in this country. But Republicans just sit back and take it...they always have and always will.


102 posted on 11/20/2005 6:37:41 AM PST by Hildy
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To: McGavin999
she read him something from one of her constituants, also a Marine, who said "Cowards cut and run, Marines never do" If Murtha wanted to don that mantle and claim it for himself, it says more about him and those who thought it applied to him than to either Jean or her constituant.

That is exactly the point I was going to make.

Another point I'd like to make is that it is disturbing that so many "Republicans" are attacking Schmidt for delivering a truth-guided missile right in the middle of the Democrat/Al-Qaeda axis forces they those same "Republicans" haven't said a negative word about insurgent Harold Ford's thwarted attempt to physically attack Schmidt.

103 posted on 11/20/2005 6:53:51 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie
... John P. Murtha, Democrat of Pennsylvania, a Vietnam combat veteran who spent 37 years in the Marines and is one of the most respected military authorities in the House.

BS

104 posted on 11/20/2005 7:03:59 AM PST by manwiththehands
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To: Bombard

SNL is still on the air?


105 posted on 11/20/2005 7:08:20 AM PST by manwiththehands
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To: mollynme
You certainly live up to your screen name! LOL

I'm serious. What criticizm of the president or the war does not fall under the 'aid and comfort to the enemy' category? I'd really like to know.

106 posted on 11/20/2005 7:09:59 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie

Marines do NOT cut and run, cowards do. Give this woman a medal.

Oooooorahhhhhh....Semper Fi'
Jarhead


107 posted on 11/20/2005 7:11:03 AM PST by Buffettfan
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To: Rome2000
Rather, the democrats have been aiding Communism and international socialism since 1918.
108 posted on 11/20/2005 7:13:56 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (-I contribute to FR monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS supports Hillary's Secular Sexual Socialism every day.)
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie

[[Schmidt is that she allowed herself to be intimidated by the the verbal attacks of Democrats and the near physical attack by Rep. Harold Ford, who had to be restrained by other representatives.]]

What was this little sissy Howard Ford going to do? Was he going to go over and beat up a little 60 year old white woman on the floor of the US Senate? He's pathetic. Somebody should have slapped some sense into this little punk right on the spot.


109 posted on 11/20/2005 7:14:03 AM PST by Buffettfan
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To: conservative_2001
The letter she read was from State Rep. Danny Bubp, a former Marine who is currently "serving" in Columbus, Ohio in the State House. He is not serving in Iraq. Get your facts straight.

Isn't he also "serving" as a Colonel in the U.S. Marine Corp reserves? Let's not forget or leave out that fact.

I believe he is (or recently was) the President, of the Marine Corps Reserve Association, and the Staff Judge Advocate of the Marine Corps League as well.

So, he may not be in Iraq (and I don't believe Shmidt ever said he was), but he most certainly is a "serving" Marine.

110 posted on 11/20/2005 7:38:06 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: OkeyDokeyOkie
Rep. Jean Schmidt has more equipment than most Republican senators combined.

Jean Schmidt for Seante!

Leni

111 posted on 11/20/2005 7:42:45 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Non-Sequitur

But the IMPORTANT thing is that the principles that were fought for in both wars for independence were exactly the same: limited government, state's rights, & self-determination.

Yes, I'm sad to say that history is written by the winners of the wars, not the losers. But Robert E. Lee lost in grace, dignity, & class. This is one reason why the MSM tries to make everyone think that the so-called "Civil War" was fought to protect slavery rather than over Lincoln's semi-tyrannical leadership & the high tarriffs that the northern states used to suffocate the South into submission.


112 posted on 11/20/2005 7:43:19 AM PST by libertyman (It's HIGH time to make marijuana legal AGAIN!)
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To: Soul Seeker

Great reply to post #12. I ditto every word.


113 posted on 11/20/2005 7:43:36 AM PST by SwatTeam
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To: libertyman
But the IMPORTANT thing is that the principles that were fought for in both wars for independence were exactly the same: limited government, state's rights, & self-determination.

But in the War of Southern Rebellion you had a regime that paid lip service to the concept of states rights and then ignored it in practice. Both armies were made up of volunteer regiments of state militias. But where Lincoln recognized that states should control their militia and left the task of raising them up to the states, Davis took that away when he forcibly extended enlistments for the duration of the war. He imposed martial law on cities that were hundreds of miles from the fighting, effectively taking control away from state and local authorities. It's not commonly known but Davis established a level of government control over people not dreamed of by Lincoln. His habeas corpus commissioners formed an intrusive government bureaucracy that could throw someone into prison for any reason, or no reason at all. His government ignored the confederate constitution when convenient, refusing to establish a supreme court, an entire branch of government required by the constitution. To say that Davis fought for states rights is ridiculous. It is more accurate to say he fought for the slogan of states rights or limitied government or self-determination. He practiced exactly the opposite. themselves.

114 posted on 11/20/2005 7:53:32 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Soul Seeker
Murtha called Cheney a Chickenhawk...

Well, he was by the current political definition of the term.

Chickenhawk

115 posted on 11/20/2005 7:58:11 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Soul Seeker
DEMOCRATS BOOED A MARINE'S WORDS!

Well just what the hell have we been doing with Murtha's words? Cheering?

116 posted on 11/20/2005 7:59:24 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Murtha doesn't deserve the honor of being called a Marine. He has lost that honor through his perfidy.


117 posted on 11/20/2005 8:00:45 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles
Murtha doesn't deserve the honor of being called a Marine. He has lost that honor through his perfidy.

Sorry, he earned that honor through service in two wars. Once a marine always a marine.

118 posted on 11/20/2005 8:04:17 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Sorry, he earned that honor through service in two wars. Once a marine always a marine.

Then so did Benedict Arnold and Lee Harvey Oswald. You may honor a perfidious jackass simply because he once wore the uniform of honor. I will not.

According Murtha honor after this stunt is akin to giving a pedophile license to sexually molest children because he once rescued some orphans from a burning building.

May Murtha forever have the contempt of honorable Americans, especially those Americans who call themselves Marines and who live the words "Semper Fidelis" to their last breath--not just until they can trade that honor for cheap political advantage.

119 posted on 11/20/2005 8:11:15 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: Non-Sequitur
Sorry, he earned that honor through service in two wars. Once a marine always a marine.

Just my opinion, but I don't believe that is the case. When a marine (if you will) sitting in the cushy US makes statements to the world media which puts his fellow marines actually in the field into even more harm's way - he loses that special aura of "marine".

120 posted on 11/20/2005 8:14:06 AM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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