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Mark Steyn: Bicultural Europe is doomed
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 11/15/05 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 11/14/2005 2:13:32 PM PST by Pokey78

Three years ago -December 2002 - I was asked to take part in a symposium on Europe and began with the observation: "I find it easier to be optimistic about the futures of Iraq and Pakistan than, say, Holland or Denmark."

At the time, this was taken as confirmation of my descent into insanity. I can't see why. Compare, for example, the Iraqi and the European constitutions: which would you say reflected a shrewder grasp of the realities on the ground?

Or take last week's attacks in Jordan by a quartet of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's finest suicide bombers. The day after the carnage, Jordanians took to the streets in their thousands to shout "Death to Zarqawi!" and "Burn in hell, Zarqawi!" King Abdullah denounced terrorism as "sick" and called for a "global fight" against it. "These people are insane," he said of the husband-and-wife couple dispatched to blow up a wedding reception.

For purposes of comparison, consider the Madrid bombing from March last year. The day after that, Spaniards also took to the streets, for their feebly tasteful vigil. Instead of righteous anger, they were "united in sorrow" - i.e. enervated in passivity. Instead of wishing death on the perpetrators, the preferred slogan was "Basta!" - "Enough!" - which was directed less at the killers than at Aznar and Bush. Instead of a leader who calls for a "global fight", they elected a government pledged to withdraw from any meaningful role in the global fight.

My point in that symposium was a simple one: whatever their problems, most Islamic countries have the advantage of beginning any evolution into free states from the starting point of relative societal cohesion. By contrast, most European nations face the trickier task of trying to hold on to their freedom at a time of increasing societal incoherence.

True, America and Australia grew the institutions of their democracy with relatively homogeneous populations, and then evolved into successful "multicultural" societies. But that's not what's happening in Europe right now. If you want to know what a multicultural society looks like, read the names of America's dead on September 11: Arestegui, Bolourchi, Carstanjen, Droz, Elseth, Foti, Gronlund, Hannafin, Iskyan, Kuge, Laychak, Mojica, Nguyen, Ong, Pappalardo, Quigley, Retic, Shuyin, Tarrou, Vamsikrishna, Warchola, Yuguang, Zarba. Black, white, Hispanic, Arab, Indian, Chinese - in a word, American.

Whether or not one believes in "celebrating diversity", that's a lot of diversity to celebrate. But the Continent isn't multicultural so much as bicultural. There are ageing native populations, and young Muslim populations, and that's it: "two solitudes", as they say in my beloved Quebec. If there's three, four or more cultures, you can all hold hands and sing We are the World. But if there's just two - you and the other - that's generally more fractious. Bicultural societies are among the least stable in the world, especially once it's no longer quite clear who is the majority and who is the minority - a situation that much of Europe is fast approaching, as you can see by visiting any French, Austrian, Belgian or Dutch maternity ward.

Take Fiji - not a comparison France would be flattered by, though until 1987 the Fijians enjoyed a century of peaceful stable constitutional evolution the French were never able to muster. At any rate, Fiji comprises native Fijians and ethnic Indians brought in as indentured workers by the British. If memory serves, 46.2 per cent are Fijians and 48.6 per cent are Indo-Fijians; 50-50, give or take, with no intermarrying. In 1987, the first Indian-majority government came to power. A month later, Col Sitiveni Rabuka staged the first of his two coups, resulting in the Queen's removal as head of state and Fiji being expelled from the Commonwealth.

Is it that difficult to sketch a similar situation for France? Even in relatively peaceful bicultural societies, politics becomes tribal: loyalists vs nationalists in Northern Ireland, separatists vs federalists in Quebec. Picture a French election circa 2020, 2025: the Islamic Republican Coalition wins the most seats in the National Assembly. The Chiraquiste crowd give a fatalistic shrug and Mr de Villepin starts including crowd-pleasing suras from the Koran at his poetry recitals. But would Mr Le Pen or (by then) his daughter take it so well? Or would the temptation to be France's Col Rabuka prove too much?

And the Fijian scenario - a succession of bloodless coups - is the optimistic one. After all, the differences between Fijian natives and Indians are as nothing compared with those between the French and les beurs. I love the way those naysayers predicting doom and gloom in Baghdad scoff that Iraq's a totally artificial entity and that, without some Saddamite strongman, Kurds, Sunnis and Shias can't co-exist in the same state. Oh, really? If Iraq's an entirely artificial entity, what do you call a state split between gay drugged-up red-light whatever's-your-bag Dutchmen and anti-gay anti-whoring anti-everything-you-dig Muslims? If Kurdistan doesn't belong in Iraq, does Pornostan belong in the Islamic Republic of Holland?

In a democratic age, you can't buck demography - except through civil war. The Yugoslavs figured that out. In the 30 years before the meltdown, Bosnian Serbs had declined from 43 per cent to 31 per cent of the population, while Bosnian Muslims had increased from 26 per cent to 44 per cent.

So Europe's present biculturalism makes disaster a certainty. One way to avoid it would be to go genuinely multicultural, to broaden the Continent's sources of immigration beyond the Muslim world. But a talented ambitious Chinese or Indian or Chilean has zero reason to emigrate to France, unless he is consumed by a perverse fantasy of living in a segregated society that artificially constrains his economic opportunities yet imposes confiscatory taxation on him in order to support an ancien regime of indolent geriatrics.

France faces tough choices and, unlike Baghdad, in Paris you can't even talk about them honestly. As Jean-Claude Dassier, director-general of the French news station LCI, told a broadcasters' conference in Amsterdam, he has been playing down the riots on the following grounds: "Politics in France is heading to the Right and I don't want Right-wing politicians back in second or even first place because we showed burning cars on television."

Oh, well. You can understand why the Quai d'Orsay is relaxed about Iran becoming the second Muslim nuclear power. As things stand, France is on course to be the third. You heard it here first. You probably won't hear it on Mr Dassier's station at all.


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To: Pokey78

Could you add me to the Steyn ping list? THX


21 posted on 11/14/2005 2:38:44 PM PST by PMCarey
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To: Pokey78

bttt thanks


22 posted on 11/14/2005 2:39:37 PM PST by freeforall
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To: Pokey78
If Iraq's an entirely artificial entity, what do you call a state split between gay drugged-up red-light whatever's-your-bag Dutchmen and anti-gay anti-whoring anti-everything-you-dig Muslims? If Kurdistan doesn't belong in Iraq, does Pornostan belong in the Islamic Republic of Holland

That really paints a picture, doesn't it ?

23 posted on 11/14/2005 2:41:18 PM PST by Red Boots
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To: NZerFromHK

Sure!


24 posted on 11/14/2005 2:43:50 PM PST by Pokey78 (‘FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]’)
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To: Pokey78
a talented ambitious Chinese or Indian or Chilean has zero reason to emigrate to France, unless he is consumed by a perverse fantasy of living in a segregated society that artificially constrains his economic opportunities yet imposes confiscatory taxation on him in order to support an ancien regime of indolent geriatrics.
25 posted on 11/14/2005 2:44:15 PM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood (left unchecked, Saddam Hussein...will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

Done.


26 posted on 11/14/2005 2:44:54 PM PST by Pokey78 (‘FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]’)
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To: Pokey78

France is a quagmire ~ surrender, now!

Mark Steyn ~ Bump!


27 posted on 11/14/2005 2:45:06 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: PMCarey

Sure!


28 posted on 11/14/2005 2:45:55 PM PST by Pokey78 (‘FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]’)
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To: Pokey78

Thanks!!


29 posted on 11/14/2005 2:46:17 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Gritty

I get the same spine-tingling feeling myself--what in the hell will our children have to deal with if we do no face the music and quit calling Islam a religion of peace??


30 posted on 11/14/2005 2:46:23 PM PST by Tees Mom
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To: Red Boots

That was one of many incredible pictures painted by the genius Steyn in this piece. Bump!


31 posted on 11/14/2005 2:48:36 PM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties: Only 3 and 1/4 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: Fanter

None of the above.


32 posted on 11/14/2005 2:49:16 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Fanter

You could be the future Jeff Foxworthy. You just have to rephrase the question:

"If you can name two people who wrote poetry about seagulls...you might be a Frenchman".

"If you think that the most important piece of equipment that a soldier can have is a good set of running shoes...you might be a Frnchman."


33 posted on 11/14/2005 2:50:43 PM PST by kidd
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To: Paladin2
"So Europe's present biculturalism makes disaster a certainty. One way to avoid it would be to go genuinely multicultural, to broaden the Continent's sources of immigration beyond the Muslim world. But a talented ambitious Chinese or Indian or Chilean has zero reason to emigrate to France, unless he is consumed by a perverse fantasy of living in a segregated society that artificially constrains his economic opportunities yet imposes confiscatory taxation on him in order to support an ancien regime of indolent geriatrics.

Classic Steyn!!

34 posted on 11/14/2005 2:51:37 PM PST by bubman
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To: Pokey78
France faces tough choices and, unlike Baghdad, in Paris you can't even talk about them honestly. As Jean-Claude Dassier, director-general of the French news station LCI, told a broadcasters' conference in Amsterdam, he has been playing down the riots on the following grounds: "Politics in France is heading to the Right and I don't want Right-wing politicians back in second or even first place because we showed burning cars on television."

Sounds like CBS, right?

35 posted on 11/14/2005 2:53:40 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Red Boots; Pokey78
I see we're all sharing our favorite quotes from this article (loved "Pornistan," btw), so here's mine, regarding the demonstrations in Spain by the left after the Madrid bombings:

"united in sorrow" - i.e. enervated in passivity

Spain and many other EU countries are madly in love with these stupid demonstrations, which they do every time they are attacked by ETA, Muslim terrorists, or practically the next door neighbor's poodle. But really, "enervated in passivity" sums it up, because they feel that by getting out and whining they have actually done something. And maybe they have, because whining is the only thing they are capable of doing any longer.

36 posted on 11/14/2005 2:54:30 PM PST by livius
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To: Pokey78

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1521978/posts


37 posted on 11/14/2005 2:55:07 PM PST by Clemenza (Save My Life I'm Going Down for the Last Time)
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To: Pokey78

It's insane. People with means will flee, and the rest will convert to Islam or die.


38 posted on 11/14/2005 2:55:56 PM PST by hershey
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To: Pokey78

39 posted on 11/14/2005 2:56:19 PM PST by Clemenza (Save My Life I'm Going Down for the Last Time)
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To: Tees Mom

The people in charge today are the teenagers and early 20's kids of the sixties. By far this is the most narcissitic generation on record, and if the recent votes in Seattle and San Francisco don't bear this out, nothing does. This is not getting fixed anytime soon, by anyone.

Tom McClintock wrote a piece that was posted here about the California Special Election that nailed it on the head.


40 posted on 11/14/2005 2:57:13 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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