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We are in danger of forgetting that waiting comes before wanting (British Rabbi writes on Paris)
Times Online ^ | 11/12/2005 | Jonathan Sacks

Posted on 11/13/2005 1:16:07 PM PST by Uncledave

We are in danger of forgetting that waiting comes before wanting Credo by Jonathan Sacks THE scenes of France in flames have been disturbing — night after night of cars on fire, buildings ablaze, angry youth and embattled police.

This is not the first time we have seen how quickly societies can descend into chaos. It happened in the Netherlands after the murder of Theo van Gogh, in New Orleans after the hurricane and in the Lozells area of Birmingham during the recent riots. We are seeing the emergence of a new politics of anger.

The causes are simple: ethnic ghettos, immigrant enclaves, concentrations of poverty, unemployment and young people with strong feelings of exclusion and resentment.

We know also what will happen. There will be stronger policing; violence will become more sporadic; tempers will cool; measures will be taken. Lessons will be learnt. The attention of the media will turn elsewhere. Until the next time.

Yet it is hard not to feel that something serious is happening. Paris, Amsterdam, New Orleans and Birmingham are not the Balkans or the Middle East. If violence is in the air in the citadels of liberal democracy, alarms should be ringing.

At such times, scattered phenomena come together to produce a mood of foreboding. I think, for example, of the growing impatience with the political process. When television becomes more powerful than parliaments, people quickly realise that the newsworthy gesture gets you more attention than years of lobbying and representation. Violence becomes photo-opportunity.

Then there is the collapse of the concept of national belonging, the feeling that we are all in this together and that the distress of some of us is a matter for all of us. Far from being a means of integration, multiculturalism has become a path to segregation. There are fewer mixed neighbourhoods, more urban and suburban ghettos. The ties that bind grow ever weaker. The forces that divide become stronger year by year.

Our sense of time seems to be changing. We live in the moment, with little feeling of connection to a national past and a collective future. News comes to us in soundbites. We experience events less as chapters in a novel than as a series of music videos, disconnected images bound together by rhythm not narrative, pace not plot. We are losing the long-term prospective that alone allows us to make sense of events and feel we are part of a collective story.

I first noticed the change when credit cards were born, one of which was advertised as “taking the waiting out of wanting”. I recalled Freud’s definition of civilisation as the capacity to defer the gratification of instinct. Society depends on waiting as well as wanting.

Language suggests a connection between these things. Think of the words “political” and “polite”, “urban” and “urbane”, “civilisation” and “civility” all derived from Greek or Latin words for “city”, the place where strangers come together to live and trade. They remind us of the myriad habits of self-imposed restraint that alone allow people of different faiths and customs to live together graciously. Cultures built on anger cannot survive.

This is where we need the wisdom of the past. One of the most striking features of the Hebrew Bible is the way it distinguishes between state and society. The ancient Israelites became a state when the prophet Samuel, at the request of the people and with the permission of God, anointed Saul as King, turning the people from a loose collection of tribes into a monarchy.

The Israelites became a society, however, 400 years earlier when they stood at the foot of Mount Sinai and received their constitution as a nation under the sovereignty of God. You have to build a society before you can have a state. States exist by reason of power. Societies exist through a shared moral code and a sense of collective responsibility. The symbols of states are palaces and parliaments. The institutions of society are families, neighbourhoods, communities and schools.

For some years now we have been living under the illusion that you can have a state without a society, politics without politeness, civilisation without civility. You can’t.

There is no shortcut that allows us to bypass the long, slow task of society-building; integrating minorities, creating a shared sense of history and destiny and cultivating a national conversation in which each of us has a voice. Otherwise the prospects are dark. When conversation ends, violence begins.

Rabbi Sir Jonathan Sacks is the Chief Rabbi of the United Hebrew Congregations of the Commonwealth


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: borders; civilization; culture; immigration; sovereignty

1 posted on 11/13/2005 1:16:10 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: Uncledave
Three guesses what evil the good rabbi didn't address.

Leni

2 posted on 11/13/2005 1:20:09 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Uncledave

How long can any civilization endure when its elites no longer believe in it? How long can we succeed when the elites not only refuse to replenish the moral capital of their civilization, but do all they can to devalue what remains?


3 posted on 11/13/2005 1:22:28 PM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: Uncledave

"The causes are simple: ethnic ghettos, immigrant enclaves, concentrations of poverty, unemployment and young people with strong feelings of exclusion and resentment."

This is as far as I could go.

Where is the mention of "natural disaster" (re Katrina and NO)?

Should I have read further?


4 posted on 11/13/2005 1:26:56 PM PST by wingman1 (University of Vietnam 1970. Forget? Hell.)
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To: wingman1

He does have salient points. Not a bad read overall, especially that part where he uses the analogy on Israel being a society (with shared morals and propriety once they received the commandments) long before it became a state (with the annointing of Saul as king).


5 posted on 11/13/2005 1:45:42 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: wingman1

I made it all the way to the next sentence, that was far enough.

It's Bush's fault and the greedy conservitve's in America. blah, blah, blah.

If being poor was a reason to riot, America would have burned to the ground in the 30's.


6 posted on 11/13/2005 1:46:06 PM PST by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: wingman1
This is as far as I could go.

I know what you're thinking, but keep reading. It's not a piece that cries victimhood.

7 posted on 11/13/2005 1:50:52 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: stockpirate

" I made it all the way to the next sentence, that was far enough.
It's Bush's fault and the greedy conservitve's in America. blah, blah, blah.
If being poor was a reason to riot, America would have burned to the ground in the 30's."

Yah, but it did get better. The Rabbi finally made his way to talking about what it means to live in a society, with a shared culture, shared values. I bet it is a painful dawning for him (the Reb)as he is inching his way to admitting that some great measure of assimilation is necessary where cultures collide; "assimilation" is a curse word to him, I'm sure.

I agree with you about the 1930's!!!! Also, I was thinking the Rabbi could have been talking about Jewish ghettos, as well (isolated,etc)-- how often have they rioted!?

No, I think Tony Blankley (spelling?) had it right, in his book, "The Last Best Hope of the West ..." The RadMus teach their young that they are superior to infideldom, and thus can exploit it and exterminate it.


8 posted on 11/13/2005 2:16:49 PM PST by Anselma
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To: MinuteGal

I agree that the Islam of the rioters is a dominant
factor in the French situation. However, the .uk
seems to have been developing its own underclass
even without immigration from abroad.


9 posted on 11/13/2005 2:51:41 PM PST by cycjec (doesn't teach or inspire or compel them to think things throughu)
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To: Uncledave

"The causes are simple: ethnic ghettos, immigrant enclaves, concentrations of poverty, unemployment and young people with strong feelings of exclusion and resentment."

Here's where he especially confused me. Is he talking about the Jewish ghettos throughout European and Russian history??? Yah, like they rioted all over the place. -Not. ;)


10 posted on 11/14/2005 6:02:00 AM PST by Anselma
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To: timsbella

"How long can any civilization endure when its elites no longer believe in it? How long can we succeed when the elites not only refuse to replenish the moral capital of their civilization, but do all they can to devalue what remains?"

You said it. In a nutshell. Well said.

This is why I celebrate the idea that the Net will "level the playing field" both in news gathering/interpreting and in "higher" education- who needs to go into $40,000 per year debt X 4 or more years, in order to learn how to parrot the PC lines? Esp'y when you can turn on, tune in, and get a much broader, truer education via the Net???? It's coming. The only reason for going through a liberal arts "education" will be a "social" one- like it pretty much used to be (to become "well-rounded"!!!). But I digress ...


11 posted on 11/14/2005 6:13:55 AM PST by Anselma
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To: timsbella
Insightful:

How long can any civilization endure when its elites no longer believe in it? How long can we succeed when the elites not only refuse to replenish the moral capital of their civilization, but do all they can to devalue what remains?

12 posted on 11/14/2005 6:18:17 AM PST by GOPJ (Frenchmen should ask immigrants "Do you want to be Frenchmen?" not, "Will you work cheap?")
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