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Generational war is brewing
Tracey Press ^ | 11/10/05 | Froma Harrop

Posted on 11/10/2005 1:22:46 PM PST by qam1

America should prepare for a big fat war between the generations. It’s going to be ugly.

On one side is the baby boom generation, which retires and claims a ton of government benefits. On the other are younger workers, forced to fund those benefits plus pay the bills their elders left them.

When the war comes, the Federal Reserve chairman will have to be a general. That person will likely be Bush nominee Ben Bernanke. The question is, for which side will he fight?

Outgoing Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan tried to represent both sides. He supported the Bush tax cuts.

This gave comfort to today’s taxpayers, who chose not to charge themselves for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the new Medicare drug benefit and the quarter-billion-dollar bridge to nowhere.

Last spring, Greenspan did service for the other side. “I fear that we may have already committed more physical resources to the baby boom generation in its retirement years than our economy has the capacity to deliver,” he said.

One solution would be to ramp-up means-testing for Medicare, the health insurance plan for the elderly. Greenspan would reconfigure the program “to be relatively generous to the poor and stingy to the rich.”

The political reality is that the baby boom generation expects to see the nice government handouts its retired parents enjoyed, and then some. Younger workers expect to be taxed at today’s lower rates. One group will be very disappointed — or perhaps both groups — because there is no way the Candyland economics of today can go on.

The whole alarming future is nicely mapped out in a book, “The Coming Generational Storm,” by Boston University economist Laurence Kotlikoff and Scott Burns, a personal-finance columnist at The Dallas Morning News.

Kotlikoff and Burns clearly sympathize with younger Americans and Americans not yet born, who will be paying both our bills and their own. “Does it feel better,” the authors write, “if those unknown victims of our rapacity are someone else’s children and the children of those children and the children of those children of those children?”

Sounds like war to me. Kotlikoff and Burns try to be meticulously nonpartisan, but I won’t. Though the irresponsible policymaking spanned decades, today’s mad deficits rush us closer to disaster. Democrats are not shy about pushing for retiree benefits, but at least they consider raising taxes to pay for them. Not the current crowd, whose spend-and-borrow strategy is the 1919 Versailles Treaty of this-century America: an unstable setup that guarantees future conflict.

The scam is that the tax cuts are not really wiping the nation’s slate clean of tax obligations. When spending exceeds tax revenues, the difference must be borrowed. That debt does not disappear. It gets paid for, with interest, by someone’s taxes. So the Bush cuts simply move the taxes from one generation of shoulders to another.

Bernanke would certainly come to the Fed job with good credentials. Head of the president’s Council of Economic Advisers, he formerly chaired the Princeton economics department. Bernanke seems OK, but other candidates were more upfront about deficits.

One was Martin Feldstein, President Ronald Reagan’s top economic adviser. Feldstein drew flak for criticizing the Reagan deficits. The Bush White House wouldn’t want to hear that kind of thing. Anyway, there’s no need to worry about making ends meet when you can use the next generation’s credit card.

Another Republican contender for the Fed job was Larry Lindsey. He was fired as a Bush adviser in 2002, after predicting that the war in Iraq would cost up to $200 billion, a figure already passed. Lindsey did not understand: One simply does not talk price in the Bush administration.

Given the president’s tendency to give top jobs to those closest, we can give thanks that he did not nominate his banker brother. Neil Bush played a major role in the Silverado Savings & Loan fiasco of the 1980s, which cost taxpayers $1 billion.

Or perhaps the president was doing the big-brotherly thing in protecting Neil from a job sure to be filled with strife.

The person who heads the Fed in the next decade will be trying to steer the nation through the perfect economic storm. Good luck to the new chairman, and to all the generations.


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KEYWORDS: babyboomers; catfightingasses; generationalwar; generationgap; genx; greedygeezers
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To: Myrddin
I walked to school in the snow over several miles in winter myself in NY with my sister starting at the age of 5-6. That was just life.

True, if the parents that time could have afforded more than, perhaps my sister and I could have arrived in school in a more appropriate manner.


421 posted on 11/10/2005 7:17:01 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Myrddin

None of that is a surprise to me, and I've repeatedly said that there are some boomers who did do the right thing. I've also noted that there were more who did not. None of what you said contradicts that. I know the general history of the Vietnam war. How does this change the behavior of boomers who fled overseas and turned universities into enemy strongholds, those who created the perpetual anti-war movement and still staff it to this day in farcical attempts to replay that war? And then we have the John Kerrys and Al Gores who did go to Vietnam and still ended up traitors to the nation afterwards.


422 posted on 11/10/2005 7:21:14 PM PST by thoughtomator (Bring Back HUAC!)
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To: RadioAstronomer
In fact my very first computer was an S-100 computer that had a hand wire-wrapped backplane with each chip individually soldered into their respective daughter boards that I had to custom interface to a surplus teletype. When you say you fix your own computer, does that mean you only pull and plug boards? Fix to me is using a logic probe to find the bad IC and replace it. Anything else is just pop and swap IMHO.

I was late to the party. My first computer was a Heathkit H-8. I built it from parts. It still works today. I did wire-wrap my first bit-mapped graphics board and wrote all the driver software for HDOS to make it run.

423 posted on 11/10/2005 7:25:25 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: A CA Guy

Many children went hungry, they lived on Potatoes potato soup Potato everything so they would feel full
No welfare or Social Security back then, Many people dirt poor.


424 posted on 11/10/2005 7:26:47 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: winodog
But, but I can wipe a hard drive clean with software and reinstall everything just like it was before.

Me too. :-)

425 posted on 11/10/2005 7:26:52 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: A CA Guy
I think the 50,000 dead boomers were made so in part by the enemy with a big assist from the leftist boomers stateside in the press.

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Let's see, the Tet Offensive, after which 'greatest generation' icon Walter Cronkite announced that the war was lost, took place in February 1968. At that time the oldest boomer was 22. By the time the 'greatest generation' abandoned Viet Nam the oldest boomer was 27. The tens of thousands of boomers killed in VN (avg age - 19) died in a war started, mis-managed and then abandonded by 'greatest generation' leaders elected by 'greatest generation' voters. You have opinions but they are not supported by the calendar or the facts.

426 posted on 11/10/2005 7:28:59 PM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: thoughtomator

If you have the answers, maybe you should go to some of the VA hospitals and tell the Vietnam Vets why they were drafted into that war..


427 posted on 11/10/2005 7:30:40 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: laney
Yes, it was possible their parents did not seek help in hand outs from a local church, neighbors or families.

Before the times you talk of there was the great dust bowl across much of America where also many had to leave various regions for different areas to support their families.

There have always been charities for meals and I would for all meals like to see charities handling them instead of any food stamps today.
I'd rather they see the hand that feeds them and be grateful instead of expecting it like some birthright.
428 posted on 11/10/2005 7:31:54 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: All

WOW!

It seems the author is correct. There is a war between the generations, at least mentally.


429 posted on 11/10/2005 7:33:21 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: wtc911
I was thinking more about Nam, where many were lost that didn't need to be and where a nation was abandoned because the will of the people was destroyed by the press which were mostly all leftists and boomers, especially in the print press and at that time people read the news.
430 posted on 11/10/2005 7:34:06 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

And sadder still we are all freepers. You would think we would be all on the same side.

Sigh.


431 posted on 11/10/2005 7:34:09 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: A CA Guy

I agree with you on that...I think all people on welfare should be guaranteed a job and have to work in some of these hurricaine stricken areas..if they won't no more welfare..


432 posted on 11/10/2005 7:34:40 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: CompSciGuy
I proudly present my derriere for your ministrations.
433 posted on 11/10/2005 7:35:27 PM PST by sarasmom ("The French are revolting." Some phrases are true on so many levels, it's mystical!)
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To: A CA Guy

The country was divided because Young Men were being DRAFTED and had no idea why they were fighting a War far from HOME in the Jungles of Vietnam...


434 posted on 11/10/2005 7:37:47 PM PST by laney (little bit country,little bit Rock and Roll!)
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To: laney
I frankly wouldn't blame many of them to stay away in places like Texas and to use the new opportunity to keep their new jobs to sustain their families.

If it is possible that those on assistance can service a disaster area without really jeopardizing their own health, sure, like cleaning trash off the street, why not?
435 posted on 11/10/2005 7:38:02 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: qam1

You think it's bad here, just give France another 20 years, when almost all the old pensioners will be white French and most of the taxpayers will be North African muslims.


436 posted on 11/10/2005 7:40:06 PM PST by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: jwalsh07
I'm feeling all of my 54 years tonight.

I hear ya. :-)

437 posted on 11/10/2005 7:40:37 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: laney
I know lots of vets from that war and many were more perturbed that there was seemingly no will to win it.

It was a politically infected war instead of a straight out military war and that more than anything betrayed some soldiers and those in Nam that fought with us.

Many people were toughened by that war to take on many professions. I know lots of CEOs, doctors, professional athletes who served that got their discipline from the military, at least according to what they tell me.
Some were shot up and never took their purple hearts because they saw people who lost a limb. Very UN-John Kerry, God bless them.

Many were introduced to excessive drinking and recreational drug abuse and those types had lots of stalled lives when they came back.

438 posted on 11/10/2005 7:43:20 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Myrddin
I was late to the party. My first computer was a Heathkit H-8. I built it from parts. It still works today. I did wire-wrap my first bit-mapped graphics board and wrote all the driver software for HDOS to make it run.

Whoohoo! I still not only have my S-100, but I still have an H-8/H-9. :-) Mine still works as well. However, the floppy drives need to be realigned. (CP/M rocks! LOL)

439 posted on 11/10/2005 7:43:29 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Palisades
You can refuse to admit it all you want, but previous generations didn't work all that hard. Working 9-5 was standard. Nobody, except government bureaucrats, work such easy hours anymore.

I've worked full time since 1976 and NEVER worked 9-5. The tuna fleet work typically consumed my time from 7 AM to 9 PM M-F and some weekends as necessary. My initial work at PacBell was engineering. A nice 7:50 AM to 4:20 PM M-F job that left me time to teach school T/Th from 6:30 PM to 10 PM. When I moved to the computer side of the house, 7 AM to 7 PM was a normal schedule...no overtime pay...straight salary.

My dad spent YEARS at sea. Not exactly 9-5 office work.

440 posted on 11/10/2005 7:43:53 PM PST by Myrddin
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