Posted on 11/10/2005 10:24:15 AM PST by jveritas
The tone on FR is very demoralized. Liberals and their media unfortunately have succeeded in demoralizing a large number of freepers. From their constant savage attacks on the President and the Republican Party with lies and distortions, to their biased polls, to blaming the President for everything under the sun, many freepers are feeling very demoralized. They are further demoralized because President Bush is not fighting back, because the RINOS in Congress are screwing thing up for the President agenda. Add to that a huge numbers of trolls who infiltrated FR in 2004 and 2005 to divide and demoralize by creating doom and gloom, and piling on the President and the GOP.
So what are the solutions for the demoralization problem?
(1) Stop the knee jerk reaction every time the liberal media write an article telling us that President Bush and the GOP are finished. Stop taking every biased poll as the end of all. No doubt that the President approval is down but no doubt that the polls are so biased to take 6 or 7 points more from his approval numbers. Never before we have had so many polls coming in an off election year and the reason for this is very simple. The media is doing all these biased polls to demoralize the Republican base and it is succeeding to some degree as we see from the knee jerk reaction of many freepers. The media is taking any event that is happening and distort it with the most negative spin to demoralize us. Rather than falling for the media lies, distortions and very negative spin we must take anything they write or say turn it around on them and destroy all their lies and spin.
(2) Ask the White House to fight back the lies and distortions of liberal and their media whores. How do we do this? Demand replacing Scott Maclelan? Besides new junkies like us how many people listen to Scott Maclelan? Ask the President to hold a press conference every week to expose the lies liberals and their media? Do you want the President to spend his time fighting every lie and distortion made by liberals and their media? How can we guarantee that the media will cover what the President is saying or what any of his spoke people are saying? Can they just ignore what is he saying?
(3) Put pressure on the RINOS to stop screwing the President agenda. How do we do this? Ask the White to twist their arms? What if the RINOS say to the White House Screw you? Ask the GOP leadership in Congress to twist their arms? What if the RINOS also tell them Screw you?
(4) Purge the trolls who infiltrated FR in large numbers in 2004 and 2005. These trolls are not necessarily someone who spread Dummy crap on FR. They put on a phony conservative mask and bash the President and the GOP on every occasion. Their main goal is to divide and demoralize. Their job is to spread doom and gloom. Purging these guys can stop a lot of the infighting and the demoralization that is going on. We need to report these trolls to the mods and do not let them get away with this.
Your thread about elections and others have additional side benefits that most haven't considered yet!
It's going to be fun in a week to review these and see how many DUers exposed themselves by all the needless negative posting. :-)
Funny thing is the fact that most DUmmies didn't have any love for F'n Kerry. They only voted for him because that's who the democrats gave them.
Our problem simply reflects the danger of incumbency, and that is the tendency to go on the defensive and start maintaining a status quo mindset.
What we need to be doing is getting the aggressive mindset back. Picking liberal and democratic targets, and making their lives miserable again. Go on the offensive.
LOL, ain't that the truth.
I think you are reading too much into the moods of some doom and gloomers.
You know, the ONES that live the myth that Conservatives are NATURAL pessimists...
We are still considered a grass roots activist group but the level of real activism has declined to the point that many don't even realize what can be done. Outside of the DC Chapter and the other city chapters with in the streets activities the is no activism of which I am aware.
This lack of direction and purpose results in apathy and complacency.
Any activity would be good. A fax campaign to notify Rokefeller who claimed he was an American citizen that it has been revoked by popular demand.
Chasing out all who disagree with your views is not the way to win elections.
I say we need more "Could be worse. Could be helen thomas" threads. I know it's a worse case scenario, but it always uplifts me when I am confronted by her picture. Somehow I find the strength to pull myself up and try harder. Smile more, wash my hair regularly, shave my legs, visit the Merle Norman counter. I don't want to end up like her. Demented, depraved, demoralized, and drop-dead ugly.
This is a good point. 2005 was the first year since 1998 in which the left did not lose ground. They should be celebrating. The hemorrhaging has, for at least a year, stopped. Also, five years of relentless Old Media attacks on the President have hurt. The Old Media still has some life left and they are using their power with vengeance.
OTOH, we always take it in the neck between even year elections because of the Old Media monopoly (during that period) on news and setting issues. Then election time comes around, we buy airtime and remind the voters what the left is really about. The polls change.
Furthermore, all they are celebrating is that the left stopped losing ground. The likely results in 2006 are we hold the house with a slighly reduced majority and we lose one seat net in the Senate. But the net loss is Lincoln Chafee. Big deal. He's more left than half of the dems in the Senate.
If the incumbents don't suffer big setbacks in the off-year election in the second term of a president, that is a BIG victory. That means we have broken the left's serve and that the country is probably a slightly Red country for some time to come.
I'll take that and come back to fight again in 2008.
Worth repeating, with empahsis:
Somebody mistakenly believes that FR is a GOP site.
a chicken little forum or topic area at FR ..
long overdue here.. ;-)
I agree. I think the point has been made lately to the team that conservative principles are successful. CINO's will fail to steer the public at large because compromising with liberals always fails horribly.
Whats yer poison? Bud? Miller? Coors Lite?
You have to understand how the game is played.
In an election, your choice is not to choose the perfect candidate but the better candidate -- or run yourself, and see how popular your position is -- since you presumably claim to speak for others.
And that is the crime of today's mainstream media -- is that they are not asking us what we think -- but telling us what to think by their phony polls, bogus experts, and manipulation of the news and opinions. These abuses are not isolated incidents but is the heart and soul of contemporary mainstream media.
This media would like us dignifying their deceptions and accusations by arguing them as though they were established facts -- rather than ignoring them and tending to the real work and battles. It's the tactic used by the tabloid newspapers; they print these outrageous stories knowing that people with full lives can't spend all day defending themselves against every asshole opinion -- or their lives are controlled by the others, and every other.
If you've ever been successful at anything -- or been in public life, you'll find others eager to tear one down in every way they can imagine, as their personal vendetta, personal obsession, their own claim to fame. You can't cure all the mental illness in the world -- personally, even if you're the President.
Hhmmm...
I think he's on to something.
Practicing conservatism is the way to win elections, as Reagan knew. Compromising with pseudo-sophisticate socialist ideas is the way to lose elections, as Bush the Elder may now know.
Here's your post:
I read your vanity and wonder what drugs you are taking.
Even here in California where nothing in the way of propositions passed we are seeing a major victory with a great victory coming in 2006.
The democrats/employee government unions have just spent all their money and borrowed all kinds of money playing defense against the propositions and they are now BROKE.
Way to go Arnold, even Ronald Reagan lost to the unions this way 38 years ago in California and came back to become President, to bring on the Reagan revolution and to collapse the evil empire.
Well, Arnold and the conservatives of California are fighting our own version of the evil empire and they just spent away their futures in 2005 and are extremely exposed for 2006.
All we have to do is put again all kinds of propositions on the ballot and we will divide and conquer.
The Democrats need union money and there is little.
The unions need to defend any propositions against them in defense and they are much broker for 2006.
Time to put a stake through their political hearts in 2006 and to enjoy their defeat.
We need only place the propositions on the ballots and moderately show up and they lose.
I'm pumped, so your vanity need not apply to California, thanks! :-)
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