Posted on 11/10/2005 4:40:11 AM PST by SJackson
As the French intifada spreads into its second week and across the country, the French government has a dilemma. To whom does it surrender?
French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin whose name may one day be as synonymous with appeasement as Petain's is with collaboration would like to make a deal.
His problem is finding Muslim "community leaders" who can stop the rioting. In communities where law and order are absent, it is thugs with guns who are in charge, not the voices of moderation, such as they are.
The rioting began Oct. 27th in the Paris suburb of Clichy sus Bois when two Muslim teenagers sought to hide from police in an electric power substation and accidentally electrocuted themselves. It has since spread to other Paris suburbs, to Paris itself, and now to dozens of other cities.
The remarkable thing about the spark that set off the rioting is that there were police in Clichy sus Bois for the youths to flee from. About ten percent of France's population are Muslims. The overwhelming majority live in concrete ghettoes like Clichy sus Bois, which the police as well as ordinary Frenchmen tend to treat as "no go" areas.
The result is these ghettoes are largely under the control of criminal gangs and religious extremists.
The news media have gone to considerable lengths to avoid mentioning the rioters are mostly Muslim, or to report that there is an anti-Western component to the violence. The rioters typically have been described as "French youths" who are upset by high unemployment and racial discrimination.
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Oh no, he's just providing the irony.
Bull
There is no rationale, it's the demands of some thugs knowing that threatening more violence will scare the hell out of the French government. They've got Chirac/de Villepine over the proverbial barrel. De Villepine is already promising 20,000 jobs (the French unions will love that), a new non-discrimination bureau, and umpteen gazillion Euros for the Muslims to basically do anything they want with.
The world has watched in amazement as the French government continues to let these riots go on, and only making a few hundred arrests, deporting 120 foreigners, and maybe giving 2 to 4 month jail sentences to the rest.
BTW, I highly recomomend today's Mark Stein thread: Stein.
"Now go back to that bland statistic you hear a lot these days: about 10 per cent of Frances population is Muslim. Give or take a million here, a million there, thats broadly correct, as far as it goes. But the population spread isnt even. And when it comes to those living in France aged 20 and under, about 30 per cent are said to be Muslim and in the major urban centres about 45 per cent. If it came down to street-by-street fighting, as Michel Gurfinkiel, the editor of Valeurs Actuelles, points out, the combatant ratio in any ethnic war may thus be one to one already, right now, in 2005."
What are these "associations" I keep hearing about, that will be receiving money from the French government?
Lose the attitude. I didn't agree with their demands for independence, I simply observed that they are & summarized how they got there.
What bull? Simple fact is that those "north African" immigrants & offspring are largely segregated (much by their own choice) into walled ghettos. You have different facts?
Yes, it is my understanding that they are segregated buy thier own choice, and the communities are not walled in. You make it sound like it is French poicy to force muslim immigrates to live in near prison/concentration camp like conditions. That is not thbe case.
Don't be so sure. There are already hints that the French government is considering the establishment of semi-autonomous enclaves run by Muslim elders. Actually, it is essentially already the case. Once this policy has become official, the Islamic clerics will likely demand that religious practice become policy all over the nation. For example, French restaurants and shops would have to close during daylight hours during Ramadan. That would make France a protected nation under Islamic law, and would cause them to become immune from jihadist activity (i.e., terrorism). Whether the French people accept such an arrangement remains to be seen. I think the elites in that country would welcome such an arrangement. Why should the sons of Vichy act any different than the father?
you observed that it is French policy to put them into segrated sections of the city.
I didn't say that.
Don't read what isn't there.
I'll agree the "and" is ambiguous about whether the closing noun applies to both verbs or only the last verb.
Whether it is Frecnch policy is also ambiguous.
Ok, I must have misunderstook you. My bad.
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