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Board Puts Religious Holidays Back On School Calendar
tbo.com ^ | November 9, 2005 | MARILYN BROWN

Posted on 11/09/2005 3:15:04 AM PST by mlc9852

TAMPA -- In the most contentious school board meeting in years, five Hillsborough County School Board members voted Tuesday night to restore Good Friday, Easter Monday and Yom Kippur to the 2006-07 school calendar.

The decision was "bittersweet," said a spokesman for the Muslim community, whose request to recognize one of their holy days ignited the public debate.

"It is a temporary solution," said Ahmed Bedier, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations. "We've been adamant the last two weeks that we would give up on our request for a holiday so the other religions won't lose theirs."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: schoolboard; secularization

1 posted on 11/09/2005 3:15:04 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
"It is a temporary solution," said Ahmed Bedier, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations. "We've been adamant the last two weeks that we would give up on our request for a holiday so the other religions won't lose theirs."

Goebbels (sp?) is dancing a jig in hell ... he knew the power of the repeated word/phrase/idea and initiated a cancer that, in our time is stage three, at least.

Ahmed is correct ... it is temporary ... unless we Americans can reclaim the clout of the media.

This is not an original idea, but ... a caller on the Quinn show stated he was afraid of anything Muslim.
The scarf, the veiled women, the word Islam, etc., and wondered if a class action could be brought against an entire religion because he was so in fear that he could not do his job, or think straight, etc.

If the aging communist leftover union can bring suit against a cross on a logo, why can't we bring suit aginst Islam?

2 posted on 11/09/2005 3:32:27 AM PST by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: mlc9852
I am glad "the people" are finally willing to stand-up for their rights. Both in the matter of separation of church and state vs. freedom of religion. The state cannot support one religion over the other and it cannot interfere with your right to practice said religion.

The school district had/has a policy to allow students unpenalized timeoff to attend to religious matters. It is not obligated to matter of religion beyond that. The school board were a bunch of wussies last night as they would not even support the PC-law of the land. Good on the parents and people who tried to stop the egregious actions.
3 posted on 11/09/2005 3:37:09 AM PST by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: mlc9852

A few thoughts about all this:
-What day(s) did they want and what do they celebrate?
-There must be dozens of religions in Tampa. Do they all get a holiday? Do they have to represent a certain proportion of the population to get holiday?
-It would be a lot more palatable if Muslim leaders would publicly condemn terrorism. I mean, is there such a thing as a moderate Muslim?
-I hope the new Supreme Court can restore some sense to "Congress shall make no laws respecting religion...". (They need to recognize that the word "Congress" is in 1st Ammendment.)
As I wrote this I came up with my answer based on the results of the following questionaire:
1. In 1968, Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated in Los Angeles by (a) Superman, (b) Jay Leno, (c) Harry Potter, or (d) a Muslim man between 17 and 40 years old.

2. In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were kidnapped and killed at the Munich Olympics by (a) Olga Corbett, (b) Sitting Bull, (c) Arnold Schwarzenegger, or (d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

3. In 1979, the U.S. Embassy in Tehran was taken over and 90 Americans were held for 444 days by (a) Sen. Strom Thurmond, (b) Elvis, (c) a tour group of Minnesota grandmothers, or (d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

4. During the 1980s, several Americans were kidnapped in Beirut by (a) John Dillinger, (b) the king of Sweden, (c) the pope and a gang of Cardinals, or (d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

5. In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Lebanon was blown up, killing 220 Marines, by (a) a Domino's Pizza delivery man, (b) the president of the Southern Baptist Convention, (c) Catherine Zeta-Jones, or (d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

6. In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70-year-old American passenger thrown overboard in his wheelchair by (a) Davy Jones, (b) Brooks Robinson, (c) the Little Mermaid, or (d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

7. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens and a U.S. Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by (a) Captain Kangaroo, (b) William Jennings Bryan, (c) Mother Teresa, or (d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

9. In 2001, four airplanes were hijacked and flown into buildings killings over 3,000 people by (a) Bill Clinton, (b) Al Capone, (c) John Dillinger, or (d) Muslims between 17 and 40.

For me, no, I'm not ready to celebrate Muslimhood.


4 posted on 11/09/2005 3:54:41 AM PST by libertylover (Abortion is a crime against humanity.)
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To: mlc9852
Muslim representatives had asked the board for a day off to observe Eid al-Fitr, a holy day marking the end of Ramadan.

Tough. Celebrate your barbaric religion in a third world sh!thole. Islam cannot be reconciled with a free society. It's great to see locals stand up for western, Christian, US tradition.

5 posted on 11/09/2005 3:56:05 AM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: mlc9852

If we are going to be forced to have government schooling we must remain in control of them. It's simply the old concept of "whose in charge here?". School boards don't like it when parents remind them that they work for us. The Holidays on the calendar are our holidays. We will have them called what we choose.


6 posted on 11/09/2005 4:02:53 AM PST by n230099
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To: EBH
The state cannot support one religion over the other and it cannot interfere with your right to practice said religion.

If a religion advocated slave status of women before men, rule of the US through the medieval caliphate, and dhimmi status for non-believers, would that be protected religious expression?

7 posted on 11/09/2005 4:06:30 AM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: mlc9852

Can someone enlighten me here? I'm in Canada - schools take off stat holidays and all of those are Christian or government days. If my children were in a public school, I would have to write a note to excuse them for Rosh Hoshannah and Yom Kippur. Are these days actually vacation for all kids in your schools?


8 posted on 11/09/2005 4:15:55 AM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: Jacquerie
With much regret, it is currently supported here in the US in every mosque where we fear to tread, in every enclave and borough. To deny it exists here is to sign our own death warrants.

As I have previously written extensively here on FR regarding the PC-logic twisting that is placing our fate into the hands of a theocracy, so to was my previous post a bit of chastisement with sarcasm.
9 posted on 11/09/2005 4:16:35 AM PST by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: libertylover

"For me, no, I'm not ready to celebrate Muslimhood."

Exactly. When they are living in their own countries, they can take their OWN holidays off. And in THEIR countries, you can bet they don't celebrate OUR holidays. When in Rome . . .


10 posted on 11/09/2005 4:32:52 AM PST by Old Grumpy
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To: timsbella

Some US school districts DO schedule vacations for the Jewish holy days. Two a year, as I recall. It's a local decision.


11 posted on 11/09/2005 4:35:46 AM PST by pettifogger
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To: mlc9852
My Wife suggested, give students 4 "floaters", similar to what businesses do. They could use these days as they please.
12 posted on 11/09/2005 4:37:49 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: EBH
I am glad "the people" are finally willing to stand-up for their rights. Both in the matter of separation of church and state vs. freedom of religion. The state cannot support one religion over the other and it cannot interfere with your right to practice said religion.

The school district had/has a policy to allow students unpenalized timeoff to attend to religious matters. It is not obligated to matter of religion beyond that. The school board were a bunch of wussies last night as they would not even support the PC-law of the land. Good on the parents and people who tried to stop the egregious actions.

I live in the Tampa Bay area. The people here are furious with the school board on this issue. The parents basically told the school board that they don't care what CAIR does. This is America and it was founded on Christian Judeo values. Put the holidays back and leave off the muslim ones or not a single one of you will ever be elected to any office ever again. I could not beleive that even the staunch democrats I know sad that about American values!

13 posted on 11/09/2005 4:42:20 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: wolfcreek

I think that's an excellent and generous suggestion. I get three personal days at work which I use for same as do my counterparts of other faiths. Works like a charm.


14 posted on 11/09/2005 4:44:50 AM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: timsbella
Can someone enlighten me here? I'm in Canada - schools take off stat holidays and all of those are Christian or government days. If my children were in a public school, I would have to write a note to excuse them for Rosh Hoshannah and Yom Kippur. Are these days actually vacation for all kids in your schools?

I'm originally from Canada and I can rememeber growing up and having Easter Monday and Good Friday off, way back in the 70's. In Tampa, the public schools still have those as designated holidays. And they have have a Jewish Holiday off, too. From what I remember, Canada did away with those holidaysjust like they tried to do here. The difference is that the people here take their Christian heritage very seriously and will fight the government on decisions like that and they don't care if poor muslims have their feelings hurt. Unlike what I've heard has happened to Canada.

15 posted on 11/09/2005 4:47:16 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: libertylover

Good list. Add the tunnel bombings of the Trade Towers, the U.S. Kohl and the bombing of our embassys in Africa.


16 posted on 11/09/2005 4:51:44 AM PST by randita
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To: knarf
Achmed and his fellow head cutters at CAIR and in the Bay Area mosques expected the Christians in Hillsborough County to just roll over and do nothing while their holidays were stripped away, especially since they had the Tampa Tribune, the St. Pete Times and all of the Bay Area TV media outlets carrying their water for them. Especially Daniel Ruth at the Tribune - he was non-stop and way over the line in mocking and demeaning Christians and basically telling them to just STFU.

I'm sure that CAIR and the ACLU are huddling right about now, looking at their options in getting this in front of a pet judge on a liberal state or federal court.

17 posted on 11/09/2005 11:15:23 AM PST by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: CFC__VRWC
This morning, Jim Quinn put it fairly succinct ...

First get here, then gather as a group, then become/take over property (A town in Michigan comes to mind), then use our laws against us.

Yoo betcha' they're huddling.

If the ACLU never got paid win or lose, I wonder if they would even consider this $h!t.

18 posted on 11/09/2005 3:00:36 PM PST by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: mlc9852

later read/maybe ping.


19 posted on 11/09/2005 3:26:20 PM PST by little jeremiah
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