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Bill Could Ban Smoking In Car With Kids
ClickonDetroit ^ | November 8, 2005 | AP

Posted on 11/08/2005 12:52:05 PM PST by ShadowDancer

Bill Could Ban Smoking In Car With Kids

Studies Show Secondhand Smoke Impairs Respiratory Health

POSTED: 11:14 am EST November 8, 2005

LANSING, Mich. -- Smoky car rides to school may soon be illegal.

Using a lit tobacco product in a vehicle with a person under 18 would be a civil infraction under a bill to be formally introduced Tuesday by Rep. John Moolenaar, spokesman John Whetstone said.

"We've all seen it on our streets and highways, children in the back seat, smokers in the front, and your heart just goes out to those kids," said Moolenaar, R-Midland.

The bill would allow police officers to pull over drivers who are smoking with children in the car, Whetstone said. A fine for the infraction would be set by the courts.

Several studies indicate that secondhand smoke causes lung cancer in adult nonsmokers and impairs the respiratory health of children.

An estimated 150,000 to 300,000 children under 18 months of age get pneumonia or bronchitis every year from breathing secondhand tobacco smoke, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: letthemgetcancer; nannystate; wodlist
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To: neodad

they could care less about kids or smoking.It's all another way for 2 bit bullsh*t towns to make a fourtune on TICKETS.I know my town here in NJ make one hell of a bunble of cash every month hitting up people for not wearing seat belts. Smoking ban is just another cash cow.


221 posted on 11/08/2005 9:13:50 PM PST by binkdeville
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To: nopardons
There are good parents who smoke, just as there are TERRIBLE parents who do not smoke. The reverse, of course, is also true. Smoking has little to no relevance to whether a parent is a good one, or not.

I disagree with you. I think smokers are more patient, tolerant, better parents.

Let's see... If a kid could choose to live in my house where they get to go climb trees, build tree-houses, camp out in the living room, read whatever books they wish (within reason), build a Popsicle stick city that takes up the entire floor of my study, stay up late one night a month telling ghost stories by the fire, sleep with one dog and three cats, have their very own pet snake, and lick the cake batter bowl...

OR...

They can live with a certain lady I know who's house looks like it's ready for it's closeup with Good House Keeping at all times, put their toys away after every timed "play session", wear "dress-up" clothes every day, be taken to a child psychologist because they threw a fit at the age of three, be put on Ritalin to put a stop to those "uncontrollable" tantrums, learn to sanitize their hands between timed play sessions, and have their toys boiled after their play dates leave.

Nah! Smokers are more fun! ;-)

222 posted on 11/08/2005 9:28:03 PM PST by Marie (Stop childhood obesity! Give em' Marlboros, not milkshakes!)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I like the idea, too. But I am a coward at heart who couldn't do it alone, but would gladly stand beside someone else... who goes first.


223 posted on 11/08/2005 9:31:04 PM PST by Marie (Stop childhood obesity! Give em' Marlboros, not milkshakes!)
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To: elkfersupper
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."

I LOVE IT!! LMAO!!

224 posted on 11/08/2005 9:33:27 PM PST by Marie (Stop childhood obesity! Give em' Marlboros, not milkshakes!)
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To: Marie; Gabz

Well, the good news is, my memory still works :)

Seems I wasn't the only one that read those initial reports about Smoking preventing SARs.

Here is a google search:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=sars+smoking+prevents&btnG=Search

Those initial finds are now being disputed. But the info was there!


225 posted on 11/08/2005 9:49:29 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: berkley

You know, I've noticed that myself...I'd venture to bet that about 90% (MINIMUM) of the smoker-haters who always claim it's "for the children"-are pro-abortion. I remember an argument about smokers on some FOX show about a year ago. The smoker-hater , as usual, had a constant smirk on his face. Every other thing out of his mouth was "children." The opponent asked him, "What are your views on abortion?" The smirk left his face instantly, and (visibly rattled) he sputtered and angrily stammered: "That's...that's absolutely none of your business!! And it has nothing to do with the matter at hand!!" That told me all I needed to know. Picture Rob "Meathead" Reiner in your mind. One of the biggest smoker-haters on the planet. I think you know where he stands on abortion. Another smoker-hater is Big-head Ted Kennedy. And that's merely 2 examples. Don't think more need be said.


226 posted on 11/08/2005 9:50:50 PM PST by The Foolkiller ( Why......That sounds.....FOOLish!)
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To: bfree

A simple question, why does anyone with a job still live in Michigan? My God, the liberals in that state make Europe look conservative. The taxes, the over regulation and the socialism just can't be easy to take or pay for.




We're not much better off in Ohio under RHINO rule.


227 posted on 11/08/2005 10:18:59 PM PST by The Foolkiller ( Why......That sounds.....FOOLish!)
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To: Marie
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeey...you're fighting the wrong person!

I'm a smoker ( and a damned GOOD parent! ), but the truth is, not all smokers are good parents and not all nonsmokers are horrible ones.

228 posted on 11/08/2005 10:22:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: JABBERBONK

The fix here is simple, go to a flea market purchase a child restraint seat, some baby blankets, and a doll, set them in the back seat, and light up a nice fat stogie, and wait for the cops to pull you over. When enough cops get tired of pulling smokers over with baby dolls in the back seat the stupidity will end.




BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!


229 posted on 11/08/2005 10:39:38 PM PST by The Foolkiller ( Why......That sounds.....FOOLish!)
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To: binkdeville

they could care less about kids or smoking.It's all another way for 2 bit bullsh*t towns to make a fourtune on TICKETS




DING DING DING!!! WE HAVE A WINNER!! And they're just using the anti-smoker hysteria to inplement it.


230 posted on 11/08/2005 10:46:41 PM PST by The Foolkiller ( Why......That sounds.....FOOLish!)
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To: ShadowDancer

Smoke around your child and you are pand scum. Abort your unborn child and you are a hero.

As the left gets more and more control on us all, soon the only choice left will be to slaughter our unborn children.


231 posted on 11/08/2005 10:50:40 PM PST by DakotaRed
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To: Gabz

Please post a link to that study.


232 posted on 11/08/2005 11:00:27 PM PST by secret garden (<= easily amused)
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To: Lovergirl
I am sure you will let someone dictate to you what you can and can not do in YOUR OWN HOME, right?

Sounds to me like you won't be seeing the grandkids at your house.

233 posted on 11/09/2005 3:22:33 AM PST by EVO X
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To: Black Birch; Lovergirl

I think it's enough for her to offer to go into another room. If the Daughter-in-Law from Hell wants to make her house payments or pay the taxes on it, that's a different story.


234 posted on 11/09/2005 3:31:59 AM PST by The Foolkiller ( Why......That sounds.....FOOLish!)
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To: The Foolkiller
I think it's enough for her to offer to go into another room. If the Daughter-in-Law from Hell wants to make her house payments or pay the taxes on it, that's a different story.

She has a right to smoke in her own home and her son and daughter-in-law have the right not visit with the grandkids. It sounds to me like they have settled on a mutual agreement.

235 posted on 11/09/2005 3:49:18 AM PST by EVO X
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To: Prodigal Son
This could only happen in Europe. France probably.

The news indicates that France has a lot of problems with smoking cars lately.

236 posted on 11/09/2005 3:51:23 AM PST by GraceCoolidge
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To: Fawn
I truly believe that all that smoke harmed my lungs....sorry if you don't like 'my point'.

I doubt that many people would argue that second hand smoke is good for kids. Seems to me pretty clear that better not to have them inhaling it. Having said that, however, where do you draw the line on government interference? It's better for kids to eat fruit than candy. It's better for kids not to watch too much TV. The list is endless! Seems the real question is at what point does the harm rise to the level of justifying government intervention.

237 posted on 11/09/2005 3:54:11 AM PST by GraceCoolidge
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To: Shalom Israel

Anybody who smokes in such close proximity to their children, doesn't care about their kids health. You can't wait for 20 darn minutes till you're out of the car to smoke? Give me a break, smokers. That nasty habit killed my husbands mother. Also, my parents smoked until I was about 9 and up until they quit we were sick all the time.


238 posted on 11/09/2005 3:54:57 AM PST by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: Ouderkirk

I think her point is that children exposed to second-hand smoke are predisposed to respiratory illness.


239 posted on 11/09/2005 3:57:01 AM PST by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: Lovergirl

Alas, My oldest daughter too, has dropped hints that when she and her husband have children, we should refrain from smoking while the kids visit. As with other non-smoking guest in our home, I have no problem going outside.


240 posted on 11/09/2005 4:02:43 AM PST by wolfcreek
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