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France rioters: \'Each night we make this place Baghdad\'
Monsters and Critics.com ^ | Nov 5, 2005, 19:00 GMT | Hans-Hermann Nikolei

Posted on 11/05/2005 4:47:47 PM PST by DogBarkTree

Paris - \'We burned 15 cars. How many do you have?\' A grim contest is under way in France as kids from disadvantaged suburbs vie with each other to see who can riot the hardest.

On Internet websites, young arsonists brag about their successes. Rioting, it seems, has become a trend sport, as youths in immigrant areas of provincial cities begin to rally to the call from Paris.

While political slogans hold no sway among these youngsters, hatred for Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy is palpable. \'Now we\'re the ones chasing you with the Karcher (high-pressure hoses),\' they say, referring to Sarkozy\'s pledge to clean the suburbs of \'scum\'.

What began as pitched battles has transformed into a nightly game of cat-and-mouse with the police.

Two or three people set out armed with mobile phones, crowbars and incendiary material. A quick hit with the crowbar on the windscreen of a police van, a Molotov cocktail inside - and they\'re off back into the sprawling housing estates.

The rioters have also started using motorbikes and mobile phones to trace the movements of police riot squads, in tactics reminiscent of urban guerrilla movements.

\'Each night we turn this place into Baghdad\', says one masked youth in Sevran near Paris. As a political statement, there have been better - but these riots seem to be more aimed at the television cameras than the National Assembly.

\'It would be better to go into Paris than break up everything here,\' his friend says, appearing to consider that the victims of the rioting are predominantly their own neighbours and friends.

\'Why did they set my car on fire, why mine?\' asks one young man as he watches it go up in flames. He knows the perpetrators, he says. They\'re neighbours of his, but he refuses to name them.

\'These are our kids,\' says Mohammed Rezzoug, vice president of Blanc-Mesnil football club.

Every night, Rezzoug is out on the streets talking to local youths in a bid to prevent his own sports hall going up in smoke. \'They answer me: \'Momo, we\'ll fuck them all\',\' he says.

Lurking behind the lines of burning cars is the knowledge that these riots could soon become a matter of life and death.

On Wednesday night, a disabled woman in Sevran barely escaped death in a burning bus.

Youths barricaded the road with burning tyres and threw fuel into the bus. All the other passengers fled, but the 56-year-old, unable to move, was sprayed with petrol and then a burning rag was thrown inside.

The woman survived the attack with second and third-degree burns on one-fifth of her body, after the bus driver managed to pull her to safety.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; frenchmuslims; mooligans; parisriots; sarkozy; sevran
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To: rlmorel

yeah, like next week.


101 posted on 11/05/2005 6:21:27 PM PST by oceanview
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To: seppel

The French used to have some balls. However, in WWI they lost 1.4 million men...and they lost their will to fight along with them. It broke them.

It's sad. They have no national will to stand up for themselves.


102 posted on 11/05/2005 6:27:57 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: oceanview

No kidding.


103 posted on 11/05/2005 6:29:47 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: 1rudeboy
It's more likely that what is happening now is why Chirac didn't support the Iraq invasion.

Well, that, and maybe that part about Chirac having billions worth of oil contracts secured with Saddam could have had a teeny little part in it as well. ;>)

104 posted on 11/05/2005 6:30:40 PM PST by Space Wrangler
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To: rfreedom4u
Is there rioting in Marseille?

Yes, there is, according to the Spanish newspaper El Mundo

105 posted on 11/05/2005 6:31:21 PM PST by Former Fetus (fetuses are 100% pro-life, they just don't vote yet!)
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To: Kristopher
they are in Place de la Republique in the centre of Paris... 11 cars burning for now.

Hmmm...maybe people should hold on to their Boeing stock.
Who'd buy airplanes (Airbus) largley made in a country that's about to
spontaneously combust?

But in the back of my conspiratorial mind, I can't help wondering if the
"disaffected youths" aren't just torching cars to help Renault and Citroen
sell replacements.
106 posted on 11/05/2005 6:32:24 PM PST by VOA
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To: 1rudeboy

By not supporting the US in Iraq the Arabs decided the French were weak therefore dhimini. This emboldened the Arabs in France to treat the French as such.


107 posted on 11/05/2005 6:39:26 PM PST by FreedomSurge
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To: DogBarkTree
as kids from disadvantaged suburbs vie with each other to see who can riot the hardest.

Disadvantaged? Only because they refuse to adapt to French language and culture. They should all be sent home where they can be surrounded by the terrific advantages of their own cuountries again.

108 posted on 11/05/2005 6:39:42 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: ml/nj
What, are you 12 years old? The French may be political children, but their culture is our culture.
Are you living on the planet Neptune?

One thing earthlings know: France is an enemy of America.

109 posted on 11/05/2005 6:40:31 PM PST by samtheman
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To: soltice

Please ... be careful what you wish for, even though I agree..


110 posted on 11/05/2005 6:42:05 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: ml/nj
Ever hear of Lafayette?

Forget LaFayette. He was barely home long enough to get his vineyards back in shape before the French navy began attacking US ships on the high seas. We had an undeclared Naval war with France under John Adams (he was our second president, right after Washington) before the 1700's were over. Franced has been problematical ever since.

111 posted on 11/05/2005 6:45:40 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ml/nj
Ever hear of Lafayette?

Forget LaFayette. He was barely home long enough to get his vineyards back in shape before the French navy began attacking US ships on the high seas. We had an undeclared Naval war with France under John Adams (he was our second president, right after Washington) before the 1700's were over. France has been problematical ever since.

112 posted on 11/05/2005 6:45:52 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ml/nj

I've been to France. Their culture is NOT our culture.


113 posted on 11/05/2005 6:49:13 PM PST by Clemenza (In League with the Freemasons, The Bilderbergers, and the Learned Elders of Zion)
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To: rlmorel

All the brave French men died at the Somme.


114 posted on 11/05/2005 6:50:47 PM PST by Clemenza (In League with the Freemasons, The Bilderbergers, and the Learned Elders of Zion)
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To: oceanview
...the actual number of people conducting these acts may be small, but the support behind them is huge. So right, but it's even bigger that that. It's true of Islamist terrorism in general. Those that are not active terrorists too often support terrorist acts either explicitly or by default.
115 posted on 11/05/2005 6:52:09 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: FreedomSurge

I don't believe it . . . the Muslims attack anything and anybody.


116 posted on 11/05/2005 6:58:55 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Clemenza
I've been to France. Their culture is NOT our culture.

Have you been to Washington, DC, too? Did you notice any similarities?

ML/NJ

117 posted on 11/05/2005 7:03:53 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: DogBarkTree
Frogs In The Pot

Islam Fires Burning
118 posted on 11/05/2005 7:04:45 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want yo"ur opinion they will give it to you.)
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To: ml/nj

Only in terms of architecture. We Americans are cut from a different cloth than the Europeans, just as Australians, Argentineans and Brazilians are.


119 posted on 11/05/2005 7:05:27 PM PST by Clemenza (In League with the Freemasons, The Bilderbergers, and the Learned Elders of Zion)
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To: Clemenza
Only in terms of architecture.

I guess you weren't checking out any of the sophisticated women walking around.

ML/NJ

120 posted on 11/05/2005 7:11:00 PM PST by ml/nj
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