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The Fall of France
The Brussels Journal ^ | November 5, 2005 | Paul Belien

Posted on 11/05/2005 2:54:50 PM PST by Daralundy

If Nicolas Sarkozy had been allowed to have his way, he could have saved France. Last Summer the outspoken minister of the Interior was France’s most popular politician with his promise to restore the law of the Republic in the various virtually self-ruling immigrant areas surrounding the major French cities.

These areas, which some compare to the “millet” system of the former Ottoman Empire, where each religious community (millet) conducted its own social and cultural life in its own neighbourhoods, exist not only in France, but also in Muslim neighbourhoods in Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden and other countries.

The French establishment led by the corrupt President Jacques Chirac and his Prime Minister, the aristocrat Dominique de Villepin, an appointee who has never held an elected office, begrudged Sarkozy his popularity. The minister was distrusted. He was an outsider, a self-made man who had made it to the top without the support of relations and cronies, by hard work and his no-nonsense approach.

Sarkozy (whose real surname is Sarközy de Nagy-Bocsa) is a second generation immigrant, the son of a Hungarian refugee and a Greek mother. “I like the frame of mind of those who need to build everything because nothing was given to them,” he said a few months ago about his upbringing.

The experience of his youth has made Sarkozy not only the most pro-American French politician, but also virtually the only one who understands what second generation immigrants really need if they want to build a future.

More important than the so-called “social benefits” – the government alms provided by welfare politicians like Chirac, Villepin and their predecessors – is the provision of law and order. This guarantees that those who create wealth do not lose it to thugs who extort and rob and burn down their properties.

Sarkozy’s decision to send the police back to the suburbs which had been abandoned by previous governments was resented by the “youths” who now rule there. That this would lead to riots was inevitable. Sarkozy knew it, and so did Chirac, Villepin and the others. Sarkozy intended to crack down hard on the rioters. If the French government had sent in the army last week, it would have been responding to the thugs in a language they understand: force. And the riots would long have ceased.

What happened instead was that Sarkozy’s “colleagues” in government used the riots as an excuse to turn on the “immigrant” in their own midst. Paris is well worth a mass, King Henri IV of France once said. Bringing down Nicolas Sarközy de Nagy-Bocsa is well worth a riot, King Chirac must have thought. Contrary to the normal French policy in dealing with trouble makers, the authorities decided to use a soft approach. Chirac and his designated crown prince Villepin blamed Sarkozy’s “disrespectful rhetoric” – such as calling thugs thugs – for having detonated the explosive situation in the suburbs. Dominique de Villepin stepped in and took over the task of restoring calm from Sarkozy. While the latter was told to shut up and keep a low profile, Villepin began a “dialogue” with the rioters. As a result the riots have spilled over from Paris to other French cities. Do not be surprised if this French epidemic soon crosses France’s borders into the North African areas surrounding cities in Belgium and the Netherlands.

As for Sarkozy, the best thing this immigrant son can do is to resign and make a bid for the 2007 presidential elections as an outsider. His popularity with the ordinary Frenchmen has not been tarnished yet. But this could soon change if he remains a member of a Villepin government which is clearly unwilling to abolish the current “millet” system. French patriots do not like to see their country disintegrate into a cluster of self-governing city-states, some of which are Sharia republics.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: belgium; denmark; denmarksweden; eurabia; france; frenchmuslims; jihadineurope; netherlands; parisriots; sarkozy; sweden
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To: Former Dodger

Right here, watching and waiting...


22 posted on 11/05/2005 3:47:16 PM PST by Fred Nerks (MAINSTREAM MEDIA ISN'T MAINSTREAM IT'S THE ENEMEDIA!)
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To: Dark Skies

Yep! Never look a gift-horse in the mouth.


23 posted on 11/05/2005 3:48:27 PM PST by Fred Nerks (MAINSTREAM MEDIA ISN'T MAINSTREAM IT'S THE ENEMEDIA!)
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To: Rummyfan
YOu would think Chirac and company would realize they are way past the point of having a dialogue with these thugs.

Chirac is all talk, and no action. Here's what Chirac was saying almost 8 years ago, in 1998 when cars were being burned by mooligans in Neuhof, near Strasbourg.

French President Jacques Chirac, in his annual New Year message, denounced growing violence in France and urged people to help the police control the problem. He said: "There is too much violence in our country, too much insecurity - in the schools, on public transport. Every day new limits are broken beyond which our society will disintegrate."
Cars are now burned annually, on January 1, in Neuhof.
24 posted on 11/05/2005 3:48:34 PM PST by syriacus (Youthful angst of "Bowling for Columbine" + political passion of "Fahrenheit 9/11" = MOOLIGANs)
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To: Dark Skies

PS. Vlad will have to stand on his own, get out of the party, right?


25 posted on 11/05/2005 3:51:00 PM PST by Fred Nerks (MAINSTREAM MEDIA ISN'T MAINSTREAM IT'S THE ENEMEDIA!)
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To: austinaero

I was on that thread. Said my piece and got the hell off. Appeaser and apologist pi$$ me off and I don't want to get banned.


26 posted on 11/05/2005 3:52:49 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Daralundy
Jihad in France!



Zoot Alors!

27 posted on 11/05/2005 3:54:20 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Daralundy
The immigrants always seem to being their thrid world environment with them. If the host country does not expand their property law to accomodate, shantytown results: pure third world.

It might be interesting to note that islam has attracted people who felt outside with respect to property ownership. This is especially obvious in Indonesia, which is far from being Arab, since only 7% of the land has clear property title. Those who are outcast might tend to join up with the first system of inclusion that comes along. So it is with islam, and so it was with Christianity way back when, and so it was with communism. It's a symptom, not a cause.

France needs to modernize and expand its land ownership system now, before it is too late. Whatever this requires, the process will probably have to be political.

28 posted on 11/05/2005 3:54:35 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Fred Nerks

Actually, Sarkozy is the president of the party (UMP).


29 posted on 11/05/2005 4:02:02 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Dark Skies

Whoops! Shows you how little I know...


30 posted on 11/05/2005 4:03:14 PM PST by Fred Nerks (MAINSTREAM MEDIA ISN'T MAINSTREAM IT'S THE ENEMEDIA!)
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To: Daralundy

I'm having trouble getting my "sympathy meter" into gear. Right now it's registering "zero".


31 posted on 11/05/2005 4:06:45 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: syriacus
  Subject: New Year's Riots In France  
Car burning in particular seems to have become a popular form of expression. In the Strasbourg area, some 500 cars were torched in 1997, up from 400 the previous year. Other cities were not so hard-hit but have had increases.

     "Burning cars has become a kind of ritual," said scholar Farhad Khosrokhavar, who studies young Muslims in the suburbs. "Through this violence, [young people] feel involved in society. They feel like stars.


32 posted on 11/05/2005 4:12:17 PM PST by syriacus (Youthful angst of "Bowling for Columbine" + political passion of "Fahrenheit 9/11" = MOOLIGANs)
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To: pbrown
"I was on that thread. Said my piece and got the hell off. Appeaser and apologist pi$$ me off and I don't want to get banned."

Hmmmmmm

Got a link? Me wanna see this.

33 posted on 11/05/2005 4:15:52 PM PST by Earthdweller (Earth to liberals..we were not in Iraq on 9/11..so how did the war cause terrorism again?)
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To: Daralundy

I am calling for the creation of a french-muslim state, with Paris as it's capital.


34 posted on 11/05/2005 4:37:23 PM PST by Jewelsetter
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To: Daralundy
I am really surprised some copy cat riots have not started in the other European countries. Does anyone know if there has been riots else where in Europe? You would think after eight days even some of the French rioters would go on a road trip.
35 posted on 11/05/2005 4:39:33 PM PST by one more state
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To: HardStarboard

Me thinks that this is going to shut up a lot of finger-pointers.


36 posted on 11/05/2005 4:41:12 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Voltage

Isn't he the one who gave Colin Powell such a difficult time? and basically was an arse over Iraq at every available moment he could find a camera? I think he could give Chuckie Schumer a run for a camera ( or could have back in 2002/03.


37 posted on 11/05/2005 4:42:59 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Dark Skies
Every day that the rioting continues, the French slide further to the right on the political spectrum

Ya think? I think Chirac is still in shock over the French voting against his beloved EU constitution... he was so anxious to use that to poke us with at every chance, take over the world currency from USA, etc... when will they get his to step down??

38 posted on 11/05/2005 4:45:52 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Dark Skies
Every day that the rioting continues, the French slide further to the right on the political spectrum.

Perhaps this is the aim of continuing the "soft" approach.

39 posted on 11/05/2005 4:46:08 PM PST by glorgau
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To: JOE6PAK

He, we have our own Muslim population... if we go to war against Muslims to save France, Denmark, etc.. then we have a battle on the home front.


40 posted on 11/05/2005 4:46:39 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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