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The Fall of France
The Brussels Journal ^ | November 5, 2005 | Paul Belien

Posted on 11/05/2005 2:54:50 PM PST by Daralundy

If Nicolas Sarkozy had been allowed to have his way, he could have saved France. Last Summer the outspoken minister of the Interior was France’s most popular politician with his promise to restore the law of the Republic in the various virtually self-ruling immigrant areas surrounding the major French cities.

These areas, which some compare to the “millet” system of the former Ottoman Empire, where each religious community (millet) conducted its own social and cultural life in its own neighbourhoods, exist not only in France, but also in Muslim neighbourhoods in Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden and other countries.

The French establishment led by the corrupt President Jacques Chirac and his Prime Minister, the aristocrat Dominique de Villepin, an appointee who has never held an elected office, begrudged Sarkozy his popularity. The minister was distrusted. He was an outsider, a self-made man who had made it to the top without the support of relations and cronies, by hard work and his no-nonsense approach.

Sarkozy (whose real surname is Sarközy de Nagy-Bocsa) is a second generation immigrant, the son of a Hungarian refugee and a Greek mother. “I like the frame of mind of those who need to build everything because nothing was given to them,” he said a few months ago about his upbringing.

The experience of his youth has made Sarkozy not only the most pro-American French politician, but also virtually the only one who understands what second generation immigrants really need if they want to build a future.

More important than the so-called “social benefits” – the government alms provided by welfare politicians like Chirac, Villepin and their predecessors – is the provision of law and order. This guarantees that those who create wealth do not lose it to thugs who extort and rob and burn down their properties.

Sarkozy’s decision to send the police back to the suburbs which had been abandoned by previous governments was resented by the “youths” who now rule there. That this would lead to riots was inevitable. Sarkozy knew it, and so did Chirac, Villepin and the others. Sarkozy intended to crack down hard on the rioters. If the French government had sent in the army last week, it would have been responding to the thugs in a language they understand: force. And the riots would long have ceased.

What happened instead was that Sarkozy’s “colleagues” in government used the riots as an excuse to turn on the “immigrant” in their own midst. Paris is well worth a mass, King Henri IV of France once said. Bringing down Nicolas Sarközy de Nagy-Bocsa is well worth a riot, King Chirac must have thought. Contrary to the normal French policy in dealing with trouble makers, the authorities decided to use a soft approach. Chirac and his designated crown prince Villepin blamed Sarkozy’s “disrespectful rhetoric” – such as calling thugs thugs – for having detonated the explosive situation in the suburbs. Dominique de Villepin stepped in and took over the task of restoring calm from Sarkozy. While the latter was told to shut up and keep a low profile, Villepin began a “dialogue” with the rioters. As a result the riots have spilled over from Paris to other French cities. Do not be surprised if this French epidemic soon crosses France’s borders into the North African areas surrounding cities in Belgium and the Netherlands.

As for Sarkozy, the best thing this immigrant son can do is to resign and make a bid for the 2007 presidential elections as an outsider. His popularity with the ordinary Frenchmen has not been tarnished yet. But this could soon change if he remains a member of a Villepin government which is clearly unwilling to abolish the current “millet” system. French patriots do not like to see their country disintegrate into a cluster of self-governing city-states, some of which are Sharia republics.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: belgium; denmark; denmarksweden; eurabia; france; frenchmuslims; jihadineurope; netherlands; parisriots; sarkozy; sweden
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1 posted on 11/05/2005 2:54:50 PM PST by Daralundy
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To: Daralundy

A most enlightening BTTT


2 posted on 11/05/2005 3:00:22 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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To: Daralundy

Good post. According to the latest this violence is spreading virtually nationwide. YOu would think Chirac and company would realize they are way past the point of having a dialogue with these thugs.


3 posted on 11/05/2005 3:00:34 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

They are expecting ships to land at normandy again...European News resports similar uprisings in the Netherlands


5 posted on 11/05/2005 3:02:11 PM PST by HHKrepublican_2 (you cant spell liberal without an L an I and an E...If the first ammendment doesnt work, use the 2nd)
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To: Daralundy
Thanks for finding this. It will make interesting dinner conversation with my German (US citizen now) girlfriend who thinks that Europe has less problems than the U.S.

I know - "why date a European socialist"? All I can say is conversion is a slow process - but in this case worth the effort!

6 posted on 11/05/2005 3:09:06 PM PST by HardStarboard (Read Stephen Hayes "Spooked White House" - Weekly Standard. It explains a an awful lot.)
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To: Daralundy
The Fall of France

It'll be the fall of Europe pretty soon.

7 posted on 11/05/2005 3:09:40 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: Rummyfan
YOu would think Chirac and company would realize they are way past the point of having a dialogue with these thugs.

Chirac could care spit for these people. He is making a political point and powerplay. If these folks burn down their cities, he can blame it on someone else. There is no chance of these folks marching into Paris and seizing power. It simply is an inconvenience for the political elite.

8 posted on 11/05/2005 3:10:34 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Proud to be named as a member of the Radical Right Wing. Vast Right Wing got old.)
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To: Daralundy

you import "Laeti" you pay the price the Western Roman Empire paid.

how many times must that particular history cycle before folks get the point?


9 posted on 11/05/2005 3:11:16 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: Daralundy

France falls and Frankenstan rises from the ashes.


11 posted on 11/05/2005 3:16:37 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: lesser_satan
Actually Dominique de Villepin is supposedly a man. But who can tell?
12 posted on 11/05/2005 3:18:35 PM PST by Voltage
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To: Daralundy

They're just waiting for the white flags to come back from the cleaners.


13 posted on 11/05/2005 3:20:19 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: everyone

Y'all should visit the other thread about the President sending his happy EID greetings. A couple of anti-israel pro-moslems are having a good time. Hey, it's all ok. Just thought you may find it interesting.


14 posted on 11/05/2005 3:22:05 PM PST by austinaero
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To: Daralundy

France = Democrat plan for America = appeasement that does not work. Frankly, I'm not surprised.


15 posted on 11/05/2005 3:23:09 PM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Daralundy; fastattacksailor; swordfish71; broadsword; Nesher; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; ...
Good post and a BUMP!

TROP ping, my FRiends!

16 posted on 11/05/2005 3:28:41 PM PST by Former Dodger ( "Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Einstein)
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To: King Prout
Was this Belgian publication respresentative of a conservative viewpoint? If so, interesting.

Back in 2000 I took my family by hoovercraft from UK to Calais. We were hungry when we arrived in France, so I drove all the way to Brugge Belgium to eat.

When our two young sons asked why we couldn't eat in France, I told them about not letting our planes over-fly on the way to Libya, and how none of us would spend one dime in France.

17 posted on 11/05/2005 3:29:43 PM PST by CT
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To: Former Dodger
Thx for the ping FD.

France won't fall, tho. She has 350 nuclear warheads and nuclear power plants.

My hope is that Chirac will turn to Sarkozy and turn him loose. It is very interesting that the rioters are quite linear in their approach. So far they are just burning things. When they get around to killing or if the riots move out of the ghettos and into Paris proper, Sarkozi will get his chance, IMO.

Every day that the rioting continues, the French slide further to the right on the political spectrum.

18 posted on 11/05/2005 3:40:19 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
It'll be the fall of Europe pretty soon.

And guess who will have to save them yet AGAIN?

19 posted on 11/05/2005 3:42:15 PM PST by JOE6PAK ("We'll be Heironymus Bosch in Jest a Minute, but Faust...")
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To: CT
When we were in Paris, we were shocked to find out that you could only eat at certain times in a public eatery. They truly are lazy people who despise Americans.
20 posted on 11/05/2005 3:42:17 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God).)
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