Posted on 11/02/2005 2:26:45 PM PST by SmithL
an Francisco (AP) --
A federal appeals court on Wednesday dismissed a lawsuit by elementary school parents who were outraged that the Palmdale School District had surveyed students about sex.
While the surveys asked students how often they thought about sex, among other questions, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said parents of public school children have no "fundamental right" to be the exclusive provider of sexual information to their children. The parents maintained they had the sole right "to control the upbringing of their children by introducing them to matters of and relating to sex."
The plaintiffs had sought unspecified monetary damages.
In upholding a lower court that had also ruled against the parents, a three-judge panel of the appeals court here dismissed the case, ruling unanimously that "parents are possessed of no constitutional right to prevent the public schools from providing information on that subject to their students in any forum or manner they select."
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
We home school in the Bay Area on a nurse's salary.
Am I furious to read this? Oh yes, you bet I am!
Federal Code places the parents as the primary educators:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/20/chapters/48/subchapters/i/sections/section_3401.html
Pretty scary. The government wants our children and the court says it's okay. The 9th is a disgrace to the US.
They used to have all kinds of "surveys" when my kids were in elementary school. To their credit, they always gave totally off the wall answers to confuse them. LOL
That pretty much happened in Mass., didn't it?
>>>Is this story actually true? I can't imagine anyone asking my students questions like these. It doesn't belong in an elementary school.
The case is Fields v. Palmdale School District, 03-56499.
The 9th Circus indeed.
I'm hardly a private-matters prude and a bit more understanding that public schools must serve all the community's students, including those struggling with homosexuality, but this survey was undeniably far, FAR afield of anything defensible. Especially at the elementary level! Elementary schooling is more and more only K-5 with Middle School picking up 6-8.
If we haven't already, it's time to talk with the little ones in our lives more about what's being asked in their public schools.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1052017/posts
Accused Terrorist Wrote School Guidelines with ACLU
Abdurahman Alamoudi, President of the American Muslim Council, supporter of Hamas, Hezbollah and accused of ties with Osama bin Laden, helped develop "Religious Expression in Public School" with the ACLU which holds the copyright. Launched by Clinton in 1995, these "Presidential Guidelines" greatly impact public schools today. Nadine Strossen, President of the ACLU, refers to these guidelines as the authority to support the ACLU’s lawsuits restricting Christmas celebrations and removing Nativity scenes from public schools.
School districts are pressured to utilize Clinton’s guidelines which he sold to America as "issued by 35 religious groups," failing to disclose they include many civil rights groups and are all described by the ACLU as committed to separation of church and state. This explains Strossen's haughty smile as she smugly said on the Lou Dobbs show, "All these religious groups agreed to it!" (12/19/03)
Alamoudi met often with then President and Hillary Clinton and has been described as Hillary’s friend and advisor on Islamic affairs. Protected by Clinton’s Presidential Guidelines, funding for Islamic educational materials began pouring in from Saudi Arabia and Muslim nations. Houghton Mifflin textbooks became saturated with Muslim beliefs as the Council of Islamic Education (CIE) helped write the textbook (originally denied by the publisher, Houghton Mifflin, until their Editorial Director was caught bragging about it in print).
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Additionally, Clinton went beyond the ACLU copyright guidelines and added:
"Students generally do not have a Federal right to be excused from lessons that may be inconsistent with their religious beliefs or practices."
Pay attention. There went religious freedom.
At the end of his term, Clinton addressed Muslim leaders with a Ramadan message containing quotes from our children's textbooks today. Clinton categorically lists his accomplishments to Muslims:
"As America's six-million-member Muslim community grows in numbers and prominence, Americans of every religious tradition are learning more about the origins and meaning of Islam. That on "the Night of Power," the Angel Gabriel appeared to the Prophet Muhammad and revealed to him the first verses of the Koran. That the Koran declares that Ramadan was the month Allah's words were sent down, and so should be spent in fasting." -Bill Clinton
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The actual district involved is not in S.F. though.
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Actually, and I haven't read the actual opinon, as I don't have time to try to grasp the tripe that comes out of that kangaroo court, but it appears that you are reading it backward.
The Court did not necessarily find that the schools have the Constitutional right to do this, it did find that the parents do not have the Constitutional right to prevent it.
A significant difference, legally speaking! But of course they may have elaborated in the body of the opinion, prior disclaimer noted....
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Does this mean the ladies at 10th and Main can still be "providers", also?
"The appellate panel noted that other courts have upheld similar issues, including mandatory health classes, a school district's condom distribution program and a district's compulsory sex education program."
Time for more Home Schooling, me thinks%$*#&^$^%/!!
Imagine the 9th Circus teaching your kid about the birds and the bees...
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