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CIA holds terror suspects in secret prisons
WP ^ | November 1 2005 | Dana Priest

Posted on 11/01/2005 9:02:24 PM PST by jmc1969

Debate grows within agency about legality, morality of approach

The CIA has been hiding and interrogating some of its most important al Qaeda captives at a Soviet-era compound in Eastern Europe, according to U.S. and foreign officials familiar with the arrangement.

The secret facility is part of a covert prison system set up by the CIA nearly four years ago that at various times has included sites in eight countries, including Thailand, Afghanistan and several democracies in Eastern Europe, as well as a small center at the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba, according to current and former intelligence officials and diplomats from three continents.

The hidden global internment network is a central element in the CIA's unconventional war on terrorism. It depends on the cooperation of foreign intelligence services, and on keeping even basic information about the system secret from the public, foreign officials and nearly all members of Congress charged with overseeing the CIA's covert actions.

The existence and locations of the facilities -- referred to as "black sites" in classified White House, CIA, Justice Department and congressional documents -- are known to only a handful of officials in the United States and, usually, only to the president and a few top intelligence officers in each host country.

But the revelations of widespread prisoner abuse in Afghanistan and Iraq by the U.S. military -- which operates under published rules and transparent oversight of Congress -- have increased concern among lawmakers, foreign governments and human rights groups about the opaque CIA system.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 2bigforbrithces; alqaeda; ciahousecleaning; gwot; muststop; nurnenbergtrials; rightsviolation; sickcia; specialops; truthwillout
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The CIA is willing to leak anything and everything to hurt Bush.
1 posted on 11/01/2005 9:02:25 PM PST by jmc1969
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The CIA is willing to leak anything and everything to hurt Bush.

And their only-too-willing accomplices in the MSM are right there to help them out.

2 posted on 11/01/2005 9:05:18 PM PST by JRios1968 ("Cogito, ergo FReep": I think, therefore I FReep.)
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And we here in the Heartland all say, SO WHAT if the CIA has prisons for these terrorist criminals!


4 posted on 11/01/2005 9:07:42 PM PST by Vor Lady (Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?)
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To: jmc1969

The CIA could almost be compared to the NAZI SS because it works against anyone who threatens it's operations in any way shape or form. Even if it means offing a President.
There are people working in our government with bad intentions for our nation. double agents working for the UN subversives who want to destroy America because only we stand in their way of achieving world leadership.


5 posted on 11/01/2005 9:09:02 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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The Washington Post is not publishing the names of the Eastern European countries involved in the covert program, at the request of senior U.S. officials. They argued that the disclosure might disrupt counterterrorism efforts in those countries and elsewhere and could make them targets of possible terrorist retaliation.

If the Post knows, it isn't that hard for Al Qaeda to find out either.

6 posted on 11/01/2005 9:12:52 PM PST by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: Certain_Doom

"the screeching left will screech, but the real Americans don't care."

You should take a peek over at DU or KOS... oh how they claim the moral high ground..what a bunch of two faced liars.



7 posted on 11/01/2005 9:14:22 PM PST by skimask (Whatever happens it's Bush or Roves' fault.)
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To: jmc1969

Just by the obvious sieve that now defines the CIA in complete opposition of its reason for existence, the whole agency should be deemed completely inept and disbanded, and repopulated with agents who would actually be working FOR this country.


8 posted on 11/01/2005 9:16:29 PM PST by soloNYer (My state needs to be dragged to the woodshed for a severe beating.)
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Well .. the dims would rather we say where the prisoners are so that other AQ members can rescue them and probably kill our soldiers. Cute huh??


9 posted on 11/01/2005 9:18:16 PM PST by CyberAnt (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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Meanwhile, the debate over the wisdom of the program continues among CIA officers, some of whom also argue that the secrecy surrounding the program is not sustainable.

Getting the prisoners to the site in the era of today's spy satellites, almost might as well be done in a fish bowl.

10 posted on 11/01/2005 9:22:36 PM PST by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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The way things are going, field operatives may rebel against the management and take the CIA back from communist hands.

Liberals would never put their sorry @$$3$ on the line, guys like Michael Spann won't tolerate this BS for long. They are risking their lives everyday to protect the nation just to get undermined by degenerate partisans and agendamongers.


11 posted on 11/01/2005 9:27:09 PM PST by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: jmc1969

While the libtards may be squealing about this, I think that most folks will greet this news as I did: "GOOD!"


12 posted on 11/01/2005 9:39:59 PM PST by EricT.
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Your right. Also, do you think the US or any other country during WWII unilaterally released any prisioners before the war was over. The crying liberals......eek, give me a break.


13 posted on 11/01/2005 9:45:49 PM PST by scannell
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To: jmc1969

14 posted on 11/01/2005 9:50:21 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: jmc1969

More power to them!

More prisons if needed too!


15 posted on 11/01/2005 9:52:03 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: jmc1969
Unnamed sources unwilling to go on the record. Journalistic Malpractice. How do we know this isn't just the latest Rathergate or Koran Flush made up story by a "Journalist" with no ethics?
16 posted on 11/01/2005 9:53:49 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Merry Alitomas!)
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To: The Red Zone
"Meanwhile, the debate over the wisdom of the program continues among CIA officers, some of whom also argue that the secrecy surrounding the program is not sustainable."

CIA Agent: "I was just telling Joe Wilson the other day that I don't think we can sustain the secrecy of this prison system too much longer. Joe was very understanding. He's some guy, that Joe."

17 posted on 11/01/2005 9:59:41 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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The CIA has been hiding and interrogating some of its most important al Qaeda captives at a Soviet-era compound in Eastern Europe,

Is this supposed to be a bad thing?


18 posted on 11/01/2005 10:01:15 PM PST by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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Man! I don't need to know this and now that I do I applaud the existence of these 'Secret Prisons'. I just hope they are doing whatever is necessary to extract valuable Intel from these bastards and I could care less about what Human Rights Watch or any of the other suicidal nutcases thinks about it. Period!
19 posted on 11/01/2005 10:07:17 PM PST by TCats
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To: Valin

Check out this lunatics rantings on the subject from the Dailykos. The poster is in a tizzy because the WAPO didn't name the countries where the secret prison is located.

"In 1961, the New York Times found out about the Bay of Pigs invasion. The paper KNEW when it was going to happen.

The NY Times held the story after Kennedy administration officials pleaded with them to hold it.

Later, Kennedy told an editor at the NY Times that he wished they had run with the story.

He could have canceled the invasion -- and blamed the media for threatening national security.

Look, the media are NOT in the business to keep secrets. At least they SHOULD not be.

Would I run a page one story on Dec. 5, 1944 that the allies are invading Normandy tomorrow? I think not.

But when the government is conducting a dirty war, THAT is another matter."

So essentially if the poster agress with the war (ie a Democrat is conducting it) then he can keep his mouth shut. But if a Republican administration is at war, then the poster will sing like a canary.

Why is this guy even an American?


20 posted on 11/01/2005 10:09:27 PM PST by bigeasy_70118
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