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Bush: Judge Samuel Alito is new choice for Supreme Court nominee
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Posted on 10/31/2005 3:12:28 AM PST by kcvl

Per Fox News...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: alito; antoninscalia; billofrights; bush; catholic; civilrights; constitution; courts; judge; judges; judicialrestraint; justice; miers; newjersey; originalintent; presidentbush; rights; scalito; scotus; supremecourt; uusconstitution; whiningdems
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To: PhiKapMom

I've been thinking along those lines myself. I agree.


1,741 posted on 10/31/2005 2:52:11 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: peyton randolph

Here is what David Frum has written in his online diary at National Review:

President Bush has made a perfect pick for the Supreme Court in Samuel Alito. There may be a fight over this nomination, but it is a fight that will unite conservatives in support of the president and his fine choice. And in the end, it is a fight that conservatives will win. A great day.


1,742 posted on 10/31/2005 2:57:33 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (read my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: JeffAtlanta

Socialist planning types are afraid of public discourse; conservatives thrive on it.


1,743 posted on 10/31/2005 2:58:33 PM PST by Leonine (Tack right and win the fight!)
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To: kcvl

OUTSTANDING!!!

(How Rovian...hee, hee, heeee....)


1,744 posted on 10/31/2005 2:59:15 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Look for the union label--on the bat crashing through your windshield!)
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To: Deo et Patria

mori?


1,745 posted on 10/31/2005 3:00:04 PM PST by Leonine (Tack right and win the fight!)
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To: Allen H
Liberals are scared, they are going to lose this and lose the SC with this nomination and they know it

Then, really, what do they have? 50 million malcontents concentrated in big cities on the coasts.Out of a country of 300 million.

1,746 posted on 10/31/2005 3:01:59 PM PST by riri
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To: Leonine
Socialist planning types are afraid of public discourse; conservatives thrive on it.

Exactly - blind trust in mortal men leads to bad results every time.

Now if we can only get the point across when it comes to big government...

1,747 posted on 10/31/2005 3:02:27 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: American Quilter

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00245

Salazar voted for Roberts. Probably afraid of conservative constituents in Colorado. Other Senate liberals did the same, such as Bill Nelson of FL, who takes his cues from Kennedy and H. Klinton most of the time.


1,748 posted on 10/31/2005 3:03:08 PM PST by pleikumud
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Here is what David Frum has written in his online diary at National Review

Thanks. I'm surprised. Of the neocon pundits, Frum was most likely to dissent because he is pro-abortion and Alito is pro-life. Then again, RINO Specter is making favorable comments too...a bit shocking given Specter's adoration of Roe v. Wade.

1,749 posted on 10/31/2005 3:04:08 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: riri
"...what do they have? 50 million malcontents..."

And self-destructive malcontents at that. They're shrinking every day and aborting their awfulspring.

1,750 posted on 10/31/2005 3:05:12 PM PST by Leonine (Tack right and win the fight!)
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To: JeffAtlanta

Thank you for your public service, Sir.


1,751 posted on 10/31/2005 3:06:51 PM PST by Leonine (Tack right and win the fight!)
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To: peyton randolph
Thanks. I'm surprised. Of the neocon pundits, Frum was most likely to dissent because he is pro-abortion and Alito is pro-life. Then again, RINO Specter is making favorable comments too...a bit shocking given Specter's adoration of Roe v. Wade.

I think this is more of a sign that Frum, Specter and many others really don't see Roe ever being overturned. Many judges who feel that Roe was flawed still see it as settled law.

Their take on Alito may be that even though he is pro-life, he still wouldn't overturn Roe.

1,752 posted on 10/31/2005 3:12:06 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

You know my view does include specific moves made by God in His sovereignty. Everything (maybe not even most things) is not determined by the choices of free agents.


1,753 posted on 10/31/2005 3:12:07 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: kabar
So far I haven't heard of anyone who was in Vietnam who said "Whew, boy I'm glad I didn't get called to Iraq". I have read an article that outlined ova dozen Army and Marine personnel, troops, helicopter pilots, etc, who were in Vietnam, and are now in Iraq, and ALL OF THEM clearly said that Iraq is a MUCH better place to be at any time, than Vietnam was at any time of the war. Hands down, no exceptions. The media can't be honest about that, because then no one who watches them would then be able to go out and parrot them to be against the war in Iraq. If every war goes as "bad" as Iraq is supposedly going, we'll never lose a war again.

And thank you for your service! 8)

1,754 posted on 10/31/2005 3:17:52 PM PST by Allen H (Remember 9-11,God bless our military,Bush,& the USA! A sad ACLU, for a better America!!!)
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To: JeffAtlanta
I think one can actually be pro-choice and still want Roe v. Wade overturned. Why? Because all Roe v. Wade did was tell the states they they could not prohibit abortions. Without Roe v. Wade, states could prohibit abortions, but most states would probably not do it, and none would prohibit them completely. An abortion would still be legal for anyone who could afford one. There would just be more hoops to jump through.
1,755 posted on 10/31/2005 3:17:53 PM PST by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: JeffAtlanta

I don't think Frum cares a whole lot about the abortion issue. Specter does, but maybe President Bush read him the riot act. Besides, even Specter probably understands that Roe can't permanently stand. It may take a while, as they'll no doubt chip away at it first, but a ruling that blatantly unconstitutional and unscientific can't stand forever.


1,756 posted on 10/31/2005 3:20:14 PM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: TSchmereL

With disciplines such as fetal surgery blossoming, Roe can't survive forever, and neither even can the abortion mentality. Justice Alito will be a good step toward restoring sanity on this issue.


1,757 posted on 10/31/2005 3:22:11 PM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: Heartofsong83
Sorry it took me so long to reply. Bad weather.

It's possible, but really, there just aren't very many conservative democrats left anymore. Zell Miller is part of a dying breed unfortunately. Most democrats just can't appeal to conservatives anymore, even in the south. The democrats have a LOT more to lose than the Republicans in this, and over the past five years, the Senate is starting to finally reflect, SLOWLY, the conservative trends of the rest of the government. House elections every two years, President every four. With Senators being every six years, and like was said before, they're hard to defeat, but the angst on the conservative side of the constant spinelessness of Senate Republicans. I think that will trend more Republican adn more conservative Republican. The RINOs really have gone too far and annoyed too many conservatives for too long, and as those 11 strong red State democrat Senators are replaced with real southern conservative Republican Senators, the RINOs will be totally irrelevant to the Republican Senate Majority who will be able to pass legislation without the RINOs, whether they vote against their own party, or obstain. Won't matter. That's what I see coming down the pike.

1,758 posted on 10/31/2005 3:22:55 PM PST by Allen H (Remember 9-11,God bless our military,Bush,& the USA! A sad ACLU, for a better America!!!)
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To: TSchmereL
I think one can actually be pro-choice and still want Roe v. Wade overturned. Why? Because all Roe v. Wade did was tell the states they they could not prohibit abortions.

I agree 100%. In fact, Ruth Bader Ginsburg disagrees with Roe but is certainly pro-choice. She would certainly never vote to overturn it though.

Your scenario of an post overturned Roe world is very accurate. Abortions aren't going away even with Roe overturned. The only state that might prohibit them completely would be Utah.

I don't think that any state would restrict them to the extent of only for rape, incest or harm to the mother. There would probably be waiting periods and more hoops to jump through as you said, but that would be about it.

To be clear, I'm not advocating this sort of result but just pointing out what I think the result would be.

1,759 posted on 10/31/2005 3:24:20 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: ekwd

Who is it that we're turning power over to that were responsible for the horrible decision making process that was the Vietnam War? Most of the people who called shots back then are dead now, or out of government/military, and most of them were democrats. It was the kennedy then johnson administrations that started the war after all, and started it on a blatant lie. The Turner Joy never having been fired on by the North Vietnamese, but Johnson got on nation wide TV and claimed it was anyway, to turn it into a war big war for his Brown and Root buddies. I don't see how any of the conservatives currently leading the conservative movement can at all be blamed for the disaster that was Vietnam. I'm not sure what you mean.


1,760 posted on 10/31/2005 3:26:38 PM PST by Allen H (Remember 9-11,God bless our military,Bush,& the USA! A sad ACLU, for a better America!!!)
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