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Miers on Abortion - from the Washington Post, et al
ConfirmThem.com, et al ^ | 10-26-05 | TitansAFC

Posted on 10/26/2005 8:37:20 AM PDT by TitansAFC

Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers said in a speech more than a decade ago that “self-determination” should guide decisions about abortion and school prayer and that in cases where scientific facts are disputed and religious beliefs vary, “government should not act.”

In an undated speech given in the spring of 1993 to the Executive Women of Dallas, Miers appeared to offer a libertarian view of several topics in which the law and religious beliefs were colliding in court.

“The ongoing debate continues surrounding the attempt to once again criminalize abortions or to once and for all guarantee the freedom of the individual women’s [sic] right to decide for herself whether she will have an abortion,” Miers said.

Those seeking to resolve such disputes would do well to remember that “we gave up” a long time ago on “legislating religion or morality,” she said. And “when science cannot determine the facts and decisions vary based upon religious belief, then government should not act.”

“My basic message here is that when you hear the courts blamed for activism or intrusion where they do not belong, stop and examine what the elected leadership has done to solve the problem at issue,” she said.


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KEYWORDS: bush; harrietmiers; miers; scotus; socialengineering; souterinaskirt; supremecourt
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Back in the "Totally Opposed" column now.....
1 posted on 10/26/2005 8:37:21 AM PDT by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC
"“My basic message here is that when you hear the courts blamed for activism or intrusion where they do not belong, stop and examine what the elected leadership has done to solve the problem at issue,” she said."

For those of you in the "wait for the hearings" group, this is the be all, end all of this nominee. This is not a strict constructionist; this is our worst damn nightmare.
2 posted on 10/26/2005 8:41:20 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: NJ_gent
"“My basic message here is that when you hear the courts blamed for activism or intrusion where they do not belong, stop and examine what the elected leadership has done to solve the problem at issue,” she said."

Courts are there to settle cases, not solve issues. She sounds like the anti-Roberts.

3 posted on 10/26/2005 8:43:26 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (In DC, Pork is what's for dinner)
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To: TitansAFC
The ongoing debate continues...

Can an ongoing debate stop and still be ongoing?

4 posted on 10/26/2005 8:43:38 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: TitansAFC

I think that the libertarian belief of letting one do what they will with their own body only works with abortion when you assume that the baby inside the woman isn't a person and has no rights.


5 posted on 10/26/2005 8:43:41 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: TitansAFC

Link to the Wash Post article on this here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/25/AR2005102502038_pf.html

PDF file of the speech, here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/documents/miers/EWDSpeech.pdf


6 posted on 10/26/2005 8:45:01 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (In DC, Pork is what's for dinner)
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To: NJ_gent
For those of you in the "wait for the hearings" group, this is the be all, end all of this nominee. This is not a strict constructionist; this is our worst damn nightmare.

But not Bush's. His wife and parents favor "choice", and probably he as well.

7 posted on 10/26/2005 8:45:40 AM PDT by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Ditto that. Libertarians who recognize the basic facts of human reproduction are pro-life.


8 posted on 10/26/2005 8:49:23 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: dubyaismypresident

The White House says not to get into a "snit" over this.

This is just devastating.....just devastating.


9 posted on 10/26/2005 8:50:41 AM PDT by TitansAFC ("'C' is for 'cookie,' that's good enough for me" -- C. Monster)
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I'm sure Miers is a nice person; I'm sure she's been loyal to our President. But she isn't SC material.


10 posted on 10/26/2005 8:50:50 AM PDT by Kjobs
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To: TitansAFC

After reading the full speech I detect little if any libertarianism but great big doses of across the board liberalism.


11 posted on 10/26/2005 8:51:37 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (In DC, Pork is what's for dinner)
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To: Shalom Israel

“The ongoing debate continues surrounding the attempt to once again criminalize abortions or to once and for all guarantee the freedom of the individual women’s [sic] right to decide for herself whether she will have an abortion,” Miers said.

SOUTER CLONE


12 posted on 10/26/2005 8:54:44 AM PDT by notes2005
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She sounds like the anti-Roberts.

Where an unanswered question is: is that good or bad?

13 posted on 10/26/2005 8:55:04 AM PDT by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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Where an unanswered question is: is that good or bad?

I meant it in the negative way.

14 posted on 10/26/2005 8:56:29 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (In DC, Pork is what's for dinner)
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To: notes2005

Read the whole speech. She makes Souter sound like Scalia.


15 posted on 10/26/2005 8:57:13 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (In DC, Pork is what's for dinner)
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"But not Bush's. His wife and parents favor "choice", and probably he as well."

Bingo. Bush came out against partial birth abortion, but I cannot for the life of me remember him ever saying that abortion should be illegal, period.

I'm sure Miers believes as President Bush does. I trust him on that. The question is: Would we want President Bush on the SCOTUS?


16 posted on 10/26/2005 8:59:07 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Sad, but true.


17 posted on 10/26/2005 9:00:02 AM PDT by notes2005
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Remeber, SHE is PERSONALLY opposed to abortion, and is an evangelical (wink).

The speech is interesting too, in that she discussed a voter turn-down of school funding as something that might need to be settled by the courts.

18 posted on 10/26/2005 9:02:05 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: TitansAFC
These are not the words of an "originalist", these are not the words of someone who thinks judges should not legislate from the bench, these are not the words of a conservative. This is not what the president should be seeing when he looks into the heart of a potential nominee.

I am convinced that she is not only woefully unqualified for the position, but that she would be horribly bad as a justice from every perspective that matters to me as a lawyer, former judge, and Conservative Republican Pro-Life Catholic Red Sox fanatic. (While I'm not sure what her position on baseball would be, I feel confident in asserting that she would screw that up as well.)

STOP, Mr. President. STOP! Please!

19 posted on 10/26/2005 10:03:08 AM PDT by Cincinnatus
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For those of you in the "wait for the hearings" group, this is the be all, end all of this nominee. This is not a strict constructionist; this is our worst damn nightmare.

I agree. And I'm not a sexist either...

20 posted on 10/26/2005 10:05:05 AM PDT by GOPJ (Protest a democrat -- light your hair on fire -- and the MSM still won't take your picture.)
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