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expecting sirens and "impeachment" parties from the moonbat liberals.

Here is to hoping that it is Wilson and Plame to be indicted.

Fitz better have a helluva tight case for indicting Rove/Cheney/Libby

1 posted on 10/25/2005 3:55:36 PM PDT by DCBryan1
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I don't believe anyone involved in this ugly mess. Nobody is trustworthy.


766 posted on 10/25/2005 7:59:29 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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I think is generally believed that Cheney is NOT in jeopardy.


771 posted on 10/25/2005 8:02:52 PM PDT by expatpat
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"double sourced" indeed.
If anyone connected to the OSP or the Grand Jury leaked, they are guilty of a crime.
A crime actually worse than the suspected guilty parties supposedly committed.


814 posted on 10/25/2005 8:22:01 PM PDT by Cincinna (HILLARY and her HINO want to take over your country. STOP THEM NOW!)
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It would certainly be refreshing to see the actual person responsible for blowing Plame's coverage charged: Joe Wilson and his mega ego.


I know this has been a story about nothing. Joe Wilson planned it that way...little known professional government employee manages to reach the lofty pages of the NYT and embarrass a President and suddenly make millions. As if there was any concern that his wife's "cover" might be blown....nope, no concern because they'd already planned on this new lifestyle.

What a sad waste of time and money to feed the ego of a pretty marginal human being who contributes nothing positive to society (except perhaps great laughs at the expense of honorable men like Bush & Cheney & Libby). The truth will come out eventually, perhaps not soon enough but someday....Joe Wilson will reap the chaos he caused others.
836 posted on 10/25/2005 8:36:45 PM PDT by SergeantsLady (I support my soldier by supporting the mission he believes in...)
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IMPORTANT: Please read the article below, which points out by using FACTS, that there was NO CRIME COMMITTED, so how can you have indictments?!

Case against aides (doesn't have leg to stand on. (Valerie Plame case) (MUST READ: NO CRIME)

877 posted on 10/25/2005 9:15:37 PM PDT by FairOpinion (CA Props: Vote for Reform: YES on 73-78, NO on 79 & 80, NO on Y)
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Fitz better have a helluva tight case for indicting Rove/Cheney/Libby

There's no case, because there's no crime. Somebody called bull*** on a slimy, socialist hack and his bubblehead wife's lies.

And 22 months later, we're still dealing with it.

I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone.

894 posted on 10/25/2005 10:00:23 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Indict all of us, while you're at it.)
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Did you see this?

** A former CIA covert agent who supervised Mrs. Plame early in her career yesterday took issue with her identification as an "undercover agent," saying that she worked for more than five years at the agency's headquarters in Langley and that most of her neighbors and friends knew that she was a CIA employee.
"She made no bones about the fact that she was an agency employee and her husband was a diplomat," Fred Rustmann, a covert agent from 1966 to 1990, told The Washington Times.**


896 posted on 10/25/2005 10:11:37 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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CBS’ JOHN ROBERTS: Lawyers familiar with the case think

Who specifically. Any lawers familiar should be quiet.

Probably just ol Dan Blather hangin out at Kinkos with his new Home Legal Kit software pretending he's an attorney and faxin off memos the CBS HQ .....
897 posted on 10/25/2005 10:31:18 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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Have you noticed how the MSM can't say Valerie Plame (er Flame) without tacking on "covert CIA agent"? She had a desk job after Aldrich Ames. Covert my butt! Everybody in DC knew who she was - Wilson probably couldn't keep his mouth shut on the social circuit.


914 posted on 10/26/2005 5:53:09 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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LOOKS LIKE ABC NEWS IS READING THE LEFTIST BLOGS THIS WAS ALL OVER THE LEFTIST BLOGS YESTERDAY:

An uber-insider source has just reported the following to Steve Clemons of The Washington Note (since confirmed by another independent source):

1. 1-5 indictments are being issued. The source feels that it will be towards the higher end.

2. The targets of indictment have already received their letters.

3. The indictments will be sealed indictments and "filed" tomorrow.

4. A press conference is being scheduled for Thursday.

The shoe is dropping.

915 posted on 10/26/2005 6:06:48 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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The one person who has been on top of the Plame investigation has been Tom Mcguire.

Here are his predictions regarding indictments...




October 26, 2005

Better To Be Wrong Than Gutless

If my blog hosting service is willing, I will post my *PURELY SPECULATIVE* guesses in the Plame leak investigation:

Karl Rove walks - no indictment, nada. Jeralyn Merritt, who has been doing a superb job on this, keeps the flame flickering for a "False statements" charge based on Rove's early forgettery of his conversation with Matt Cooper of TIME. Based on the evidence leaked so far, it won't happen.

Think back to the controversial Martha Stewart case: Martha went down on a false statements charge, but as supporting evidence of her criminal intent the prosecution had evidence that she may have altered her records, supplemented by troubling testimony from her broker's assistant and a personal friend.

With Rove, as best we know, we have Karl failing to recall his conversation with Matt Cooper when asked by Federal investigators in 2003; the defense will have fun with the fact that the Department of Justice failed to ask about contacts with Matt Cooper in their original document request, so let's not underestimate Mike Copper Matt Cooper's forgettability.

Eventually, in response to a second set of subpoenas, the relevant email between Rove and Hadley was found, Rove's attorney notified the Special Counsel, and Rove corrected his testimony. Based on the leaks so far, this is far from a Martha Stewart scenario.

OK, on to the fall guys:

John Hannah had CIA links, so he can't convincingly plead ignorance about Ms. Plame's status. He gets a wrist slap for misuse of classified information. (Q: Does a "wrist slap" mean "no jail time", or "short time"? A: Hmm, even "short" would seem long to me; no waffling here... No jail time it is. And get your own 8-Ball). Hannah's offense - he was Novak's primary source.

David Wurmser also has CIA links, and he gets a wrist slap for leaking to Walter Pincus of the WaPo.

And Libby? He goes to trial, or walks. My full psychic prediction is that he will turn down a plea deal (after negotiating about what might have been disclosed in the accompanying indictment) and say to Fitzgerald, "Bring it on, Irish".

*If* they are filed, charges will be perjury and obstruction, as well as a conspiracy to misuse classified info. However, Fitzgerald has very serious doubts about some of his star witnesses, such as Judy Miller. Both sides are weighing the implications of the venue for a trial - Libby knows it won't be Berkeley, but it still might not be favorable for him. However, it might be politically awkward for Libby to ask for a change in venue. Of course, getting tossed into stir can be awkward, too.

No waffling: Libby goes to trial. The good news with this scenario is that otherwise, we will never know what the heck happened. Libby better plan to win, or lose, by Jan 19, 2009.

Final predictions - today is Wednesday, and if the Astros win the Series they will need seven games. There - I can't be all wrong.


922 posted on 10/26/2005 7:02:59 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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The big fish is Rove. The Daily Kos crowd will open a vein if he's not indicted. And I'll happily hand them the razor...


924 posted on 10/26/2005 7:20:20 AM PDT by veronica (What will "Ronnie" think? The question that obsesses the internut clowns...)
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OMG!!! Does this mean ABC News will be put on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION FOR LYING?????????? Probably not. Lies are okay for leftist, communists, liberals, socialist and the MSM. A way of life.
926 posted on 10/26/2005 8:17:33 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Socialist Dems, the MSM and Islamic murderers, ALL threats to the Republic!)
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Remember when the White House Press Corp informed W that Yasser Arafat just died? Never believe a bunch of liars that make up the WH press corp.


943 posted on 10/26/2005 12:11:58 PM PDT by jackieaxe (English speaking, law abiding, taxpaying citizen)
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The woman that wrote the law, that Libby & Rove supposedly broke, said that it was written to protect operatives IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES!

She said she thinks this whole quagmire was a covert operation by the CIA designed to overthrow the Bush administration and that if anyone should be indicted, it should be Wilson.

My source was the Sean Hannity radio show in which he spoke to this woman.


944 posted on 10/26/2005 2:41:12 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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Maybe someone already has said this (I haven't read all the comments), but folks, an indictment is not the same as a trial and it sure as heck isn't a conviction. For the life of me, I cannot understand why the media gets so excited about indictments.


950 posted on 10/26/2005 3:35:19 PM PDT by OldPossum
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"We have double sourced that the vice president's chief of staff has been indicted,"

Does this mean that ABC usually only uses 1 source, or do they usually use more than 2 sources?


954 posted on 10/26/2005 7:55:43 PM PDT by mjaneangels@aolcom
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So let's get this straight you want to criminalize somebody allegedly telling the truth. Because he allgedly put a "Undercover" CIA agent's life if jeopardy. A CIA agent whose job is to type reports? Is Al-Queda targeting typists now?


956 posted on 10/27/2005 4:16:24 AM PDT by psychopuppy
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Neener, neener, neener. ABC. The fantasy news network.


959 posted on 10/28/2005 9:58:09 AM PDT by GVnana
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