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Whose Agenda are you Parrotting When You Do NOT Support Miers?
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Posted on 10/22/2005 9:19:11 AM PDT by Calpernia

For those of you promoting the agenda of NOT supporting Harriet Miers, take a look at where you are siding.

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Not in Our Name project.

They are SDS/Weatherman.

From FBI Files:

Weatherman or Weather Underground Organization, is a "revolutionary organization of communist men and women" formed by members of the Students for a Democratic Society or SDS. They were originally called the Revolutionary Youth Movement. They advocated the overthrow of our government and capitalism. They carried out a campaign of bombings, jailbreaks, and riots in 1969-1976.

The group derived their name from Bob Dylan's song lyrics from "Subterranean Homesick Blues", which were, "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows", I use to see that quote at the bottom of their periodical, New Left Notes, when I use to work at a periodical distribution company.

Their first event, in 1969, was the "Days of Rage" in Chicago. They blew up a statue dedicated to police casualties in the 1886 Haymarket Riot. They announced at a convention that they supported Charles Manson. The rally failed to draw as many participants (300) as they had hoped. They did lead a riot through Chicago's business district, smashing windows and cars. 6 were shot and 70 arrested. The conflict went on for a few days.

1970, after the shooting by police of Black Panther Fred Hampton, the group issued a Declaration of War against the United States government, changing its name to the "weather underground organization", adopting fake IDs, and pursuing covert activities only. These initially included plans for a bombing of a US military noncommissioned officers' dance at Fort Dix. But when three Underground members died in an accidental explosion while preparing the bomb in a Greenwich Village, New York City safe house, other cells re-evaluated their plans and decided to pursue only non-lethal projects.

This group released a number of manifestos and declarations, while conducting a series of bombings. These attacked the U.S. Capitol, The Pentagon, police and prison buildings, and the rebuilt Haymarket statue again, among other targets. The group took measures to avoid any loss of life as a result of these bombings, issuing warnings to evacuate the building ahead of time via phone. They also took a $25,000 payment from a drugs group called The Brotherhood of Eternal Love to break LSD advocate Timothy Leary out of prison, transporting him to Algeria. They remained largely successful at avoiding the police and the FBI.

In the mid-to-late 1970s, the group began dissolving, as many members turned themselves in to the police, and others moved onto other armed revolutionary groups. Very few served prison sentences, since the evidence gathered against them, by the FBI's COINTELPRO program, was inadmissable in court, due to the illegal methods used to obtain it.

Famous members of the Weather Underground include Kathy Boudin, Mark Rudd, Terry Robbins, David Gilbert, and the still-married couple Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers.

Many former Weathermen have re-integrated into society, without necessarily repudiating their original intent. Bill Ayers, now a Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois, said in a September 11, 2001 New York Times profile "I don't regret setting bombs. I believe we didn't do enough."

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If you aren't supporting Harriet Miers, take some time to do a search of BUSHCOMMISSION.ORG. Not a site search. A search to see where info is pulled from:

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22bushcommission.org%22&hl=en&lr=&filter=0

Make sure if you are not on the side of supporting Miers, it isn't information that came from SDS, Not In Our Name, MoveOn.org, of the NLG.


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To: Calpernia
I'm not going to spend time trying to answer that question with lots of research. I simply don't have that kind of time this AM, but I can tell you that calling people sexist and elitists is generally not seen as a positive statement. I have seen people argue here that Gillespie was right which shows that there has been give and take from both sides of this issue at FR.
401 posted on 10/23/2005 7:05:56 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner

I've not seen any pro Miers people call anyone sexist or elitists. I was being honest, not challenging.


402 posted on 10/23/2005 7:09:42 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
This women's stance on various issues should make all conservatives proud. END SARCASM!

WASHINGTON – Harriet Miers, President Bush's nominee to the U.S. Supreme Court to replace Sandra Day O'Connor, is on record as supporting the establishment of the International Criminal Court, homosexual adoptions, a major local tax increase and women in combat, WorldNetDaily has learned.

While some conservative leaders and organizations were stunned by the appointment, most were not alarmed by the lack of a paper trail by the nominee who has never served as a judge at any level.

But a profile of her positions as a leader of the American Bar Association, a Dallas city councilwoman and as presidential counselor is unlikely to ease the concerns of those who were expecting Bush to fulfill his promise to name a justice in the mold of Clarence Thomas or Antonin Scalia.

According to Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness, Miers has taken positions as White House counsel that violate the law banning women in combat.

"As White House counsel, Ms. Miers either approved of the Department of Defense's illegal assignments of women in units required to be all-male, which is still continuing in violation of the law requiring notice to Congress in advance, or she was oblivious to the legal consequences of those assignments," she said.

Donnelly believes the actions of Miers could lead directly to a future court ruling requiring women to register with the Selective Service for the draft because they are now being, against the wishes of Congress, assigned to land combat.

"I am very disappointed by the president's choice," she said. "Ms. Miers does not have a judicial 'paper trail,' but her record as White House counsel is a legitimate cause for concern. Democrats and liberals who were willing to use the military for purposes of social experimentation have reason to be pleased."

Donnelly also concludes that Miers approved the Bush administrations retention of President Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell" regulations, which, she says, are different from the 1993 law passed by Congress

Meanwhile, during Miers long affiliation with the American Bar Association, she submitted a 1999 report to the ABA's house of delegates that included recommendations to develop and establish an International Criminal Court and the enactment of laws and public policy providing that the sexual orientation of adults be no bar to adoption of children.

Under the heading Family Law and subheading Adoption, the document states: "Supports the enactment of laws and public policy which provide that sexual orientation shall not be a bar to adoption when the adoption is determined to be in the best interest of the child."

Also included, under the heading International Law and Practice, is a recommendation for "the development and establishment of an International Criminal Court."

Along with the proposed agenda was a memo, dated Oct. 28, 1998, that explained the document.

"The Committee urges all Delegates to review this list for items of interest to their constituencies, and to act as the catalyst for further contact and action so that each entity will have the earliest opportunity for consideration and input."

The memo is signed by Miers as chairwoman of the Select Committee of the House.

As a city councilwoman, Miers also said Dallas had a responsibility to pay for AIDS education and patient services. And she courted the support of the Lesbian/Gay Coalition of Dallas in her successful 1989 campaign.

In addition, economic conservatives pleased by her corporate law background may find it distressing that in 1990 Miers voted for a 7 percent property tax increase during her short tenure on the Dallas City Council.

403 posted on 10/23/2005 7:14:44 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner

And you missed the point of my post.


404 posted on 10/23/2005 7:25:13 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Earthdweller
[You quoting me] "She defended a lawsuit against the law firm of which she was president, in which unethical and illegal behavior by her firm was alleged, and lost -- or she didn't. (Hint: She did.)"

[You, leading with your chin] Unsubstantiated accusations.

Not really. Get your lawyer or librarian boot Lexis/Nexis and pull up, searching on Miers's law firm and Lomas & Nettleton, a Texas state case decided in IIRC 1995 in the state district court in Texarkana.

The opinion in that case is substantive, not "unsubstantiated", and the allegations of improper conduct with respect to a client's property, and the opinion of the court in granting in part a motion by Lomas's new counsel for summary judgment, add up to specific and substantial accusations borne in and found true.

405 posted on 10/23/2005 7:46:36 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: conservativecorner
See this part from the article?

>>>As a city councilwoman, Miers also said Dallas had a responsibility to pay for AIDS education and patient services. And she courted the support of the Lesbian/Gay Coalition of Dallas in her successful 1989 campaign.<<<

Here is Miers application to the Lesbian/Gay Coalition of Dallas.

Lesbian Gay Coalition of Dallas - Harriet Miers

She has checked NO for requesting funds for funds and NO for their endorsement.

I went to the links that the article you posted have.

http://www.abanet.org/leadership/sneak2.html

I don't see Harriet Miers name. Do you know where I can find this memo?

406 posted on 10/23/2005 8:07:57 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
Lesbian Gay Coalition of Dallas - Harriet Miers

She has checked NO for requesting funds for funds and NO for their endorsement.

How do you read the gay candidate screener's handwritten comments at the very bottom of the last page? The part below the annotation

"My personal conviction is not consistent with the homosexual lifestyle"...?

Can't make that out fully -- very cryptic. Something about "housing"?

407 posted on 10/23/2005 12:24:02 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Calpernia

"I've not seen any pro Miers people call anyone sexist or elitists"

LOL. Then you may want to get out more.

Start from day one of the miers stories here on free republic and then go forward. You'll find charges of elitism, sexism, helping the terrorists, and more.


408 posted on 10/23/2005 12:26:01 PM PDT by flashbunny (What is more important: Loyalty to principles, or loyalty to personalities?)
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To: flashbunny

Again. I've not seen any pro Miers people call anyone sexist or elitists.


409 posted on 10/23/2005 12:41:52 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I don't see anything in the handwritten notes that conflicts with the questionnaire.


410 posted on 10/23/2005 12:44:30 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: lentulusgracchus

She probably should have been a physician with that handwriting though.


411 posted on 10/23/2005 12:45:18 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: lentulusgracchus; Earthdweller
Not really. Get your lawyer or librarian boot Lexis/Nexis and pull up, searching on Miers's law firm and Lomas & Nettleton, a Texas state case decided in IIRC 1995 in the state district court in Texarkana.

There are a couple of cases at the U. Mich site, but from your desctiption of the TX case, I don't believe it appears in that list.

University of Michigan Law Library. Hot Topic: Harriet Miers
In Re Lomas Financial Corporation (95-01235) (Bank. D. DE, 1999)
Zacharjasz v. Lomas and Nettleton Co. (87-4303) (E.D. PA, 1989)

412 posted on 10/23/2005 12:54:12 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
"There are a couple of cases at the U. Mich site, but from your desctiption of the TX case, I don't believe it appears in that list."

Not surprising.

413 posted on 10/23/2005 1:02:34 PM PDT by Earthdweller (If Miers turns out to be the anti-Roe vote that could have been..Blame the NRO!!)
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To: Calpernia
I've not seen any pro Miers people call anyone sexist or elitists.

By Peter Baker and Dan Balz
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, October 6, 2005; A01

The conservative uprising against President Bush escalated yesterday as Republican activists angry over his nomination of White House counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court confronted the president's envoys during a pair of tense closed-door meetings.

A day after Bush publicly beseeched skeptical supporters to trust his judgment on Miers, a succession of prominent conservative leaders told his representatives that they did not. Over the course of several hours of sometimes testy exchanges, the dissenters complained that Miers was an unknown quantity with a thin résumé and that her selection -- Bush called her "the best person I could find" -- was a betrayal of years of struggle to move the court to the right.

At one point in the first of the two off-the-record sessions, according to several people in the room, White House adviser Ed Gillespie suggested that some of the unease about Miers "has a whiff of sexism and a whiff of elitism." Irate participants erupted and demanded that he take it back. Gillespie later said he did not mean to accuse anyone in the room but "was talking more broadly" about criticism of Miers.

Conservatives Confront Bush Aides


414 posted on 10/23/2005 1:15:17 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
  • according to several people in the room
  • suggested
  • whiff

How about direct quotes?

415 posted on 10/23/2005 1:18:46 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: fallujah-nuker
Roger Daltry and Pete Townsend have come out against Harriet Miers?

In that case, it'd be (The) Whos. Still no apostrophe. Now, if they OWNED an agenda, you would be correct. :o)

416 posted on 10/23/2005 1:29:49 PM PDT by arasina (Praying for Pookie! (So there.))
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To: Calpernia
How about direct quotes?

If that's the standard, there haven't been any insults at all, by either side.

417 posted on 10/23/2005 1:32:35 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

>>>> If that's the standard, there haven't been any insults at all, by either side.

WRONG.


418 posted on 10/23/2005 1:33:33 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
Just yanking your chain.

I gave you the genesis of the charge of elitism and sexism. Take it FWIW.

419 posted on 10/23/2005 1:37:12 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Calpernia

So can I say that when you support higher federal gvt spending you are "parroting socialists/ communists"?


420 posted on 10/23/2005 2:46:32 PM PDT by Pessimist
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