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Whose Agenda are you Parrotting When You Do NOT Support Miers?
Net Searches ^ | October 22, 2005

Posted on 10/22/2005 9:19:11 AM PDT by Calpernia

For those of you promoting the agenda of NOT supporting Harriet Miers, take a look at where you are siding.

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Not in Our Name project.

They are SDS/Weatherman.

From FBI Files:

Weatherman or Weather Underground Organization, is a "revolutionary organization of communist men and women" formed by members of the Students for a Democratic Society or SDS. They were originally called the Revolutionary Youth Movement. They advocated the overthrow of our government and capitalism. They carried out a campaign of bombings, jailbreaks, and riots in 1969-1976.

The group derived their name from Bob Dylan's song lyrics from "Subterranean Homesick Blues", which were, "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows", I use to see that quote at the bottom of their periodical, New Left Notes, when I use to work at a periodical distribution company.

Their first event, in 1969, was the "Days of Rage" in Chicago. They blew up a statue dedicated to police casualties in the 1886 Haymarket Riot. They announced at a convention that they supported Charles Manson. The rally failed to draw as many participants (300) as they had hoped. They did lead a riot through Chicago's business district, smashing windows and cars. 6 were shot and 70 arrested. The conflict went on for a few days.

1970, after the shooting by police of Black Panther Fred Hampton, the group issued a Declaration of War against the United States government, changing its name to the "weather underground organization", adopting fake IDs, and pursuing covert activities only. These initially included plans for a bombing of a US military noncommissioned officers' dance at Fort Dix. But when three Underground members died in an accidental explosion while preparing the bomb in a Greenwich Village, New York City safe house, other cells re-evaluated their plans and decided to pursue only non-lethal projects.

This group released a number of manifestos and declarations, while conducting a series of bombings. These attacked the U.S. Capitol, The Pentagon, police and prison buildings, and the rebuilt Haymarket statue again, among other targets. The group took measures to avoid any loss of life as a result of these bombings, issuing warnings to evacuate the building ahead of time via phone. They also took a $25,000 payment from a drugs group called The Brotherhood of Eternal Love to break LSD advocate Timothy Leary out of prison, transporting him to Algeria. They remained largely successful at avoiding the police and the FBI.

In the mid-to-late 1970s, the group began dissolving, as many members turned themselves in to the police, and others moved onto other armed revolutionary groups. Very few served prison sentences, since the evidence gathered against them, by the FBI's COINTELPRO program, was inadmissable in court, due to the illegal methods used to obtain it.

Famous members of the Weather Underground include Kathy Boudin, Mark Rudd, Terry Robbins, David Gilbert, and the still-married couple Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers.

Many former Weathermen have re-integrated into society, without necessarily repudiating their original intent. Bill Ayers, now a Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois, said in a September 11, 2001 New York Times profile "I don't regret setting bombs. I believe we didn't do enough."

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>>>>make this a ferocious confirmation battle in the Senate

>>>>show the conservative credentials insufficient for many on the right.

If you aren't supporting Harriet Miers, take some time to do a search of BUSHCOMMISSION.ORG. Not a site search. A search to see where info is pulled from:

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22bushcommission.org%22&hl=en&lr=&filter=0

Make sure if you are not on the side of supporting Miers, it isn't information that came from SDS, Not In Our Name, MoveOn.org, of the NLG.


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To: lentulusgracchus

>>>> Just because the President says he wants her, and just because he says "trust me", isn't good enough -- really, it isn't.

It may be true that isn't a good enough reason.

But since Not In Out Name has put so much effort in to fight this and has issued the guidelines of talking points.....

THAT combined with Bush makes me confident in supporting her.

Propaganda works both ways.


361 posted on 10/22/2005 7:46:47 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

"Nice way to splice a post again to change what I said in my post."

Nope, I don't splice. If you'll recall I asked you to be clear, you said that you had already answered.....

Now what EXACTLY did I splice? If you want ANOTHER opportunity to be clear, fine, explain what it is you meant......But I have to tell you, from post #1 to now, I seriously can't tell if you are insane or not.


362 posted on 10/22/2005 7:49:00 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Revolting cat!

>>>>Oh great, Calhernia, so now we're communists in addition to being sexist elitists! I luv accumulating these titles by correspondence.

You belong to SDS? I wouldn't post that on a public message board if I were you.


363 posted on 10/22/2005 7:52:45 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: muawiyah

Hmmmmm, well, I don't think one needs to delve into the technical aspects of heresy to find a reason to oppose this nomination.

I just don't see that as a serious factor......but maybe it matters to someone.


364 posted on 10/22/2005 7:54:32 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
I've heard she left the Catholic church, hence fitting the technical definition as a heretic, but you really think that Catholics are driving opposition to her because of this? I don't.

The Diocese of Dallas just reported that she was never on the rolls there. The White House has admitted it was an error.

So I think this conversion angle is a moot point.

It's not why so many conservatives were disappointed in the ruling. If Bush wanted an evangelical Texas woman for the Cout, he could have picked Owens or Jones, and no one on the Right would have batted an eyelash over *their* faith.

365 posted on 10/22/2005 8:03:58 PM PDT by The Iguana
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To: Revolting cat!

You can read it again. I don't need to repost

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1507280/posts?page=326#326


366 posted on 10/22/2005 8:11:01 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: RFEngineer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1507280/posts?page=366#366 was for you, not revolting cat.


367 posted on 10/22/2005 8:12:31 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: The Iguana
Doesn't mean a thing to not be on the rolls of the Diocese of Dallas. I have a friend who is a verifiable member of a Uniate congregation in Pennsylvania yet he attends an RC church in this area rather than a Uniate church.

To get on the rolls he'd have to spend a lot of money running through a church law process to transfer from the Ukrainian Rite to the Roman Rite.

Back to the point,

http://www.adherents.com/people/pm/Harriet_Miers.html covers the issue and suggests maybe Harriett was never a member of the Catholic Church, although that attendance at Episcopal churches suggests strongly that she had leanings that way in her youth.

Maybe we ought to call her and ask her. BTW, if this particular report factually covers the situation, then Buchanan and his gumbahs over at National Review can pull back from their kneejerk response to her nomination ~ those bad boys were out there on the street in minutes bad mouthing her.

368 posted on 10/22/2005 8:15:11 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again? How'bout a double sarcasm for this one)
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To: Calpernia

You ARE insane. There is no splice, and the posts go exactly as I described them, including the request to be clear.

Now I ask again, be clear this time: Is there NO opposition to Miers that is reasonable?

"Yes" or "no" would be a clear answer, if you so choose.


369 posted on 10/22/2005 8:19:20 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Earthdweller
I am stating that one of the reasons I oppose Ms. Miers' nomination is that she was a proponent of the IOLTA program with which I disagreed.

I do not know why I need to wait for hearings to reach that conclusion since I experienced first-hand Ms. Miers' tenure as State Bar President and the ensuing debate over the propriety of the IOLTA program.

I did not suggest that Ms. Miers inappropriately used funds in a legal sense since that is not the case as the Supreme Court eventually upheld the validity of a similar IOLTA program. I do suggest that Ms. Miers' prior support of the IOLTA program contradicts the White House's claim that she is a conservative as the Texas IOLTA program was driven by liberal activists within the Texas State Bar.

370 posted on 10/22/2005 8:19:57 PM PDT by writmeister
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To: RFEngineer

Obviously you can't read.

So goodnight.


371 posted on 10/22/2005 8:23:15 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

"Obviously you can't read.

So goodnight."


See, I knew you wouldn't answer the question. Sleep tight, and dream of reality tonight.


372 posted on 10/22/2005 8:26:20 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: muawiyah
I knew eventually someone would start accusing NR of opposing her on the basis of her having left the Catholic Church (even though the story is apparently untrue).

Frankly, I think it's a silly accusation, but be my guest.

For crying out loud, they have Derbyshire writing for them! Not exactly a foaming-at-the-mouth Papist, to say the least.

373 posted on 10/22/2005 8:28:51 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Calpernia
Guess who breaths oxygen: you may be surprised...

Adolf Hitler (breathed oxygen for most of his life)
Pol Pot (yup, he breathed it too)
Bill Clinton (that depends on what the meaning of 'breath' is)
Hillary Clinton
Rasputin (he may not have got as much as anyone else, but he breathed it.)

Pretty lame post. Maybe you'll do better next time.

374 posted on 10/22/2005 8:43:52 PM PDT by Washi (You can't get rid of poverty by giving people money.)
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To: GarySpFc
A sampling of 3,000 is valid, but not when taken among murders and thieves. Mind you, I am not name calling anyone, only making a point.

Then just what IS your point?

375 posted on 10/23/2005 3:20:42 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (read my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: Calpernia

Yes, yes, I know: Every time I criticize anything Bush does, G-d kills a kitten.


376 posted on 10/23/2005 3:31:51 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: Lazamataz

>>>>Yes, yes, I know: Every time I criticize anything Bush does, G-d kills a kitten.

You miss understood my post. Trying reading it again.


377 posted on 10/23/2005 3:34:48 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
I read it. I know what you are trying to say, Most everyone on this thread did as well.

It is a simple attempt to silence dissent. Period.

I have to go.

378 posted on 10/23/2005 3:36:48 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: Lazamataz

No, you misread.


379 posted on 10/23/2005 3:40:16 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: GarySpFc
Sorry, but I and others are rapidly coming to the conclusion we are not on the same side.

I agree. I am on the side that is loyal to principles and ideals.

You are on the side that is loyal to a man.

380 posted on 10/23/2005 3:40:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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