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White House warns holdouts
U.S.News.com ^ | 10/13/05 | Kenneth T. Walsh

Posted on 10/13/2005 5:47:35 PM PDT by baystaterebel

White House officials have a message for conservative Republican senators who have expressed doubt about supporting Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers.

The West Wing types argue that she will turn out to be just as conservative as President Bush says she is, and voting against her would be an embarrassment over the long term. This message is intended for holdouts including Sam Brownback of Kansas, Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, and Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania.

"If Miers is confirmed and she winds up being what the president says she is, Republican senators who voted against her will look quite foolish," says a GOP insider. This could cause a backlash against these legislators from conservative Bush supporters at the grass roots.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: miers; scotus
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To: empirekin768
Well stated. You are so right.

It would seem also that friends like Miers, are more important than the hundreds and thousands of nameless and faceless people throughout the country, who sacrificed time and money to help achieve victory for the President, the Party and the Conservative Cause. He has blown what should be a grand, victorious moment in history for us all.

It is frankly stunning. I encountered three Liberals I know today, and they are relieved and even gleeful over the Miers nomination. One liberal college professor I am acquainted with, couldn't be happier. This is his happiest moment in all five years of the Bush Presidency. It should be the best moment thus far for all conservatives, NOT Liberals. It isn't.

181 posted on 10/13/2005 7:29:09 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (It's the Supreme Court, stupid!)
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To: baystaterebel

I agree. There are two phrases I am absolutely sick of hearing: price gouging and Harriet Miers. Why can't all these bloviators wait for the hearings. Conservatives are coming across as spoiled babies who didn't get their way. That crap belongs on the playground. Wait until she has said a few things and then critisize if you want. Now is way too soon.


182 posted on 10/13/2005 7:29:28 PM PDT by csmusaret (Urban Sprawl is an oxymoron)
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To: cherub05

Well-stated. The inside-the-beltway crowd puts a great store in the ability to bend over and suck-up! This Lady doesn't do it, thus, she is not acceptable.


183 posted on 10/13/2005 7:29:48 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (9/11 - "WE WILL NEVER FORGET!")
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To: flashbunny
Can't pressure the rinos to support conservative nominees, or they'll bolt the party!

But we need to support the rinos against conservatives in the primaries, because we them to support our conservative court picks!

We can't put through conservative nominees, because we have all these RINOs in the senate!

Which is why Spector just galls the heck out of me more so than normal.

184 posted on 10/13/2005 7:31:41 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA and SAS) 2005 WI PPA/CCW Ping List ~Contact me if you want on/off the ping list~)
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To: af_vet_1981

"Anyone trashing Harriet Miers is evil."

First of all, no one's trashing Harriet Miers and I resent your implication. I think my brother's a great guy, I'm not "trashing" him by saying he's the wrong choice for the CEO of IBM. He and others are reasonable enough to realize it's true.

But if you want to talk about evil, I'll simply remind you that a lot more has been worked in the world out of fanaticism than skepticism.


185 posted on 10/13/2005 7:31:47 PM PDT by empirekin768
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To: Cicero

It would be nice if the Republican senators got their act together. The seem to forget that they were elected as conservatives. If there was a way to set the clock back to a Democrat dictatorship, this is it.


186 posted on 10/13/2005 7:33:01 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub.)
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To: empirekin768
First of all, no one's trashing Harriet Miers ...

No

And the Pope's not Catholic ...

187 posted on 10/13/2005 7:33:05 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Ladysmith

Worst part is the RNC and the white house are doing it all over again with chaffee in rhode island...even running ads using DNC talking points to knock down his more conservative primary challenger.


188 posted on 10/13/2005 7:33:07 PM PDT by flashbunny ("Somebody up there really screwed the pooch on this one." - Jim Robinson)
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To: baystaterebel

"White House officials have a message for conservative Republican senators who have expressed doubt about supporting Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers... she will turn out to be just as conservative as President Bush says she is, and voting against her would be an embarrassment over the long term."

This is also widely known as the TRUST ME argument.


189 posted on 10/13/2005 7:34:06 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: sinkspur
If you vote for Democrats, you'll have to live under those sumb**ches just like I will. You remind me of a guy who threatens to blow his own brains out because he doesn't like something I'm doing.

Well, I can assure you I'd never vote for a Democrat. Ever. Under any circumstances. I could conceivably leave a race unmarked, or vote for a third party, but NEVER a Democrat.

Now that that's out of the way, I believe that the argument you're advancing is that conservatives have a duty to just shut up if they can't actively support the nominee. Isn't there room in our Party for dissent? For honest and heartfelt disagreement?

Are we all expected to just rubberstamp any nominee or position put forth by our President?

Deal me out for that.

I'm undecided about this nominee. I hope to learn more during the confirmation hearings, which I believe she's entitled to.

190 posted on 10/13/2005 7:34:45 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: falpro

Still a loss.


191 posted on 10/13/2005 7:35:12 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: flashbunny

Nothing like shooting yourself in the foot.


192 posted on 10/13/2005 7:36:13 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA and SAS) 2005 WI PPA/CCW Ping List ~Contact me if you want on/off the ping list~)
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To: af_vet_1981
I despise traitors while our men (and women) are being killed overseas. I just despise them.

It's actually because of the overseas issue that I won't be too vocal about my unease with Ms. Miers. And another reason I won't stay at home for midterm elections (not that it matters in Mexifornia). I don't want Democrats elected who will jeapordise the mission. I have faith in my fellow conservatives that even after this division they will remember Iraq and Afghanistan and pull together again. We can be thankful to GW that Reinquest wasn't replaced with a Ginsburg at the very least.
193 posted on 10/13/2005 7:36:14 PM PDT by rom
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To: baystaterebel

Because she could be voted in by a combination of RINOs and Dems. Conservatives may control Congress, but we're not the majority there.


194 posted on 10/13/2005 7:36:38 PM PDT by born in the Bronx
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To: TontoKowalski
I'm undecided about this nominee. I hope to learn more during the confirmation hearings, which I believe she's entitled to.

BINGO! I might end up supporting the nominee, even if Bush still gets my scorn. I'm figuring that the confirmation will go through and she'll seem conservative and all, but that doesn't mean that Bush did the right thing. A better scenario would have been to nominate an openly honest strict-constructionist judge.

195 posted on 10/13/2005 7:38:40 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: rom

No one has worked harder to appoint conservative judges than this President.


196 posted on 10/13/2005 7:38:49 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Ladysmith

hey, the leadership has gotten so good at that they don't even have to clear leather. They can aim and shoot right from the holster now.


197 posted on 10/13/2005 7:38:50 PM PDT by flashbunny ("Somebody up there really screwed the pooch on this one." - Jim Robinson)
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To: falpro
Constructionists come in all shapes and sizes don't ya know.

Aye. There's the rub. Will Miers be a Gonzales constructionst? or an Owen constructionist? "Are you a good witch? or a bad witch?"

199 posted on 10/13/2005 7:40:11 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas; safisoft; RFEngineer

It's the reason we are losing the public on Iraq.

The public looks at Bush's Iraq policy and believes that it consists entirely of stubbornness. Never has this administration levelled with the American people about the fact that things were not supposed to happen this way.


200 posted on 10/13/2005 7:42:09 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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