Posted on 10/13/2005 6:27:39 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
OUR VIEW: 10/13 October 13, 2005
The FBI broke its silence Wednesday and announced, among other things, that a press conference summarizing their investigation is on the way.
As of now, they are “more and more convinced” that Joel Hinrichs was acting alone when he blew himself up on the South Oval Oct. 1. They have found no connection between Hinrichs and any terrorist organization, and dispelled rumors that Jihadist materials were found in Hinrichs’ apartment.
Still, we know that some people will put a lot of effort into contradicting the FBI’s analysis, facts be damned.
But U.S. Rep. Tom Cole, R-Okla., confirmed the FBI has told him the same thing.
And OU President David L. Boren sat down with The Daily Wednesday to discuss the situation. He, too, confirmed that it is (and has been) widely believed by the FBI and those closest to the investigation (himself included) that several claims being perpetuated on the Internet and talk radio stations remain unfounded and false.
We agree. We have agreed. Now we know who agrees with us.
The FBI. The president of OU. A U.S. representative.
Of course, they could all be lying. They could be conspiring to set up an elaborate scheme allowing terrorists the chance to escape punishment because ... ummm ... because the last time terrorists attacked the United States it worked out quite poorly for the current administration?
Right.
Unfortunately, there are several things that will never be known about Joel Hinrichs: whether he intended to kill himself on that bench, or whether he was headed somewhere to cause harm.
Causing harm wouldn’t have been difficult. Hours before the game or hours after the game. People were everywhere. But was he trying to? Was he planning to? Did his bomb accidentally go off? We can’t know. No one can.
What we can and do know is what the rumor-mills inherently must ignore for their theories to have any footing at all.
It must be believed Hinrichs tried to enter the stadium. It must be believed Hinrichs possessed Jihadist materials; that he owned a prayer rug, had frequented a local mosque, had all of those evil intentions in his head that can’t be confirmed or denied.
But there is no proof that he had any of those things, and we have put our thoughts about it on paper several times now.
We have provided the public with the information we know. And unless something new develops, this story will slowly fade away, just as it should.
Unfortunately, we are well aware that some people won’t believe the FBI, Boren or Cole. They don’t believe us. For whatever reason, they want to believe these theories, and, with the Internet, anyone can find anything to support what he or she wants to believe.
The conveniently forget the FACTS that have been reported that don't jive with the official story. One must wonder why the staff at OU is so quick to believe the FBI and their administrators. Doesn't anyone teach them to be questioning?
The interesting things I turned up in my investigations yesterday (which I will repost below) point toward the reason the staff at OU Daily is so intent on participating in this coverup. One must of course - consider the source, and I have a hunch who might be participating in the writing of these editorials...
I thin "Spin Alert" is coming to mean "WAAAH this article isn't saying what I want it to" on FR.
Or maybe it's a genuine spin alert. Some folks who were at the game that night, and who live in Norman, know better than you do whether what is being reported is true or not. If you had spent a little time reading PhiKapMom's (and others) posts on this topic, you might recognize this spin for what it is. Then again, it's much easier to come onto a thread and blast people who DO know what's going on, even when you don't.
I agree. The paranoid style in American politics hasn't completely shifted over to the left.
Exactly.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Been a regular ole civil war around here lately. That means we dont all agree.
Careful, your ignorance is showing.
ping for a new editorial out of OU... (SPIN and PROPAGANDA ALERT)
For someone who just signed up today, you sure have made your mind up about Free Republic rather quickly.
And "mind freaker" also got zotted pretty quick too! Kitty Food!
We agree. We have agreed. Now we know who agrees with us.
The FBI. The president of OU. A U.S. representative.
Of course, they could all be lying. They could be conspiring to set up an elaborate scheme allowing terrorists the chance to escape punishment ...
But wait! This isn't three independent sources: "But U.S. Rep. Tom Cole, R-Okla., confirmed the FBI has told him the same thing."
The "conspiracy" only requires that a single entity lie: the FBI. If the FBI lies to a US Rep, to the President of OU, and directly to the media, that would do it. And we know that the FBI has lied about Waco, OKC, TWA800, and about a host of other matters, so what reason is there to believe the FBI now? They removed the evidence, so it's not like their claim that "no jihadist materials was found" can be independently verified. They made some critical evidence of TWA800 disappear too, and then had the chutzpah to say "there was no evidence of a missile..." and they relabled their own used pyrotechnic smoke grenades as "illegal silencers," so they could both untruthfully deny having used pyro on the Davidians, and so they could add fraudulent allegations of criminal violations of the NFA against them.
1. Did the dead student ever attend a mosque? What is the original (hearsay or not) source that he did?
2. Did he try to enter the stadium? What is the original (hearsay or not) source that he did?
3. Who, exactly, was his roomate? What is the source for that?
4. What was in the bomb? Was it "TATP" ? Was it "the same as the shoe bomber material."
5. Were "jihadi materials" found in his apartment? What is the first-hand source for that?
I have read a few of these threads, but have not made a solid chart of everything. My impression, however, was that all of the answers to the above questions were quite third-hand or further. I would be happy to be led to exact sources.
The most solid info was that the FBI had interrogated the roommate and friends, which you would certainly hope that they would, but the fact of interrogation does not mean that the results were startling. The fact that he tried to buy ammonium nitrate also seemed solid, but I haven't checked lately to see if the officer who overheard it has been identified and confirmed his info.
Information is always better than speculation, in either direction.
If you'd have followed these threads, as you claim, you'd know the answers to most of these. Even official sources have stated who his roommate was, and what kind of material was used in his bomb. Those weren't "third-hand" at all. Witnesses saw him trying to enter the stadium three times--he was turned away when they wanted to search his backpack. Perhaps witnesses aren't enough evidence for you.
The only questions that would seem to be open then would be the mosque question and the jihadi materials. Here, we have authorities telling an investigator that both are true, but these same authorities are unwilling to go on the record about it. Those will have to remain "open questions" until they do, although I have reason to believe them.
As to leading you to "exact sources"--please use your search function. Go to the threads (thoughtfully indexed under searchword "OUBombing") and use your browser's editor to "find" the words you seek--"cheema" might turn up the sources for the roommate's name, for instance. "TATP" might reveal the original sources for identifying the bomb material. (This one should be among some of the earliest threads, because they id'ed both the roommmate and the bomb substance right away.)
But please don't ask us to do your legwork for you. I, for one, refuse.
You are correct, and the FBI lying about an investigation doesn't neccesarily have to have sinister implications. It may be for PR reasons, but it also could be because they don't want to show their hand in where the investigation is heading. Lots of possibilities.
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