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Another horrible example of the kind of journalism being taught at OU. The OU Daily's editors know nothing more than the rest of us yet they are SURE they are correct. So much for being objective and unbiased! Their professors should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such things to be printed in these papers, and the students should be ashamed as well.

The conveniently forget the FACTS that have been reported that don't jive with the official story. One must wonder why the staff at OU is so quick to believe the FBI and their administrators. Doesn't anyone teach them to be questioning?

The interesting things I turned up in my investigations yesterday (which I will repost below) point toward the reason the staff at OU Daily is so intent on participating in this coverup. One must of course - consider the source, and I have a hunch who might be participating in the writing of these editorials...

1 posted on 10/13/2005 6:27:40 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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2 posted on 10/13/2005 6:32:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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I thin "Spin Alert" is coming to mean "WAAAH this article isn't saying what I want it to" on FR.


3 posted on 10/13/2005 6:35:00 AM PDT by Strategerist
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Remember Tariq Alzoubi? The student interviewed who said Cheema was an "atheist"? Well the following is copied from my blog and I think it's worth mentioning in response to this editorial...

* Tariq Alzoubi was quoted in another article (article at FR) on 10/09 that he was "not happy, but relieved" when it turned out the victim was white, and not Middle Eastern. He then states, "Then the issue came up that his roommate might be Pakistani."

QUESTION: If he knows Cheema well enough to say he is an atheist, how would he not know where he is from? Alzoubi himself is originally from Jordan and Saudi Arabia. He mentions that before 9/11 he knew 30 other Saudis, but afterwards all but 2 left. (Not sure why this is important to the article.)

UPDATE (10/12): I have discovered that Tariq is another "voice of OU".

Who is Tariq Alzoubi?(New on 10/12/05)

This is the student who commented in several articles regarding Hinrichs' roommate Fazal M. Cheema.

I have discovered that Tariq is an opinion column writer at the University of Oklahoma. His column appears every other Wednesday. Hardly what I would call an "objective" voice in all of this. I suspect he is the writer of this column which must contain a "spin alert". [And perhaps the one above?]

Tariq is also listed as the contact for the Arab Student Association at OU.

Read Tariq Alzoubi's editorial (originally printed in the OK Daily (OU) Newspaper). It has been posted on the "Friends of Al-Jazeera" website.
"Considering Al-Jazeera: Objectivity and controversy".

Also of interest is a Letter to the Editor of the Arab Times in which he mentions being "pushed around by the West". This letter was apparently sent on Sept. 15, 2005.

Most interesting, is this OU student webpage found on the OU system. It is an overview of political unrest in the Middle East. At the bottom "composer" credit goes to the following people; Tariq Alzoubi, Aaron Harner, Matt Sexauer, Adam Envoldson, Zak Abbott, and MOHAMED JIHAD!?!? Interesting indeed...
4 posted on 10/13/2005 6:35:48 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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ping for a new editorial out of OU... (SPIN and PROPAGANDA ALERT)


12 posted on 10/13/2005 6:42:40 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/13) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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And OU President David L. Boren sat down with The Daily Wednesday to discuss the situation. He, too, confirmed that it is (and has been) widely believed by the FBI and those closest to the investigation (himself included) that several claims being perpetuated on the Internet and talk radio stations remain unfounded and false.

We agree. We have agreed. Now we know who agrees with us.

The FBI. The president of OU. A U.S. representative.

Of course, they could all be lying. They could be conspiring to set up an elaborate scheme allowing terrorists the chance to escape punishment ...

But wait! This isn't three independent sources: "But U.S. Rep. Tom Cole, R-Okla., confirmed the FBI has told him the same thing."

The "conspiracy" only requires that a single entity lie: the FBI. If the FBI lies to a US Rep, to the President of OU, and directly to the media, that would do it. And we know that the FBI has lied about Waco, OKC, TWA800, and about a host of other matters, so what reason is there to believe the FBI now? They removed the evidence, so it's not like their claim that "no jihadist materials was found" can be independently verified. They made some critical evidence of TWA800 disappear too, and then had the chutzpah to say "there was no evidence of a missile..." and they relabled their own used pyrotechnic smoke grenades as "illegal silencers," so they could both untruthfully deny having used pyro on the Davidians, and so they could add fraudulent allegations of criminal violations of the NFA against them.

16 posted on 10/13/2005 7:14:56 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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Still, we know that some people will put a lot of effort into contradicting the FBI’s analysis, facts be damned.

This is such an arrogant, condescending statement. Even if I agreed wholeheartedly with the OU admin explanation of the bombing, I think I would still characterize this as blatant spin.

As anybody capable of rational thought knows, just because some newspaper prints it, or because some FBI spokesman says it, that does not necessarily make it so.

The FBI's track record has earned it more than a little bit of skepticism from the public at large, and that skepticism is perfectly valid.

I don't know what happened, and I am still perfectly willing to accept that this kid intended to kill himself and only himself. There are just too many unanswered questions, and a lot of people saying "nothing to see here, move along" rather than providing any real answers.

I don't necessarily think that this is some sinister plot, but I think it is obvious that we are not being told everything that is going on.

If the FBI is keeping everything under wraps for security or investigative purposes, I can accept that.

Just don't call me a conspiracy theorist or a tinfoil-hatter because I have some legitimate questions about holes in the official story. And don't talk down to me like I'm an ignorant fool just because I won't buy hook, line and sinker everything your student newspaper and/or the FBI says.
20 posted on 10/13/2005 8:38:46 AM PDT by Thrusher ("...there is no peace without victory.")
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Posted by me on another thread last hour:

Bill Hemmer of Fox talking with the editor to the OU student newspaper now. Tres Savage saying that FBI and Boren spoke with reporters yesterday and it is less likely Hinrichs was involved in conspiratorial activities with Muslim radicals and more likely just a loner. Not true (he says) was finding of Muslim literature in Hinrichs apartment and Hinrichs attending the Mosque. FBI saying it will have more to say in a few weeks. Savage says its important to clear up these descrepancies and others. Finishes by saying we're "on the backside of the mountain now" contrary to what some web sites are saying.

My comment: A short, disappointing interview that supports the official story not withstanding evidence to the contrary developed and posted here.

25 posted on 10/13/2005 11:22:13 AM PDT by CedarDave (What do Sandy Burglar and Slick Willie have in common? Problems with what's in their pants.)
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Tell these hacks -- and yes, that's precisely what they are -- that they can put out this drivel until the cows come home, but they will never dissuade us from seeking the truth and understanding what the truth is. They can print an editorial every single day saying the same things over and over again, but they'll never convince us they're doing anything more than lying and covering up for terrorists. They are so pathetic and so immature that they sound like little kids sticking their tongues out at us and saying, "See? We told you there was no terrorism involved! So there! Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah!"

At this point, I'm beyond being insulted and angered by their shenanigans. I just laugh at them, at their foolishness, and at their desperation to convince us of something we know is a lie. Methinks they doth protest too much, which in itself shows they are trying to cover up the truth. And they fail to realize that the more they protest, the more that just convinces us that we are right.

28 posted on 10/13/2005 1:28:46 PM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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This piece of trash editorial was probably written by Alzoubi again. It seems the OU Daily is little more than a propaganda sheet for Islamists. And it seems they've made it their mission to "correct" our thinking.

Let me let you in on a little secret, OU Daily: You don't have the power to tell me what to think. Accept that, or keep printing worthless editorials I won't even waste the time to look at.

29 posted on 10/13/2005 1:41:59 PM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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"And OU President David L. Boren sat down with The Daily Wednesday to discuss the situation. He, too, confirmed that it is (and has been) widely believed by the FBI and those closest to the investigation (himself included) that several claims being perpetuated on the Internet and talk radio stations remain unfounded and false."

Key "wiggle room" words and phrases here are:

- widely believed
- several claims
- remain unfounded and false

Wide belief is not unanimous. Several claims are not all. And, it strikes me that these several claims (but not all claims) will "remain" unfounded and false so long as Boren and the FBI are able to maintain plausible deniability.


30 posted on 10/13/2005 2:11:26 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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The conveniently forget the FACTS that have been reported that don't jive with the official story.

Darn that google cache function!

32 posted on 10/13/2005 3:22:20 PM PDT by shezza (God bless the folks in the trenches)
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,i>" We have provided the public with the information we know. "

So, was there shrapnel in the psycho's bomb?

35 posted on 10/13/2005 4:44:45 PM PDT by spunkets
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Ping...

Thanks to LibertyRocks for the ping and the reminder.


40 posted on 10/13/2005 8:08:42 PM PDT by indcons (Let the Arabs take care of their jihadi brothers this time around (re: Paki earthquake))
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What a load of sh**.


45 posted on 10/13/2005 8:53:11 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (No amnesty needed...My ancestors proudly served. [remodel of an old '70s bumper sticker])
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This is the typical CYA agenda. Got to protect the university administration, students and their families so everyone can sleep at night. We will ultimately pay for the MSM trying to keep this quiet.


55 posted on 10/14/2005 5:58:48 AM PDT by sarasota
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I wonder why the search results of his apartment were sealed by the Justice Dep't? Anyone hear more on that?


79 posted on 10/14/2005 11:21:22 PM PDT by Cougar66
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