Posted on 10/12/2005 12:26:51 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite
MIERS & LAST-MINUTE DROP-OUTS [Kathryn Jean Lopez] A journalist friend just spoke with a top Texas lawyer who spoke with Priscilla Owen last week. He says that she "most emphatically" did not withdraw her name from consideration to the Court. If the White House spin is that Harriet Miers got the job because nobody else wanted it, it would seem that the White House is at a desperation point. Posted at 12:07 PM
I disagree, but save an in depth explanation for later, if at all. I went around with Huck on this last week.
The Rules provision in the Constitution cannot be fairly extended to admit changing the balance of powers between the various branches, which this 60 vote arrangement does. If you devolve to a literal read of the COnstitution, you can assert that the Senate has no obligation to seat any part of the President's cabinet, or a court, or to hold an impeachment trial if articles of impeachment are sent from the House. The language in the Constitution is "shall have the sole power to ..." - not "has a duty to ..." Literally taken, it will destory our system of checks and balances.
Whoops!
If this were true, why isn't the Whitehouse conveying that message to conservatives?
Because some of those jackasses are Republicans that we need the support of in future votes. I am reminded of an old political discussion I read about, but have forgotten the context of the conversation, but it fits here.
"I hate covering for that guy, he's a bastard."
"Yea, but he's OUR bastard."
Until we have 50 Conservative votes, this is the hand we have been dealt. And let's not forget that "spineless" Frist was dealt this hand by his 7 Republicans of his 14. I am personally ticked at people like DeWine, Graham, and McCain. THEY are the ones that put the White House in this position. It lead to the confirmation of Owens and Brown...but now look at the cost...
Hey, it worked in S Dakota! We took out the LEADER of the Dems. The Republicans would have to be SMART to try that route though... ;) Seems too common sense!
Well swallow it anyway, because it is a FACT.
The amazing thing, is that this thread assumes who the finalists were, and NONE of you know that. I find it stunning that FReepers are now engaged in a concerted effort to call the President or his staff a bunch of liars or spinners.
With friends like some of you, I don't know why you would expect the President to be concerned about what you think at all. You want him to be loyal to you, but at the first sign of stress, I see many of you jumping off the bandwagon, as I stupidly did last week until I was made to understand what is going on.
This thread is just plain disgusting. That I at one time behaved like some of you are doing on this thread makes it that much worse.
If you'd have posted that in the first place, I wouldn't have posted to you, looking for evidence.
You've capitulated to fact. Congratulations.
They weren't going to support her anyway. I've yet to see anyone say "gee, if they hadn't called me an elitist, I'd have supported her."
It's a red herring.
People really have to remember to use [/sarcasm] tags on these threads! LOL!
What are their names?
Oh my, that is a post of beauty! Thank you. Sorry I missed all the fun back then. Is the poster still an active Freeper? Maybe under a new name after that brilliant analysis?
LOL...and I know his least favorite word, too.
I trust President Bush.
I won't embarrass the posters who are still here by mentioning names.
uh...no.
just because she is nominated doesn't mean we have to lock step support a candidate. If she is not worthy of being nominated, why is she worthy of being supported as the nominee?
Merely because the president nominated her?
Sorry,I wouldn't accept that if clinton was president, and I won't accept it when GWB is president. My standards don't shift based on the party in power.
Don't be surprised if Bush finds a way to end the war before he leaves office. No one else will inherit the 'war time President' mantle.
I don't think he's been Reaganesque. I think he's been LBJ-esque. And I'm not saying that the GOP and DEM parties are the same. I already said a conservative has a better shot with the GOP. But the GOP is not the conservative movement. The GOP is a pack of hyenas who need to be pressured into doing what we want. They are job-seekers. Silver tongued liars. Politicians. And with no alternative for conservatives, we are in the same situation blacks are in with the DEM party. Very little leverage, because when we get pissed, someone comes along to say, "Would you prefer John Kerry??" or whatever. So that leaves us in a bad spot. You wouldn't want to buy a car in a town with only one reputable dealer, would you? How to bargain? So I say stop treating the GOP as us. They aren't us. They are them. We need to use and abuse them, not salute them. Government, remember, is a necessary EVIL.
If she is an originalist, where is the proof of this?
no, they weren't actually looking for support.
They were playing the old democrat game of bullying people into shutting up by calling them names. It's the old liberaly theory that people would rather hold their tongues than be accused of being something socially unacceptable.
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