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MIERS & LAST-MINUTE DROP-OUTS (Priscilla Owen did not withdraw her name)
National Review Online: The Corner ^ | 10-12-2005 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 10/12/2005 12:26:51 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite

MIERS & LAST-MINUTE DROP-OUTS [Kathryn Jean Lopez] A journalist friend just spoke with a top Texas lawyer who spoke with Priscilla Owen last week. He says that she "most emphatically" did not withdraw her name from consideration to the Court. If the White House spin is that Harriet Miers got the job because nobody else wanted it, it would seem that the White House is at a desperation point. Posted at 12:07 PM


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: harrietmiers; miers; priscillaowen; scotus
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To: babaloo
I have never seen such a frenzy on this site.

You weren't around when Bush named Cheney as his Veep candidate. There was much blood in the water then, too. And from the usual suspects.

201 posted on 10/12/2005 1:35:14 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Dolphy

Hey it's just as good as speaking to a friend of a friend of Miers and hearing "whadda gal".


202 posted on 10/12/2005 1:35:14 PM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: Steve_Stifler
I'm holding out for Akhil Reed Amar myself.

NO COMPROMISING WITH THE RINOS!

;0)

203 posted on 10/12/2005 1:35:52 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: Stellar Dendrite
If indications are she's not a fan of such "politically charged" groups (even as a political type in Texas).

K-Lo continues making ill-informed commentary about Miers. (Yes, I'm aware of her colleague posting on NRO's bench forum about Miers' supposed anti-Federalist attitude)

From Miers, Telling Words

excerpt:

It's too soon to judge this nomination. But my guess is that in the end it is the liberals who will have the most misgivings about Miers.

I came to that conclusion after a breakfast interview -- by coincidence the morning of the president's announcement -- with Leonard Leo, who is on leave as executive vice president of the Federalist Society to work with the White House on judicial confirmation issues.

The Federalist Society, an organization of conservative lawyers, has been influential in staffing the Bush administration and recommending candidates for the federal bench. Leo came late to the breakfast from a conference call, in which he was attempting to quash the arguments other conservative leaders were making against Miers.

He spoke as one who has known and worked with her for well over a decade, who has played host to her when she has been a Federalist Society speaker, and -- perhaps most significant -- who joined her in a battle to get the American Bar Association to rescind its resolution endorsing Roe v. Wade , the decision establishing a right to abortion.

~snip~

204 posted on 10/12/2005 1:36:38 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Huck

that is just another way to stifle dissent


205 posted on 10/12/2005 1:36:46 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: Huck

"This is where we differ. I don't see GOP vs DEM as us vs. them. I see it as THEM vs. THEM"

This is where we differ :) The Dems are polar opposite of most republicans in the house, senate, and certainly the White House. Besides the border, over spending, and a couple other smaller issues, Bush has represented the conservates gallantly. He has been a moral, straight shootin, Reaganesque leader. Whereas almost anybody running as a democrat has a moral compass that is doing 360's, are aligned closer to marxism than JFK liberalism, and would outspend this White House easily (not easy to do). It's like night and day.


206 posted on 10/12/2005 1:37:03 PM PDT by art vandelay (Ohhh me CANADA)
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero

Not if you like Kool-Aid.


207 posted on 10/12/2005 1:37:09 PM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: babaloo
You refreshed my memory- the McClintock and Schaivo fights were brutal, too.

Toomey / Spectre was interesting too, but much smaller.

It's fairly easy to identify the posters who benefit from being in the GOP-power elite.

208 posted on 10/12/2005 1:39:22 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: flashbunny

Those are all excellent reasons why you and I and most (if not all) of our fellow FReepers would not have nominated her. They even call President Bush's objectivity on the matter into question. What they fail to do is provide an actual reason to oppose her once nominated. She seems to satisfy the Constitutional requirements for the position. I may not like the choice, but I voted to have the President make that choice and now I have to live with it... right?


209 posted on 10/12/2005 1:39:47 PM PDT by Aldin (George Miller's Rebellious Serf)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

You are correct. I was not here when Bush chose Cheney. Let me guess, "too old", "a crony retread"... what else am I missing?


210 posted on 10/12/2005 1:39:59 PM PDT by babaloo
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To: hosepipe
" Let there be blood in the aisles instead of blood on the steets.. All we need is a president thats not a coward.. The bully pulpit could be easily used to hammar the gang of 14 into the congressional rug.. but it would take a president that will not Unite with the first bully to try to mug him.."

BUMP!

211 posted on 10/12/2005 1:40:21 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Ol' Sparky
“It's business Sallie... business.”
212 posted on 10/12/2005 1:40:50 PM PDT by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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To: Artemis Webb
So this woman... spoke with this guy...who spoke with this guy...who spoke to Owen. Well if that's not an irrefutable source I don't know what is!

That's all the news media seems to require for airing a story. Why should we demand anything more, I ask you? ("Journalistic integrity"? What's that?)

213 posted on 10/12/2005 1:40:55 PM PDT by shezza (God bless the folks in the trenches)
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To: Huck

I'm not a politician. I don't calculate this vs. that. I think what I think and I vote how I vote. If a Democrat comes along with a good platform, I'll vote for him. I couldn't give two craps about the GOP.




Your entire post was a thing of absolute beauty!

Thank you.


214 posted on 10/12/2005 1:42:33 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (I am conservative. That is NOT the same thing as Republican. Don't place party over principle.)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

The White House is at a desperation point? This is someone asserting that IF the White House claimed that no one else wanted the job that would be untrue. The White House hasn't made that claim.

I think this nomination has drug every self important whiney conservative out of the woodwork to look for reasons to be offended. If they can't find reasons to be offended they start becomming offended about hypothetical possible reasons.

This seems to be a case where the hearins on the nominee might actually be useful and if we can get the Senators to ask questions and listen to the answers rather than talking to hear themselves talk, they might be informative.

She's been nominated. Get over it and wait until we have information from the hearings to form an opinions about her with.


215 posted on 10/12/2005 1:42:46 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: EllaMinnow

Hm, your September 30 citation about Owen withdrawing has been ignored.

Probably so will my noting in post 204 evidence that Miers is not anti-Federalist Society as some (including the ever-shallow K-Lo at NRO) keep insisting.


216 posted on 10/12/2005 1:43:11 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Shermy

"Could you imagine next GWB picks his personal CPA to be Fed Chairman?"

Chris, that's a darn good analogy.

Interesting historical facts:

Salmon P. Chase - resigned from Lincoln's cabinet after disagreements with the President. Lincoln then made him CJUSSC, and he swore Lincoln in for his second term.

Teddy Roosevelt offered WH Taft either the Republican party nomination or the CJUSSC. Taft, at his wife's insistence, took the White House. After his solo term in office, WG Harding eventually gave him the CJUSSC post as well.

Earl Warren's soldiering as a loyal Republican, both as Dewey's VP nominee and Governor of California, earned him Eisenhower's nomination as CJUSSC.

I'm sure BOTH sides can find ammo in the above, being just a few of the USSC nominations that could have "smacked of cronyism". But just so you don't think it's "unprecedented".

I think Bush honestly felt it would make his base feel better that he accomplished both of his goals:

1) Nominate someone who he KNEW PERSONALLY would be an originalist

and

2) would be confirmable.

I would be willing to bet that he is stunned, after going to the mat for YEARS on behalf of people like Owens, Pryor, Brown, Estrada, etc. that the base would question his committment to picking originalist judges. I still contend that he had been told, after they let Roberts off easy, that it would be nigh impossible for him to get a true conservative through on the next nomination. I think he thought he would be congratulated by his supporters for putting an originalist on the court that they couldn't use a paper trail on to reject this nominee.

I think the White House is in disarray by all of this because they are stunned that they aren't "trusted" by the base on this one after the numbers of nominees that they have stuck with to the bitter end. All you have to do is look at the way the BJ Clinton unceremoniously dumped Hillary's good buddy Lani Guinier to see the difference between sticking with your people with conviction, and running when "the going gets tough."

I think Bush thinks he had a person who he knew to be a solid originalist. I don't think he felt he was "betraying" the movement. I believe he felt he was fulfilling his campaign promise.

For what it's worth...


217 posted on 10/12/2005 1:44:11 PM PDT by Keith (now more than ever...it's about the judges)
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To: Cboldt
expressing that as a reason directly exposes the nomination as a compromise away from "the best" that could be had on a majority consent.

The nomination is already a compromise; it is self-evident to anyone that can reason. It's the parade of excuses that add insult to injury. Just come out and admit that while Meirs may not be the best qualified, she's the best qualified that can be confirmed. Works for me.

The GOP is acquiescing by silence, to a 60 vote hurdle erected by anti-constitutional activists. It ratifies the filibuster as appropriate.

Senate rules by their very nature are constitutional. If the Senate wants to enact a rule requiring a 60 vote super-majority, they have every right in which to do so. Likewise, if a Republican majority wants to change the rules to 50+1 for judicial review, they too have every right; they just need to exercise it.

218 posted on 10/12/2005 1:44:51 PM PDT by lemura
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To: sinkspur
Myers and Saad are out. They were rejected as part of the Gang of 14 negotiations.

The GOP-lead senate is deliberatly sitting on nominations that it properly has in hand.

Myers and Bolye have been voted out of Committee, and are on the Senate's Daily Executive Calendar. Haynes, Kavanagugh and Saad are in committee.

Yesterday you said these nominations had been withdrawn. Put up, or knock off the misrepresentation.

From the link you provided to demonstate Saad "was rejected" ...

For justice, Henry Saad deserves a vote. The Senate leadership ought to make sure he gets one. And with the debate on several other judicial nominations wrapping up, there's no time like the present.

219 posted on 10/12/2005 1:45:06 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: cyncooper

You promised to never to post to me again. Now you have violated your own word. To save you from yourself I did not read your post.


220 posted on 10/12/2005 1:45:41 PM PDT by cynicom
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