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Miers is the wrong pick (George Will)
Townhall ^ | October 4, 2005 | George Will

Posted on 10/04/2005 7:33:33 PM PDT by jdm

Edited on 10/04/2005 7:41:50 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON -- Senators beginning what ought to be a protracted and exacting scrutiny of Harriet Miers should be guided by three rules. First, it is not important that she be confirmed. Second, it might be very important that she not be. Third, the presumption -- perhaps rebuttable but certainly in need of rebutting -- should be that her nomination is not a defensible exercise of presidential discretion to which senatorial deference is due.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Really?

Then why is it that when another user posted a comment to the effect that Harriet Miers was "more qualified" to serve in this capacity than Hillary Clinton, no one came forward to challenge this blatantly inaccurate assertion?

I yield to no one in my contempt for HRC, but when I read that comment my stomach turned.

When did being a conservative become synonymous with scrupulously adhering to the agenda put forth by the Republican Party, or countenancing statements that you knew for a fact to be false?

841 posted on 10/05/2005 1:34:44 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("I'm okay with being unimpressive. It helps me sleep better.")
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To: JeffAtlanta
Are you sure about that? Gore got about 96% of the black vote and Kerry got about 90%. No republican has ever recieved more than 4% of the black vote?

Bush has gained a slight increase in support from African-Americans during his presidency. Although he only got 9% of the black vote in 2000, he received 12% in 2004, with the increased black vote in Ohio giving the victory to Bush over Kerry.
Source: Wikipedia
842 posted on 10/05/2005 1:36:38 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Way to go, GWB...your choice, and you earned it.
The COMMITEE will be at a loss.
Please, let's hope she's not totally wierd.
You know how pretty much all of GWB's appointments have been wierd and totally inappropriate....like_____ for example.
843 posted on 10/05/2005 1:37:40 AM PDT by des
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To: des
Like Norman Mineta.

And Paul O'Neill.

And Judge Richard Gregory.

For example...

844 posted on 10/05/2005 1:39:47 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("I'm okay with being unimpressive. It helps me sleep better.")
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To: nopardons; Don'tMessWithTexas
Were you also against the Roberts nomination?

Probably, given that Roberts was an "unknown quantity" until after his 22 hours of testimony in front of the world.

845 posted on 10/05/2005 1:40:34 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
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To: itsahoot
You seem to want to ignore the fact that Democrats controlled the Senate at that time.

Given how the Republicans won't go to bat for this administration, fighting the fights that matter most, one would think the Democrats control it today.

846 posted on 10/05/2005 1:44:44 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
These piss ants who have been sucked into the cult of personality are only alienating the ones that they will need if GWB ever has another opportunity to select a truly top drawer nominee

You really need to back off JUST a bit.

847 posted on 10/05/2005 1:45:28 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: ottersnot
"If," "might," "perhaps."

That vocabulary should not be at issue when we are talking about filling out one ninth of the most powerful branch of government.

This is not dog-catcher, it's not Director of the OMB, it's not even the Secretary of State.

It is the Supreme Court!

How many times do we need to emphasize that before the gravity of this situation begins to sink in?

The mere fact that this nomination has provoked a debate among people who should be on the same page on this issue-if nothing else-should tell you something.

848 posted on 10/05/2005 1:51:19 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("I'm okay with being unimpressive. It helps me sleep better.")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

You've been mighty busy today trashing this president.


849 posted on 10/05/2005 1:54:21 AM PDT by Howlin
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Thank you George Will. Can't speak for anyone else, but it's impossible for me to support this nominee and like Will, I hope she's defeated. However that's of course highly unlikely. Bush will have enough Democratic votes to handily overcome any core conservative revolt on this one. Oh well, I guess we can't have everything. Hopefully the negative political implications of the discord he's wrought in the base, will improve GWB's selection process if Stevens' seat opens.


850 posted on 10/05/2005 1:57:05 AM PDT by empirekin768
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To: jf55510

Miers may be a stealth nominee for those Bork jockies who want to find that one flaw that will torpedoe President Bush's choice. I am sure our opponents in this great culture war have gone over the obvious nominees with a fine tooth comb. With Miers choice, President Bush has thrown a wrench into the strategy of the DemonRATs (I will only call Zell Miller a Democrat). By the time they have started to find something, the hearings will have been over.

This niminee was one of strategy. The Republicans have 51 Senators. Many of them cannot be trusted to hold firm to a down to the line fight which would have occured with any of the known contenders. President Bush was not going to put a nominee in that kind of jeapardy--not when the DemonRATs had vowed to put this next nominee through the grinder as payback for the defeat they suffered with the Roberts victory. With this tactic working, the President decided that it is one he can win with. Now those Republicans in the Senate will not have to face any serious embarassment from the DemonRATs who are known to Bork nominees on such things as pubic hair on Coke cans. Now the DemonRATs risk criticism


851 posted on 10/05/2005 1:59:15 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: nopardons
Yes, I wanted the instant gratification of knowing we had a slam-dunk pick. Taking things on faith, or waiting to know it works out is always harder. But I won't give up on winning through the GOP structure.

We are all dying to see to see the judicial reveiew and activism come to an end. We all have that in common I think. I don't see that happening if the base rips apart on something like this. It requires patience and lots and lots of baby steps.

Yes, I want that tangible reassurance of the paper trail. Yes, I definitely want to know more. I can deal with the wait for now, knowing that nothing worthwhile is ever easy.

852 posted on 10/05/2005 2:07:09 AM PDT by ottersnot (Kill a commie for your mommie....Johnnie Ramone. American Rocker and patriot)
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To: empirekin768
I honestly don't believe that many conservatives are hoping for her defeat.

The notion that any prospective replacement will be any better is unreasonably optimistic, to say the least.

Even a withdrawal of the nomination-which would have been the best possible outcome of this process-is unlikely.

I'll say it once again.

The damage has already been done.

Period, end of sentence.

853 posted on 10/05/2005 2:14:34 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("I'm okay with being unimpressive. It helps me sleep better.")
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To: Williams
I agree. He did not give any real explanations for his statements about her lack of ability to be a good Supreme Court Justice.

I need to learn more about her legal background before I make up my mind. He did not help me there. He lambastes the President for saying "Trust me." It sounds to me like George Will wants us to trust his elite intellectual reasoning without giving us anything solid to go on.

I want to know how knowledgeable she is of the Constitution and what her interpretation is on the most important points. Does she adhere strictly to the Constitution as written, or does she feel that it is out of date and the Supremes get to reinterpret it as they see fit in order to modernize it.
854 posted on 10/05/2005 2:14:36 AM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: jonrick46
I am sure our opponents in this great culture war have gone over the obvious nominees with a fine tooth comb

Wow, you are so right; I hadn't even thought of it, but by this time after naming Roberts, the damning TV ads had already been on the air for 24 hours!

855 posted on 10/05/2005 2:17:03 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
The White House can put the most positive spin on this nomination, it won't change the fact that they're nominating a profoundly weak candidate from a position of extraordinary weakness.

I'd reserve judgement before launching into blind accusations as "weak". Because you can't know more about her than Ms. Miers or President Bush himself.

856 posted on 10/05/2005 2:18:50 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
Then why is it that when another user posted a comment to the effect that Harriet Miers was "more qualified" to serve in this capacity than Hillary Clinton, no one came forward to challenge this blatantly inaccurate assertion?

Because the assertion is true?

857 posted on 10/05/2005 2:20:23 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

They're not lifetime appointees Einstein.


858 posted on 10/05/2005 2:21:36 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
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To: olde north church

"Why does it seem Evangelical/Religious Right groups are supporting Miers and "Intellectual" Conservatives are not?"

I started noticing this pattern yesterday too...


859 posted on 10/05/2005 2:21:55 AM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/Laocoon.htm)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
How many posts have you-and other advocates of this nomination-made defending Miers by invoking the weakness of the Republican majority-the largest such majority in quite some time-or the ineffectiveness of the Republican Caucus in the U.S. Senate, or the inability of President Bush to defend his values on multiple fronts?

You've made my case better than I could have ever hoped to.

The entire pro-Miers argument is redolent of defeatism.

860 posted on 10/05/2005 2:25:51 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("I'm okay with being unimpressive. It helps me sleep better.")
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