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Miers is the wrong pick (George Will)
Townhall ^ | October 4, 2005 | George Will

Posted on 10/04/2005 7:33:33 PM PDT by jdm

Edited on 10/04/2005 7:41:50 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: slowhandluke

Harry Blackmun "voted the right way" while Nixon was President; Justice O'Connor "voted the right way" and was FAR more conservative during the first few years after she was appointed,and even David Souter largely "voted the right way" on a number of cases during his first term on the Court while Bush Sr. was still in office.

The President may indeed believe that "in his heart" Harriet Miers is conservative; However, perhaps as some have speculated she has just been telling him what he wants to hear; Further, she is insufficiently qualified (Imagine if President Clinton appointed someone with her background?), and has in no way demonstrated over the course of her legal career that she is indeed a judicial conservative. If anything, her contributions to Al Gore, change of religion, involvement in the ABA instead of the Federalist Society, etc seems to indicate that she is a woman of few firm convictions - making her a HUGE risk to drift to the Left the longer she is on the Court.


961 posted on 10/05/2005 1:53:58 PM PDT by larlaw
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To: McGavin999
I don't think a nominee's personal beliefs matter at all. What matters is what the constitution says. What is important is that any nominee understands that. Beliefs change, character does not, so character is very important. If you believe that the constitution says what it says then that's exactly what we want on the court. All other issues follow that reasoning.

Well I don't think I disagree with that, and I'm sure W is judging her on her professional demeanor. But we all know that as soon as a person gets onto a place like the Supreme Court where no one can force you to be accountable to anybody, there's a big temptation to let your whims have rein. Blackmun, Kennedy, Souter, and others all started out as reasonably conservative in their first year, just as they appeared to others before confirmation, but with no one to answer to they all soon enough discovered the bleeding heart that was always within them.

The danger in a nominee like Miers is that there's no evidence she's thought deeply about why she's a conservative, what it means to be a conservative, or what any of that means when it comes to interpretation of the constitution. With someone like her, there's a big danger that her personal beliefs are all that matter. There is no reason to think she has any objective philosophy of jurisprudence to fall back on.

962 posted on 10/05/2005 2:04:57 PM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: SpringheelJack
There is a danger regardless of who we put in there. That's why judicial track records mean absolutely nothing and character and judicial philosophy mean everything.

I don't know about you, but I don't want someone making decisions based on what they "feel" about a given situation. I want them making decisions based on the law, what it actually says, what the original intent was. The consitution is a very short document. It doesn't take a law degree to understand it, but it does take a good mind to understand the babblings of the various lawyers who present their case. I don't want someone basing a decision on which lawyer made the best "legal" case, I want it based on what the constitution says about how it applies in this situation.

Track record means nothing. Character and judicial philosophy mean everything. W knows those things about her, we won't until the hearings. Of course, that is provided the committee actually asks questions instead of expounding on their favorite issue for ten minutes until their time is up and the next one starts pontificating.

Who knows, maybe one of the best things that will come out of this nomination is that the judiciary committee will actually begin to ask questions again.

963 posted on 10/05/2005 2:20:19 PM PDT by McGavin999 (We're a First World Country with a Third World Press (Except for Hume & Garrett ))
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To: McGavin999
There is a danger regardless of who we put in there. That's why judicial track records mean absolutely nothing and character and judicial philosophy mean everything.

On that I disagree. No one knows for a fact what Harriet Miers's character and judicial philosophy is except for herself. Not even Dubya. The best we can do is judge her by her actions and writings, and boy if there ain't much to go on.

Judicial track records sure mean a heck of a lot more than nothing. At once, it might tell us not to support her; it could also give us reason to. But there are no reasons to support her, other than that George W. Bush is fond of her. That's what's so frustrating about all this.

964 posted on 10/05/2005 2:27:02 PM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: SpringheelJack
No, if you remember the Clarence Thomas nomination, many were saying we didn't know anything about him either. As a matter of fact, some conservative writers were saying his rulings were "Souteresque". Track record means nothing.

Once they go into those hallowed halls, don that black robe, look at themselves in the mirror and say "I have a job for life, nobody can stop me now" we have no say in the matter.

Souter was an unknown, but he had a judicial record that was deemed acceptable. Look how he turned out, quite possibly one of the worst Justices the Supreme Court has ever known.

Dubya comes closest to knowing those things about her since he has worked closely with her for years, first as his council in Texas and then in the WH. He has also had the opportunity to get a very close look at her judicial philosophy as she argued her position on the various judges that were vetted by her.

Dubya is also very well aware of how his father's legacy was tarnished by Souter and there is NO way he is going to make the same mistake.

965 posted on 10/05/2005 2:36:30 PM PDT by McGavin999 (We're a First World Country with a Third World Press (Except for Hume & Garrett ))
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To: kabar

Too bad. Really puts Presidents in a bind. But if there's no alternative, I'm sanguine with it. :|


966 posted on 10/05/2005 2:54:32 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: slowhandluke

" I would consider it quite strange than the only totally free speech medium be one that the Founders did not know of. I suppose even then, should FreeRepublic become a subscription service, I'd be in trouble for paying money to insert my promotion into Jim Robinson's media."

I share that concern. If this law is abused to limit speech that is not political advertising I will have to concede I was wrong.


"We may just have to continue to disagree. My position is that the government should make no law limiting how or how much or how often political speech occurs."


Lots of good discussions end that when both parties are sincere. And I agree with your statement, I just don't think that money is speech and that these are spending limits not speech limits.


967 posted on 10/05/2005 2:54:50 PM PDT by gondramB (Conservatism is a positive doctrine. Reactionaryism is a negative doctrine.)
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To: GianniV

Maybe the PResident can pull of the impossible.


968 posted on 10/05/2005 2:55:59 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: gipper81
"These brilliant political theoreticians want a fight, a filibuster and a defeat all in the name of selecting their perfect candidate for the Supremes. Brilliant."

Thank you for affirming what I have been saying. I might add, that if it were not for hurricanes Katrina and Rita, President Bush might have opted for a fight that might have lasted through to January. With these disasters, there is much on his plate and we cannot let the DemonRATs put this country through that. We still have more things such as the continuing Iraq war, a boarder policy, the energy crisis, Social Security, and, if you can believe it, an emerging Bird Flu catastrophe (if it mutates to be transmitted through human to human contact).

Wait until the hearings. I am sure that Harriet Miers will do the Conservative Cause proud.

I wrote that there were 51 Republican U.S. Senators. My mistake: There are 55 Republican U.S. Senators.

969 posted on 10/05/2005 3:40:36 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: nopardons
Why don't you just join Crazy Cindy Sheehan and try to get him impeached?

Because he is my guy, I just want him to behave. and keep his word. Close the borders, cut spending, and send me a lot of money.<(•¿•)>

970 posted on 10/05/2005 3:42:12 PM PDT by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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To: itsahoot
He never promised that he would build FORTRESS AMERICA, the Congress hold the purse strings, and he's not going to send you a lot of money. Hopefully, what he will manage to get through both Houses, is making ALL of the tax cuts permanent and do away with the death duty.
971 posted on 10/05/2005 4:41:33 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: gondramB
I just don't think that money is speech

Whereas I think money goes directly to the how much and now often part of freedom of the press. (Just a note to further clarify differences).

972 posted on 10/05/2005 6:14:15 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: larlaw
If anything, her contributions to Al Gore, change of religion, involvement in the ABA instead of the Federalist Society, etc seems to indicate that she is a woman of few firm convictions - making her a HUGE risk to drift to the Left the longer she is on the Court.

I totally agree.

973 posted on 10/05/2005 6:15:58 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: RWR8189
I have to say I agree to a large degree with Will's analysis.
Bush while having been good on the War on Terror and Tax Cuts has been nothing short of a disaster in other areas.
(1) Illegal Immigration
(2) Prescription Drug Bill that will add no less than a $1 Trillion to the Budget in the next 10 years
(3) No Child Left Behind School Bill, We spend already $1 Trillion on education at the Federal, State and Local Level and it just doesn't seem to be enough.
(4) Under Bush spending has increased an astounding 33%, the most since LBJ and his Social Programs.
(5) Not one Veto of any Bill, Spending or Otherwise from this President.
Far from being a Conservative in any shape or form he is more RINO like his Father and Grandfather.
Lot of missed opportunities with this President, with a Republican Congress. I actually think we were better off when the Republicans were running Congress and keeping Clinton in check and we got some results that have now been squandered.
974 posted on 10/05/2005 6:29:42 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Williams

LOL! Good for you! My brother is a senior partner in a very large firm. He graduated from The University of Toledo, or Toledo University, whatever, for his graduate school. No Ivy League there, but he is a brilliant corporate attorney who handles cases for national and international companies. He was an assistant district attorney before he went with that law firm many years ago. I don't like elitist snobs, either.


975 posted on 10/05/2005 7:42:25 PM PDT by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: delacoert

You're correcr because they do and they are


976 posted on 10/05/2005 8:56:45 PM PDT by middie
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To: nopardons
Hopefully, what he will manage to get through both Houses, is making ALL of the tax cuts permanent and do away with the death duty.

You are a real Koolaide drinker. I was only joking about sending me money.

The oath to be taken by the president on first entering office is specified in Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Now for a list of those things in the Constitution he is supposed to preserve and protect. http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.html

977 posted on 10/06/2005 8:27:31 AM PDT by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Irish Eyes

Actually, by definition she is a "Souter" since she is an "unknown quantity" as Jeff writes. It doesn't matter which way she eventually goes.


978 posted on 10/08/2005 2:29:07 PM PDT by streetpreacher (If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
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To: jonrick46
President Bush might have opted for a fight that might have lasted through to January.

The Democrats would have lost the fight, even if they had succeeded in filibustering a nominee. That bill would have come due at the ballot box in November 2006.

The same thing happened in 1991 when Democrats tried to sink Thomas's nomination. Many Americans resented the Democrats' small-mindedness and hypocrisy, and that helped sweep the Republicans to a majority in the House for first the time in decades.

By ducking the fight this time out, Bush allowed the Democrats to win by forfeit.

979 posted on 10/08/2005 2:36:44 PM PDT by JCEccles
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