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Miers is the wrong pick (George Will)
Townhall ^ | October 4, 2005 | George Will

Posted on 10/04/2005 7:33:33 PM PDT by jdm

Edited on 10/04/2005 7:41:50 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON -- Senators beginning what ought to be a protracted and exacting scrutiny of Harriet Miers should be guided by three rules. First, it is not important that she be confirmed. Second, it might be very important that she not be. Third, the presumption -- perhaps rebuttable but certainly in need of rebutting -- should be that her nomination is not a defensible exercise of presidential discretion to which senatorial deference is due.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
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To: holdonnow

Then it goes in the fireplace. I'll think of you and your posts,as I shred it and fling it into the flames. You're just lucky, that I'm not a Voodoo high priestess; but rather, just a nobody, who happens to have a radio show and wrote a book.


761 posted on 10/04/2005 11:49:29 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Wolfstar
Start with George Will, the author of the above article, and a quintessential snob. Then work your way down from there. However, the pundits, themselves, do not constitute an elite group. Instead, many are elitists. Snobs. Do you seriously think that only Leftists are capable of elitism? Elitism is not a political characteristic, but a class characteristic.

Do you seriously think only leftists get drunk on koolaide and think ad hominem arguments have merit?

762 posted on 10/04/2005 11:49:30 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Chena

It's about the third, possibly fourth error I've made in 7 years. Oh well......it happens. LOL


763 posted on 10/04/2005 11:51:01 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: JeffAtlanta

We may not survive the backlash. Primaries are to rectify problems in the GOP. It is up to us to put the best people in power and get as many people as possible to our side. Even if all of FReepdom agree to elect a Reagan rethread, it wouldn't mean squat if the people decide to send McCain to run for the Presidency.

Besides, socially conservative Democrats is definitely better than Socialist liberal Demoncr@p$. With a Big Guvmint GOP, we still have a fighting chance of putting in Small Guvmint GOPers, especially if they share the core values (strong national defense, morality and God, accountable and beneficial governing, low taxes, etc) With the Demons? No chance.

They have 60 years to sneak in liberals and socialists into the once august Democrat party. We can turn the tables on them and run the traitors right out of town.


764 posted on 10/04/2005 11:51:19 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: Wolfstar

So do you want to consign these elite conservative media types to purgatory? Who would be left of the conservative media after y'all conduct your purge.


765 posted on 10/04/2005 11:51:34 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Chena
Meltdown?

Elitism is a belief or attitude that an elite — a selected group of persons whose personal abilities, specialized training or other attributes place them at the top of any field (see below) — are the people whose views on a matter are to be taken most seriously, or who are alone fit to govern. Thus elitism sees an elite as occupying a special position of authority or privilege in a group, set apart from the majority of people who do not match up with their abilities or attributes. Thus this selected elite is treated with favouritism.

766 posted on 10/04/2005 11:53:04 PM PDT by ottersnot (Kill a commie for your mommie....Johnnie Ramone. American Rocker and patriot)
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To: JeffAtlanta

Different justices, urgency, change of heart...

Ultimately the Courts decide what they hear or not. It doesn't matter if the issue is revisited 50 times. If the Justices say "Ok, let's hear it," it's done.


767 posted on 10/04/2005 11:53:47 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: JeffAtlanta
"The point of my previous post is that the democrats don't fear loss of the black vote by going after black nominees."

I never mentioned that nor did I claim that they did. Neither did I think it.

However, do you recall how carefully the Senators on the Judiciary approached the questioning of Anita Hill?

They had to be a little more careful with a woman than a man. And while they're NOT worried about losing votes, the members of the Judiciary, while they would have been tough on Rogers-Brown, would not want to APPEAR too mean-spirited, so they would have been less rough on her than on Clarence Thomas. Additionally, with all the attention on the hearings, she would have been able to play up her humble background. She would have been confirmed.

768 posted on 10/04/2005 11:56:28 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (A Reagan Conservative and mighty proud of it.)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Hmmmm, and what if she were to turn out to be one of the most consistant originalists ever put on the bench.

I read an article tonight that said that Thomas was not exactly known and some of his rulings were "Souteresque". What if everyone had listened to that?

The simple truth is, you don't know how someone is going to rule once they get up in that high, thin air. You can only count on their judicial philosophy, and Dubya is in the best position to know that.

By not waiting until you have a better understanding, you risk being the pressure behind eliminating someone who could possibly be of the calibre of Thomas and Scalia. Or, she could possibly end up being as squishy as another Kennedy. We just don't know until we listen to what she says in the hearings.

769 posted on 10/04/2005 11:56:43 PM PDT by McGavin999 (We're a First World Country with a Third World Press (Except for Hume & Garrett ))
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To: flashbunny
well, when you have 56 votes in the senate and control of the presidency, why settle for less?

You can't even trust all of them to do the right thing, let alone fight the good fights when needed, the true Conservatives included. Many of them couldn't find 5 minutes in the day to come to the floor and shoot down the Democrats tactic to filibuster many of Bush's judicial picks.

770 posted on 10/04/2005 11:58:22 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
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To: TAdams8591
I never mentioned that nor did I claim that they did. Neither did I think it.

I believe the original poster made that claim and I thought that you were agreeing. No biggie.

However, do you recall how carefully the Senators on the Judiciary approached the questioning of Anita Hill?

That is because she was a black woman that was a possible victim of sexual misconduct being questioned by white Republican senators. Being a woman had nothing do with beyond the sexual harrassment charge.

771 posted on 10/05/2005 12:02:12 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta

No, I think it was both.


772 posted on 10/05/2005 12:03:49 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (A Reagan Conservative and mighty proud of it.)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

Did you support him from the first announcement? Id so, why? There wasn't much of anything at all known about him on day 1.


773 posted on 10/05/2005 12:03:54 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

Did you support him from the first announcement? Id so, why? There wasn't much of anything at all known about him on day 1.


774 posted on 10/05/2005 12:04:07 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: McGavin999
Hmmmm, and what if she were to turn out to be one of the most consistant originalists ever put on the bench.

That is just a form of gambling? Why not just invest your money by picking stocks at random and hoping that they might be the next Google? It might work out, but it would just be a matter of luck.

It is always a more sound practice to pick a known quantity.

775 posted on 10/05/2005 12:04:24 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: jf55510
When appointing someone to the Supreme Court you want someone with practical legal skills and a working knowledge of Constitutional law and issues Miers does not have that ConLaw knowledge.

There's so much in your post, and it's very late. So let me just respond to the above point. YOU may want someone with practical legal skills and a working knowledge of Constitutional law. Many presidents since 1789 have wanted other things in their nominees. Quite a number of Supreme Court justices had no prior judicial experience at all. Many, if not most, were not Constitutional scholars. As for a "working knowledge," what does that mean? Anyone who successfully goes through law school and passes a bar exam would have "working knowledge" not only of the U.S. Constitution, but of their state as well.

Do you know that of the 17 U.S. chief justices (including Roberts), only six had prior judicial experience on any court, let alone a federal appeals court? One of them, Roger Brooke Taney, was Secretary of the Treasury at the time he was appointed to chief justice. He served briefly as U.S. Attorney General before becoming Treasury secretary.

Another, Melville Weston Fuller, served one term in the Illinois House of Representatives before being offered the posts of Chairman of the Civil Service Commission and Solicitor General of the U.S. (a post recently held by Ted Olson). Fuller turned down both appointments. Finally he was nominated to be Chief Justice and was confirmed.

The history of the court is filled with justices who do not meet the standards being thrown around today by conservatives upset with the appointment of Harriet Miers.

776 posted on 10/05/2005 12:05:17 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm." GWB, 1/20/01)
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To: TAdams8591
No, I think it was both.

If it has been a black man that the white, Republican senators were questioning, they would have been just as delicate.

777 posted on 10/05/2005 12:05:50 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Black Tooth
Everyone knows that they ate the dead. So do cannibals.

You want the death of the GOP; I don't.

778 posted on 10/05/2005 12:07:09 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Hey, name caller, I'm backed up. Why don't you take care of your wee little faceless nobody self?
779 posted on 10/05/2005 12:09:04 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Mo1
It doesn't get much nastier than putting someone on mini-trial for sexual harassmant during a Supreme Court Confirmation hearing.

And Rogers-Brown would have been a first, the first Black Woman US Supreme Court Justice. She would have been confirmed.

780 posted on 10/05/2005 12:09:11 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (A Reagan Conservative and mighty proud of it.)
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