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Miers is the wrong pick (George Will)
Townhall ^ | October 4, 2005 | George Will

Posted on 10/04/2005 7:33:33 PM PDT by jdm

Edited on 10/04/2005 7:41:50 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON -- Senators beginning what ought to be a protracted and exacting scrutiny of Harriet Miers should be guided by three rules. First, it is not important that she be confirmed. Second, it might be very important that she not be. Third, the presumption -- perhaps rebuttable but certainly in need of rebutting -- should be that her nomination is not a defensible exercise of presidential discretion to which senatorial deference is due.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: bushisadummysayswill; georgewill; harrietmiers; scotus
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To: jdm

"If 100 such people had been asked to list 100 individuals who have given evidence of the reflectiveness and excellence requisite in a justice, Miers' name probably would not have appeared in any of the 10,000 places on those lists."

Not so: she was on Harry Reid's list!


21 posted on 10/04/2005 7:41:54 PM PDT by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: Black Tooth
Will there be any conservatives left by 08?

No kiddin. We already can't watch a movie.

22 posted on 10/04/2005 7:42:00 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: flashbunny

I'm not attacking him, but I'll repeat my .02 from a thread this morning ... does a revolt on the right which results in the defeat of this nomination, and IMHO that's where the revolt would come from as signaled by Mr. Will and others, not do irreparable damage to President Bush and pretty much put his administration into lame-duck status from here on out?


23 posted on 10/04/2005 7:42:05 PM PDT by GB
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To: All

This lady is was a gun owner. It is documented she owns/ed a .45 caliber pistol for self defense.

Many conservatives consider gun control more a threat to America than abortion. This particular quality of this lady is reassuring.


24 posted on 10/04/2005 7:42:05 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Black Tooth

"Oh boy, here we go. Another conservative joins the ranks of the leftist. Will there be any conservatives left by 08?"

That's the exact opposite of the truth. It is the opponents of Miers that are really staying true to conservative values and intellectual tradition. When "I trust him" becomes sufficient argument for any action, then conservatism will truly be lost.



25 posted on 10/04/2005 7:42:26 PM PDT by Betaille ("And if the stars burn out there's only fire to blame" -Duran Duran)
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To: Betaille

that's my problem as well.

It's like saying "I give up my right to be critical and evaluate something on its merits because it was done by someone else I was told I should trust."

NEVER give away those rights and responsibilities.


26 posted on 10/04/2005 7:43:04 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: Betaille

you missed his update on post 12: That was sarcasm.


27 posted on 10/04/2005 7:43:58 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: Black Tooth

Oh boy, here we go. Another conservative joins the ranks of the leftist. Will there be any conservatives left by 08?

What makes you think George Will is a conservative? He is not you know.


28 posted on 10/04/2005 7:44:23 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Betaille

"When "I trust him" becomes sufficient argument for any action, then conservatism will truly be lost."

Spot on.


29 posted on 10/04/2005 7:44:39 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Black Tooth
Will there be any conservatives left by 08?

That's the problem with the choice. Miers may end up being terrific, but this choice will damage the Conservative coalition.

30 posted on 10/04/2005 7:45:00 PM PDT by zarf (It's swollen, yes.)
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To: Black Tooth
These are only TV Conservatives so they get paid to bash everything that isn't 100% to the right out in the open. It's their job to think, talk and write this way and never waiver. They can be wrong because they are experts again for the next news bite but the President can't ever be wrong.

Heck even PJB was on Mathews tonight and said Bush owed him a well know conservative Judge and Mathews said even if you know they'll never get approved and Pat said yes because he was owed.

The last time I checked Pat has trashed Bush every chance he gets ?

31 posted on 10/04/2005 7:45:34 PM PDT by america-rules
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To: flashbunny

Based on the first response I would say it has already begun.

If it was a neccessity to choose a woman for "balance". With all the great, conservative women who were available it is too bad that the President resorted to cronyism for his selection. It used to be that friends of the president got cush ambassadorships, now I guess they get lifetime appointments to the highest court in the land, how sad.


32 posted on 10/04/2005 7:45:54 PM PDT by redangus
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To: Black Tooth

Just CINOS, in the pundit class. ;^)


33 posted on 10/04/2005 7:45:59 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: jdm

"In addition, the president has forfeited his right to be trusted as a custodian of the Constitution.


Mr. Will, if you truly and deeply believe this statement, I expect you to call for impeachment.

In fact- if you do believe this- you are obligated to do so.

If not- this is an outrageous statement.


34 posted on 10/04/2005 7:46:14 PM PDT by SE Mom (Keep an open mind; nothing will fall out.)
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To: Betaille

Please see 12. I have a twisted sense of sarcasm. I agree with you.


35 posted on 10/04/2005 7:46:31 PM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: jdm

Yes, you see that Constitution's soooo complicated, that sweet little old lady from Texas couldn't possibly be expected to understand it!
George Will, an elitist's elitist. It's guys like him that see all the penumbra's and emanations in there somewhere.


36 posted on 10/04/2005 7:46:38 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (Coulter:"Even with hindsight, liberals can't see straight")
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To: flashbunny

"I give up my right to be critical and evaluate something on its merits because it was done by someone else I was told I should trust."

How do they reconcile that with conservatism? Isn't conservatism (particularly it's judicial philosophy) all about independent reasoning and objective/critical thinking? This is not consevatism... it's blind followership. I strongly recommend that everyone watch "A Man for all Seasons" if they have never seen it, as I think it pertains to this situation.


37 posted on 10/04/2005 7:46:51 PM PDT by Betaille ("And if the stars burn out there's only fire to blame" -Duran Duran)
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To: gondramB
Do we really want to call people "leftist" when we disagree?

Thank you. I'm a big supporter of the President, and this is not the name I anticipated being put forward.

I'm tired of the implication that I am a "leftist" or "soft conservative" because I'm not thrilled with this choice.

The best I can do is hold my fire until I learn more. I'm keeping an open mind.

I refuse to support this choice out of loyalty. She will stay on the Court much longer than he'll stay in the White House.

38 posted on 10/04/2005 7:47:21 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: toddp
"In the coming days, it will become known that she is extremely pro-life. I am getting this information from decent sources. She has been actively involved in church, including working as a Sunday School teacher and doing missions work."

I say this as a Christian...So what? She isn't being nominated for Dean of a seminary. She is being nominated for the Supreme Court. While Godliness is virtue in all things, what is most important here is that she be a scholar and a constructionist. If all she has to offer is that she is a Christian Lawyer, then she is a bad pick.

Bush's nominees need to be constitutional scholars and constructionists first and foremost. They should be Christians as a bonus. Besides, Bush did not select her for any of the reasons you are favoring her. He selected her out of cronyism. She has been a loyal supporter and he wants to reward her. Will is correct, Bush is using the Supreme Court as a play thing.

I do not respect George W. Bush.

39 posted on 10/04/2005 7:47:33 PM PDT by T.Smith
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To: edcoil

Why is Will not a conservative? IMHO he is. He may not be a Free Republic-type conservative, or a social conservative, but I think he's certainly conservative. Rush himself said yesterday that the conservative movement isn't monolithic, that conservatives come in all shapes and sizes and several different varieties.


40 posted on 10/04/2005 7:47:41 PM PDT by GB
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