Then again, it might poison the fish!
John / Billybob
Mornin', CBB..Guess the 500+ who are being laid off by the Times are also incompetent..and did you see the article by the Times ombudsman...he flat out tears Keller apart for failing to correct the comments about Geraldo, and also for NOT making Krugman do a correction...It's here somewhere..i'll try to fid it for you
they could save paper and ink by just adjusting every story's headlines, and the first and only paragraph to be "It's Bush's Fault".
Well, that's what happens when you smoke crack.
Ah yes, biased journalism , if the NYT gave any perspective in their articles they might have to give just a little credit or respect to the conservatives or President Bush. Their DNA (democrat negative attitude) wont allow that, don't you know?
Then again, it might poison the fish!
.....Katrina showed the world that performance standards for the Department of Homeland Security were so low that it was not required to create real plans to respond to real disasters.”......
Your assertion about there really is a plan does not contradict what the Times said. The Times says that the feds were not required to have a plan.
You have to give them a break. They have made the mental jump from a republic of states to an all powerful parlimentary state where the feds control everything. The fact that actual events haven't kept up with the time table established in 1992 should not be held against them. The fact that there is Republican control should not have any effect on events had not the election been stolen.
If America were Europe, the Times would be right.
What's hilarious is listening to the media constantly repeat the slogan that "Texas and FEMA learned their lessons from the failures in Katrina." I laughed when they said this (in the form of a question) to one of the mayors, who responded by saying, "we just simply followed our original plans." In fact, even one of the SW Louisiana Police Chiefs pointed out how his town was more prepared than New Orleans.
Good sentiments, but a paragon of the "straw man" argument.
Reading it at face value says to me that the NYT expected HS to have evacuation plans for major cities; the straw man is that the state of LA did, so NYT criticism of HS is invalid.
And the Iraq Constitution, as written, does indeed include Sharia law as the source. Straw man number two is to make a lot of noise about a certain number of seats reserved for women and simply ignore the Sharia part.
Not in the least. But apparently their readership is (or lack of) and their (lack of) advertizers are, and why The Times is a billion $$ in debt.
“Four years after 9/11, Katrina showed the world that performance standards for the Department of Homeland Security were so low that it was not required to create real plans to respond to real disasters.”
The New York Times has performance standards so low they have no plans to respond to real disasters, like the diminishing readership of their paper.
The New York Times is a sissy left wing rag.
Asking whether the Old Grey lady has any shame is akin to asking if Communist apologists have any shame, if Communists have any shame?
"There is no truth, only that which advances the party". That worked until the Internet came along.
-It has been made clear to the entire staff of the Times...-
The entire staff is all of one mind? Who would've guessed?
Don't tell us, it makes you feel like cussing
I get incensed when I read this kind of stuff. You are correct. They know the facts, but they refuse to publish them for purely political reasons.
bttt
On September 12th, I posted the following to the thread here on Free Republic: School-buses Showdown: Mayor Nagin v.s Russert:
" 'Conduct of an actual evacuation will be the responsibility of the mayor of New Orleans. The city of New Orleans will utilize all available resources to quickly and safely evacuate threatened areas. Special arrangements will be made to evacuate persons unable to transport themselves or who require specific life-saving assistance. Additional personnel will be recruited to assist in evacuation procedure as needed. Approximately 100,000 citizens of New Orleans do not have means of personal transportation.'
Anyone who's ever done any real large scale planning realizes that this "plan" was a joke, a sham. The tipoff is this line: Special arrangements will be made. You can't make special arrangements after the fact. The arrangements have to be made beforehand. Prior planning! Everything has to be planned out in as much detail as possible BEFORE the disaster happens. This "plan" has no details at all, and that is what caused hundreds of people to die. That one little paragraph begs dozens of questions.
Who, exactly, would drive the buses? Every bus in the city should have had a primary and two alternate drivers, assigned by name to a specific bus.
Where, exactly, would they go to pick up evacuees? Every bus, regardless of its normal use, should have an emergency packet inside it saying where to go to pick up passengers in case of an evacuation (ie, "Report to the Superdome.") There should also be maps, etc. in the packet.
Where would they fill their gas tanks prior to departure? The city should have pre-arranged with local gas stations for fueling.
How would they account for the people on each bus?
What about the sick and injured? Could some buses be designated as medical buses? If so, do they go to different locations where the evacuees can get medical help? Where?
How many people can each bus take, assuming two bags per person?
Where would they take the evacuees once the bus is loaded?
Would the buses shuttle back and forth from the pickup and dropoff points? If so, what arrangements could be made to backhaul supplies into the hurricane zone from the unaffected areas?
Where do the buses refuel along the way?
I've come up with these questions in five minutes, as I've written this post. Whoever wrote and approved this plan should be held criminally negligent in the deaths of many of the evacuees."
So, although you are technically correct in saying that New Orleans had a plan, what they actually had was just some eyewash.