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Darwin Goes to Church
Washington Post ^ | 9/18/2005 | Rev. Henry G. Brinton

Posted on 09/20/2005 5:35:52 PM PDT by curiosity

Most adult Sunday school classes don't raise eyebrows, but my church is planning to hold one that's sure to. It's called "Evolution for Christians," and it will be taught this winter by David Bush, a member of the church I lead, Fairfax Presbyterian. David is an articulate government retiree who has been interested in this topic for nearly two decades, teaches a class on theories of the origins of life every five years or so, and once again has really done his homework. His view is that science and religion answer two different sets of questions about creation, with science answering the "how" questions, and religion answering the "why" ones. "With a little bit of wisdom and tolerance on each side," he tells me, "I think they can complement rather than contradict each other."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allcrevoallthetime; christianity; creation; crevo; crevolist; crevorepublic; darwinism; enoughalready; evolution; religion; unbelief
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To: VadeRetro

On Pumpernickel :-)


141 posted on 09/20/2005 7:47:17 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Half man, half chicken.
142 posted on 09/20/2005 7:48:16 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: VadeRetro

Uh-oh. Nomad just announced that "Jackson Roykirk" is the True Creator.

http://www.podster.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fotos/tv_nomad.jpg


143 posted on 09/20/2005 7:48:37 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Gumlegs

ROFL! :-)

Thare ya go! Proof!


144 posted on 09/20/2005 7:49:02 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: keithtoo

If there are any evolutionists who are even interested in understanding the creationist viewpoint; there is a good book out called The Fingerprint of God by Hugh Ross. It would give you some insight into creationist thinking.


145 posted on 09/20/2005 7:49:45 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
NOMAD ...







... is an eye, lad!
146 posted on 09/20/2005 7:50:15 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: curiosity

YEC INTREP - COMPROMISE ALERT!


147 posted on 09/20/2005 7:50:39 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Hey!!! Wait a min! I landed on one gross! Whoohoo!


148 posted on 09/20/2005 7:50:46 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: All
Out for the night.
149 posted on 09/20/2005 7:50:57 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
If you want to be part of a conspiracy that cares, you have to care yourself.

That's the great Bert Williams, by the way.

150 posted on 09/20/2005 7:51:26 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: VadeRetro

LMAO!


151 posted on 09/20/2005 7:52:25 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Gumlegs

:-)

I am out as well for the evening.


152 posted on 09/20/2005 7:53:13 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: curiosity
Darwinism doesn't excite me at all. What does give me goose bumps is Stephen Hawking and his theory of 11 dimensions. And we only live in 4!! Four dimensions are necessary for our life form, and Hawking thinks some of the 11 are curled up "somewhere."

Most scientists believe in God, a superior intelligence - that our universe is an intelligent design.

But, as far as I have read, with the exception of time travel and "wormholes", the scientific field has not yet researched the miracle of Jesus and the Reincarnation, and His reappearance again.

In one of his lectures, Hawking did ask something to the effect, that if one can travel back in time, why hasn't anyone come forward?

Anyway, it's all very fascinating to me. Talk about mysterious....

153 posted on 09/20/2005 7:53:24 PM PDT by lakey
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To: keithtoo
Your Muslim fanatic anti-evolution site is par for the course for religious zealots who deny the scientific method.

http://www.darwinism-watch.com/


They claim that evolutionary scientists lied when they said that the genes of humans and chimps were 99% identical, and cite a new study that compared the entire genome and found they were "only" 95% identical. Well guess what geniuses, this result was not only predictable it WAS predicted. Anyone who has studied molecular evolution (that would be me) can tell you that the entire genome is not made up entirely of genes, and that although there is much identity conserved among genes (i.e. they are very similar among animals thought to have a recent common ancestor) where there is selective pressure to preserve function(another prediction of the theory of evolution through natural selection validated), but not much identity conserved among non-gene DNA where there is little or no selective pressure to preserve function.

There is a gradient of similarity. Proteins are most similar when compared between species. DNA that codes for protein ("genes" are DNA that code for protein) is fairly well conserved. DNA that doesn't code for protein isn't very well conserved.

So no evolutionary scientist was surprised when a comparison of the entire chimp genome showed 95% identity to humanity while a comparison of their genes showed 99% identity. I'll make a prediction that a comparison of their proteins would show a GREATER than 99% identity; and a quick check of a few proteins would indicate that I was correct awaiting a more complete survey.
154 posted on 09/20/2005 7:54:04 PM PDT by Mylo ( scientific discovery is also an occasion of worship.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Me, too. G'night.


155 posted on 09/20/2005 7:54:30 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: keithtoo

It seems that the best a fossil can do is "prove" that something existed at one time and doesn't anymore.


156 posted on 09/20/2005 7:55:03 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: bobdsmith

You are asking for the join between various tips of the evolutionary tree. Well the join occurs further down the tree - ie in the past. The link between the reptiles and bird lineages was long ago for example, and while there are fossils of such bird-reptile forms long ago, there are no living bird-reptile creatures that have survived to this day. There is no reason they should still exist, and certainly no reason at all that modern reptiles would be turning into mammals, or birds.

There are still creatures that exist as they were in pre-historic times, are there not? Why should have the bird-reptile have necessarily gone extinct? Is it because ther was no use for it anymore? That's weird. So, it seems that what you are saying is that modern repitiles would not be evolving anymore. But why not? If they evolved millions of years ago, why did the process stop? If evolution is a continuous process then we should still see transitional forms today as lower forms are evolving into higher ones.


157 posted on 09/20/2005 8:06:02 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: newgeezer
Genesis 2 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground

If you regard Genesis as literal, rather than allegorical, how would you define the terms "day", "night", "evening", and "morning" prior to the creation of the Sun on the third "day"?

158 posted on 09/20/2005 8:16:34 PM PDT by supercat (Don't fix blame--FIX THE PROBLEM.)
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To: strategofr

A friend of mine, who was going for his PhD in antropology and happened to be a Christian who knew Hebrew, told me some very interesting things about the first couple verses in Genesis. If anyone knows Hebrew and can let me know if these are wrong, please do so but, here goes... He said that there is a change in tense between the 1st and 2nd verses of chapter one. The first verse indicates creation and the second verse indicates that the Earth BECAME void, as if something happened to it to change its original form. From then on God had to clean it up, so to speak, and make it habitable for man. His theory was that it was the fall of Satan, shen Satan was cast out of Heaven. There are other Scripture verses that indicate that at one time Earth was a place of great mineral beauty.
As an aside, I also don't see why a 6 day creation is inconsistent with the laws of physics, etc. God could have simply established those laws at the same time He created the Universe. Just because there are oil and coal deposits, doesn't mean He couldn't have created the Earth with them in place, knowing that we would someday need them.


159 posted on 09/20/2005 8:17:09 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: VadeRetro

Like I said, I've already been to talkorigins and have a slight problem with some of their "science".


160 posted on 09/20/2005 8:23:02 PM PDT by swmobuffalo (the only good terrorist is a dead one)
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