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LIVE THREAD - German polls closed: AP: SCHROEDER DEFEATED!
SABC NEWS ^ | September 18, 2005, 08:15

Posted on 09/18/2005 12:12:37 AM PDT by alessandrofiaschi

Voting began in Germany's closely fought election today with millions of undecided voters holding the key to a result that will have major implications for economic reform in Europe.

Angela Merkel, a Christian Democrat (CDU) chancellor, is expected to emerge as Germany's first woman chancellor, displacing Gerhard Schroeder who has led Germany for the past seven years at the head of a centre-left government of Social Democrats and Greens.

A provisional result is expected to be announced in the early hours of Monday morning. The final opinion polls published on Friday gave Merkel's centre-right coalition with the liberal Free Democrats (FDP) a slim lead in a race it once dominated.

High stakes For Germany and the rest of Europe, the stakes in the election are high. Some five million Germans are out of work, the country's pensions system is in crisis, its public finances are overstretched and the economy that once drove growth in Europe is now acting as a drag on the rest of the continent.

Analysts say that if Germany succeeds in pushing through reforms, they could be a model for change in the rest of Europe. Surveys show that most Germans believe the system needs changing but they are deeply uncertain about how far the changes should go and how the burden should be shared.

Schroeder's own "Agenda 2010" reforms to welfare and labour market rules have been the most ambitious attempt to overhaul the social security system in decades. They have been attacked by the conservatives and by some commentators as not going far enough. The reforms were bitterly resented by voters. - Reuters


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To: Earthdweller

Schroeder's out, regardless of how the election goes. :'D Yippee!!! Best of all, the reprehensible street thug, Joschka Fischer, is also out. See that now-superceded "Merkel" topic (linked above) for a few more odds and ends.


61 posted on 09/18/2005 8:44:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I think Merkel will win by a good margin...we know how polls are skewed to the press' favorites.


62 posted on 09/18/2005 8:44:23 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: alessandrofiaschi

10 minutes until showtime BUMP!


63 posted on 09/18/2005 8:50:15 AM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: wolf78

CNN also has a poll we should all FReep. Right now it's 35 per cent Schroeder, 52 per cent Merkel. Heh... Schroeder's wife said (as they left the voting place), that her husband sez, when the sun is shining, the SDP wins it. That 25 per cent undecided bloc seems to be partly made up of people who know there needs to be change, but are not sure who can deliver it. Obviously, with Merkel's party in charge of the lower house, it sure isn't Schroeder et al.

Jürgen Trittin, Germany's minister of the environment, will soon be out of gov't, although not out of his seat in the parliament.

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Posted on 08/31/2005 10:00:20 AM PDT by wolf78
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33 posted on 08/31/2005 12:38:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1474159/posts?page=33#33


64 posted on 09/18/2005 8:52:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: GiveEmDubya

Come on Angie!!


65 posted on 09/18/2005 8:53:16 AM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: GiveEmDubya

bttt


66 posted on 09/18/2005 8:53:51 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: All; snugs; knighthawk

thank you all



"It is 1750 here now this is very close I will update after all is done I want Herr Merkel to win. This will close 1800 our time."



67 posted on 09/18/2005 8:54:43 AM PDT by anonymoussierra ("The wisdom of the wise and the experience of ages-Isaac Disraeli")
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To: anonymoussierra

That would be Frau Merkel


68 posted on 09/18/2005 8:56:42 AM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: MDspinboyredux



"This is close really close keep your fingers and thanks for correcting me I appreciate that. One minute left."


thank you"MDspinboyredux"danke


69 posted on 09/18/2005 9:00:50 AM PDT by anonymoussierra ("The wisdom of the wise and the experience of ages-Isaac Disraeli")
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To: MDspinboyredux

it is looking as though the FDP has won more than expected in early numbers.... Let us hope. CDU FDP coalition is obviously what we all want...


70 posted on 09/18/2005 9:02:28 AM PDT by NYURepublican
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To: All

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4257010.stm



"Come on Angie!!""Come on Angie!!""Come on Angie!!"




thank you"MDspinboyredux"


71 posted on 09/18/2005 9:03:14 AM PDT by anonymoussierra ("The wisdom of the wise and the experience of ages-Isaac Disraeli")
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Exit Poll on DW:

CDU/CSU: 35.5%
SPD: 34%
Green: 8.5%
FDP: 10.5%
Links: 7.5%
Others: 4.0%


72 posted on 09/18/2005 9:04:15 AM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: anonymoussierra

ZDF TV website has the numbers (exit poll, probably):
CDU/CSU 37%
SPD 33%
FDP 10.5%
Grune 8%
Linke/PDS 8%


73 posted on 09/18/2005 9:04:53 AM PDT by AdrianR
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To: GiveEmDubya

Which one of those parties is Merkels?


74 posted on 09/18/2005 9:05:27 AM PDT by Dog ( We haven't forgotten you Commander Michael Speicher)
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To: Dog

CDU is Merkel's party.


76 posted on 09/18/2005 9:06:09 AM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: GiveEmDubya

DW TV Exit Poll:

CDU/CSU/FDP: 286 seats


77 posted on 09/18/2005 9:06:19 AM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: GiveEmDubya

Screw exit polls. All I care about are REAL numbers. Is there a site that has live results?


78 posted on 09/18/2005 9:06:56 AM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: anonymoussierra

No problemo


79 posted on 09/18/2005 9:06:58 AM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: anonymoussierra
Schroeder wins re-election German Press Says Schröder Won

No, that article only says he won the TV debates.
80 posted on 09/18/2005 9:07:32 AM PDT by AdrianR
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