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Islamist terrorists organizing in Bosnia & Islamist terrorists organizing in Bosnia
The Washington Times ^ | Sep. 14, 2005

Posted on 09/14/2005 8:20:13 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah

Islamist terrorists organizing in Bosnia

Al-Qaida may have an intact terror network operating in the Balkans, German security officials say. Sources within Germany's Bundesnachrichsiendienst, or Federal Intelligence Service (BND) told the German news agency DDP that both the Madrid terrorists, and some of those who perpetrated the London bombings, had "contacts with Bosnia," DDP reported Monday. The BND sources told DDP that European intelligence services had "vague indications that another terror cell controlled from Bosnia is preparing a new attack on London".


Muslim terror targets Europe

Muslim terror groups have targeted Europe as "the domain of war", the EU's counter-terror chief has warned. "The trend is clear. As was already apparent in the Madrid attacks and the killing of the Dutch film maker Theo van Gogh, Europe has become both a target and a source of terrorism perpetrated in the name of Islam," Gijs de Vries, the European Union Counter-Terrorism Coordinator said in a speech he delivered earlier this week in Israel to the Institute for Counter-Terrorism's annual conference. "No longer is Europe only a base of support for attacks carried out elsewhere in the world. European societies have become an integral part of Dar al-Harb - the domain of war," de Vries said. "The threat to Europe emanates from Europe-based Islamist networks as well as increasingly from unaffiliated actors: groups and individuals acting independently but sharing a jihadist ideology," he said. "The risk of further attacks in Europe -- and on Europeans elsewhere in the world -- is real and will probably remain high for years to come," de Vries said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedabalkans; balkans; bosnia; europe; globaljihad; islam; islamohomos; jihad; jihadicheerleaders; muslim; terrorism; terrorists
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To: ma bell

Silly me, listening to refugee reports and Human Rights groups....

I should listen to the likes of Emperors-clothes.com instead!


41 posted on 09/16/2005 10:02:11 AM PDT by johnnyBbad
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To: ma bell
i could care less if it were AQ or Hamas, Egyptian islamic army, etc... to me, they are all the same || They are all bad guys that are to be taken out ||

Agreed. Not sure how that applies to average Muslims in Bosnia though. They're about as Muslim radical as you or I.

42 posted on 09/16/2005 10:03:17 AM PDT by johnnyBbad
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To: Ooh-Ah

If we know this to be true, why wait??

Let's roll!!


43 posted on 09/16/2005 10:03:18 AM PDT by airborne
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To: zagor-te-nej
Dobar dan...
I saved the article, stayed up late and read "Pogledi" end-to-end. I don't understand why the MSM do what they do, or why. But, I'm not a bit surprised they gave Bosnian Muslims better coverage than the Serbs. World news organizations and American MSM are giving the same negative coverage against the United States in Afghanistan and Iraq. Nothing positive, all negative.

In my observations, it appears the press leans their coverage to which political party is in the White House. For example, President Clinton entered two conflicts in the Balkans without UN or congressional approval. On the other hand, Bush had to walk on water to chase Islamofascists in Afghanistan, and fought at home and in the UN for Iraq? There you are? The guys with the black hats are good, and the white hats are bad.

If the stories in "Pogledi" are true, and were corroborated, then the main issue should be why the Hague is prosecuting some Serbs for war crimes, and not any to speak of Bosnian Muslims? If there was that much evidence, and eye witnesses that ID'd Naser Oric for his war crimes, and then, the so called world court gave him a pass, would prove they have a different agenda then world rule of law. If the Hague is in fact doing this, they should be disbanded, or not be recognized as the world court. Moreover, I'm not a bit surprised with the inaction of Dutch NATO troops, and not impressed with Dutch law. Both in my opinion suck.

Again, thank you very much for furnishing me the information. There's a lot I understand about the Balkans, however, I'm not an expert and plead ignorant on many issues.

44 posted on 09/16/2005 11:55:14 AM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: johnnyBbad
you might read the rag mag, i don't.

majority of those groups are slanted with political leanings. many of what you write on here comes from yellow journalism, gutman, sugraman and amanpour types.

45 posted on 09/16/2005 2:12:57 PM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: ma bell
you might read the rag mag, i don't.

Please. The whole "fake-death-camps" story you referred to on another thread was a commie-rag piece (one which later fell apart in court).

I can't tell you how many Serbs I've met who insist that Yugoslavia was broken up by a CIA-Capitalist plot to destroy the "positive example" of Yugoslavia - straight out of a Chomsky rant or a Workers World Party newsletter!

46 posted on 09/16/2005 2:51:32 PM PDT by johnnyBbad
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To: johnnyBbad
The ITN film crew was itself caught on film by a Belgrade film crew that went there with them. The ITN-ers put themselves behind fenced in area around a barn/shed and filmed through that. They were filmed walking in there through a gap in the dilapidated fence of chicken wire with a few strands of barbed wire on top attached to thin, leaning poles. The men were in a refugee area and free to go. Other people, including women, were seen sitting in the shade beneath the trees in the background of other footage taped that day. They were people displaced from the war and fighting.

The thin man, Fikret Alic, was brought forward when Penny Marshall started pointing out thin men among them - so they brought him forward as one who was really skinny. That man is living in Denmark with his Bosniak wife and child. There was no evidence of injury or bruising on any of the men. Many Bosnians left for Europe to sit out most of the war. Fikret Alic was in Europe shortly after that propaganda film.

47 posted on 09/16/2005 3:40:22 PM PDT by joan
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To: joan
Not the Trnopolje BS again, Joan.

Been there, done that.

You know how this plays out Joan, yet you're still pushing these lies.

Why?

Feh. It's a rhetorical question. Don't bother.

48 posted on 09/16/2005 5:15:35 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: johnnyBbad
Some folks you just can't reach.

Which is why we have the USAF.

= )

49 posted on 09/16/2005 5:16:52 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: joan
The LM article basically claimed that the camps were merely temporary holding places where refugees could come and go as they wished.

This lost the libel trial because that claim was rubbish.

There has never been any question in my opinion or in the article that I published that this camp was anything other than a grim place at which there were beatings, there were killings and there were rapes. There has never been any question of that. We have never argued contrary to that. - Michael Hume

I do not say that they at the time were able to leave and there - you know, there were fences, there were guards, which we have seen here, armed guards. - Thomas Deichmann

In other words, the only people who still think Trnopolje was no big deal are the Marxists and Serbs with very selective listening skills.

50 posted on 09/16/2005 5:20:55 PM PDT by johnnyBbad
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To: Hoplite
You'll be interested to know that a few months ago I e-mailed Jared Israel at TENC.com to let him know why LM lost the libel trail, complete with the two above quotes that settled the matter.

No response :)

51 posted on 09/16/2005 5:35:51 PM PDT by johnnyBbad
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To: johnnyBbad
Jared's rather a queer bird.

Can't seem to get along with either the truth, or those who make their living distorting it like he does.

I got quite a few chuckles out of the spat for control of the ICDSM that he and his compatriots got into, but I couldn't ever see engaging him in a discussion.

Seems like it would be a complete waste of time.

So maybe you're lucky you never heard back.

52 posted on 09/16/2005 5:50:11 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
I got quite a few chuckles out of the spat for control of the ICDSM that he and his compatriots got into...

What was that all about?

53 posted on 09/16/2005 5:58:41 PM PDT by johnnyBbad
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To: johnnyBbad
Vultures fighting over a carcass, more or less.

Whoever controls the ICDSM controls the donations given to the ICDSM, so in 2003 there was a struggle for control of the ICDSM, which played out on various websites, but most illuminatingly on the Jurist's Milosevic discussion board, which has now passed into posterity.

Here's a taste.

It was a regular soap opera.

54 posted on 09/16/2005 6:17:37 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: ma bell
Hey sport,

It appears the Republika Srpska has provided the FBI with personnel rosters, listing those who served in the BSA.

Raises an interesting question for some folks, don't it.

55 posted on 09/16/2005 6:38:38 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Ooh-Ah

I thought Clinton took care of the problem over there.


56 posted on 09/16/2005 6:41:11 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: ladyinred; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; joan; ...

As our two Islamist cheerleaders can show you as they slam the thread back and forth to each other, Clinton only solved the problem by killing anyone who stood up to the Muslims.


57 posted on 09/16/2005 9:08:46 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: johnnyBbad; Smartass
Please. Were it not for Arkan and his boys sweeping through Eastern Bosnia the foreign jihadists would never have flocked to the Balkans in the first place.

Sorry, but Izetbegovic wanted an Islamic state long before Arkan was a pimple on the ass known as the Bosnian war.

"Alija Izetbegovic: Alija Izetbegovic, current Bosnian president and head of the SDA, in 1970 authored the radical "Islamic Declaration," which calls for "the Islamic movement" to start to take power as soon as it can overturn "the existing non-Muslim government . . . [and] build up a new Islamic one," to destroy non-Islamic institutions ("There can be neither peace nor coexistence between the Islamic religion and non-Islamic social institutions"), and to create an international federation of Islamic states. [The Islamic Declaration: A Programme for the Islamization of Muslims and the Muslim Peoples, Sarajevo, in English, 1990] Izetbegovic's radical pro-Iran associations go back decades: "At the center of the Iranian system in Europe is Bosnia-Hercegovina's President, Alija Izetbegovic, . . . who is committed to the establishment of an Islamic Republic in Bosnia-Hercegovina." ["Iran's European Springboard?", House Republican Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, 9/1/92] The Task Force report further describes Izetbegovic's contacts with Iran and Libya in 1991, before the Bosnian war began; he is also noted as a "fundamentalist Muslim" and a member of the "Fedayeen of Islam" organization, an Iran-based radical group dating to the 1930s and which by the late 1960s had recognized the leadership of the Ayatollah Khomeini (then in exile from the Shah). Following Khomeini's accession to power in 1979, Izetbegovic stepped-up his efforts to establish Islamic power in Bosnia and was jailed by the communists in 1983. Today, he is open and unapologetic about his links to Iran:"

source

58 posted on 09/17/2005 6:11:27 AM PDT by F-117A
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To: Hoplite

good, if they lied on their immigration papers or committed criminal acts, they should be deported. We do not need those types in this country.


59 posted on 09/17/2005 6:35:24 AM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: johnnyBbad

He is another opportunist liar. He and I exchanged a few emails about 3 years ago. He was all about finding evidence to proove his points. I offered him a roundtrip ticket to Serbia as I'd be his security/escort etc... I never heard back from him after i asked if he was a coward or a liear.


60 posted on 09/17/2005 6:38:34 AM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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