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Islamist terrorists organizing in Bosnia & Islamist terrorists organizing in Bosnia
The Washington Times ^ | Sep. 14, 2005

Posted on 09/14/2005 8:20:13 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah

Islamist terrorists organizing in Bosnia

Al-Qaida may have an intact terror network operating in the Balkans, German security officials say. Sources within Germany's Bundesnachrichsiendienst, or Federal Intelligence Service (BND) told the German news agency DDP that both the Madrid terrorists, and some of those who perpetrated the London bombings, had "contacts with Bosnia," DDP reported Monday. The BND sources told DDP that European intelligence services had "vague indications that another terror cell controlled from Bosnia is preparing a new attack on London".


Muslim terror targets Europe

Muslim terror groups have targeted Europe as "the domain of war", the EU's counter-terror chief has warned. "The trend is clear. As was already apparent in the Madrid attacks and the killing of the Dutch film maker Theo van Gogh, Europe has become both a target and a source of terrorism perpetrated in the name of Islam," Gijs de Vries, the European Union Counter-Terrorism Coordinator said in a speech he delivered earlier this week in Israel to the Institute for Counter-Terrorism's annual conference. "No longer is Europe only a base of support for attacks carried out elsewhere in the world. European societies have become an integral part of Dar al-Harb - the domain of war," de Vries said. "The threat to Europe emanates from Europe-based Islamist networks as well as increasingly from unaffiliated actors: groups and individuals acting independently but sharing a jihadist ideology," he said. "The risk of further attacks in Europe -- and on Europeans elsewhere in the world -- is real and will probably remain high for years to come," de Vries said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedabalkans; balkans; bosnia; europe; globaljihad; islam; islamohomos; jihad; jihadicheerleaders; muslim; terrorism; terrorists
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1 posted on 09/14/2005 8:20:15 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: joan; FormerLib

Ping!


2 posted on 09/14/2005 8:32:42 PM PDT by Dragonfly
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To: Ooh-Ah

The Euro-idiots reap what they sow. Its too bad the poor Serbs had to pay. Now all of europe will pay!!


3 posted on 09/14/2005 8:34:35 PM PDT by Luigi Vasellini (60% of Saudis, 58%of Iraqis, 55%of Kuwaitis,50% of Jordanians married 1st or 2nd cousins. LOL!!!)
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To: Ooh-Ah
Tell us it ain't so, Bosnia is Clinton's success story, I know, for he, the dems, the left, and the MSM has told me so.

Bye the bye, and how is that "they have democracy now" gig of Clinton's going in Haiti?

And Kosovo is peachy too. S\ for all.

4 posted on 09/14/2005 9:11:50 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis; Ooh-Ah; Luigi Vasellini
The very words genocide, slaughter, mass graves are repulsive. But on the flip-side, the Clinton administration bungled it big time by bombing the Serbs into submission. True, the Serbs are bad actors. However, the Serbs should have instead, been sternly warned, and then let them finish booting the Muslims out of the Balkans...all the way out. The Americans simply don't understand the long, hard, deep feelings of the people in that region of the world, that stemmed from the invasion by the Ottoman Empire. Unimaginable atrocities were committed against the Serbs and Croatians for centuries by the Turks. And yes, now with the help of Clinton and NATO, Al Qaeda and terrorism will have a big foothold in Europe. With all the evil events that have transpired, It just doesn't make sense!

5 posted on 09/14/2005 10:17:30 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Smartass

Yet you'll never hear a leftist complain that Clinton purposely bombed innocent Serbian civilians - he personally selected the targets, no less (remember his micromanagement of that campaign?) - even though that is by the most basic, straightforward definition a war crime.


6 posted on 09/14/2005 11:45:42 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. - Patrick Henry)
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To: Ooh-Ah

Hear no evil, see no evil there must not be any evil.


7 posted on 09/15/2005 12:11:31 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Ooh-Ah
Since "Bosnia Bill" stepped in and solved that country's religious war a decade ago, I am surprised to learn that the Moslem's are now carrying out an ethnic cleansing campaign against the Christian population, instead of the other way around. I read an article the other day which reported that dozens of Christian churches have been destroyed in just the past few months and Lord only knows what terrors the congregations must be undergoing.
It also seems that despite Bill's pledge, ("Our boys will be home by Christmas"), they are still there. Bill also failed to get UN approval for his excursion and sold us all on the need for intervention on the basis that there were 500,000 victims of an ethnic cleansing holocaust. The UN has been digging up the killing fields ever since then and have located between 15,000 and 20,000 victims - whether they were Christian or Muslim victims or more likely both, the reports do not say. However, it would appear that Bill deliberately lied about the magnitude of the crimes to justify his excellent adventure.
Strangely, all of this seems to have escaped the attention of the MSM, but I think it only right that Bosnia Bill be appointed as chief negotiator and sent back to the region to find out where his plan went off the rails.
On second thought, don't bother - he'll probably find that it's Bush's fault.
8 posted on 09/15/2005 5:33:02 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: Smartass

Ottoman empire aside, in more recent history, the Muslimes eagerly assisted the Nazis in the killing of over one million Serbs in WW II.


9 posted on 09/15/2005 8:58:54 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
The Ottman's invaded I believe in 1300/1400AD. If the Serbs would have just booted them, instead of ethnic cleansing, there wouldn't have been a fuss. What the Muslims are committing now in Kosovo, is the very reason Clinton, and Madeline Halfbright went ballistic. NATO, or no NATO, the Serbs have very long memories. Plain and simple, Kosovo will never be a U.S. Allie, but for sure, will be a springboard for Islamofascist terrorism.

10 posted on 09/15/2005 10:35:11 AM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Smartass
And yes, now with the help of Clinton and NATO, Al Qaeda and terrorism will have a big foothold in Europe.

Please. Were it not for Arkan and his boys sweeping through Eastern Bosnia the foreign jihadists would never have flocked to the Balkans in the first place. This "we're fighting radical Islam" story was first pitched by the Serbs during the 92-95 war and didn't sell very well for obvious reasons (ie Bosnians aren't radicals). Today they're trying again to a slightly more receptive US audience.

11 posted on 09/15/2005 10:57:31 AM PDT by johnnyBbad
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To: johnnyBbad
The Bosniaks war time leader, Alija Izetbegovic, and his allies in Bosnia, were fishing around in Islamic countries in the early 1980's. Izetbegovic was jailed around 1983 for several years for his anti-Yugoslav activities. When he got out he started where he left off. He, and several others who eventually acquired leadership positions before the war started, were wanting an independent Muslim state all along - and already trying to kick it off not long after Tito died.

Remember the Bosnian Muslims and Croats always choose the outside invading force and fought for them (Germans and Austrians) during WWI and WWII.

12 posted on 09/15/2005 11:15:13 AM PDT by joan
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To: johnnyBbad
Agree. The Serbs didn't go about it right in Bosnia and continued the same in kosovo. I still believe, had they booted instead of kill, they would have been successful. Booting will raise a few eyebrows, whereas, killing will always raise indignation and army's.

Further, what I think the United States doesn't understand, is that the UN, or NATO can be in Bosnia and Kosovo for hundreds of years, and the problem will not be forgotten, or solved!

13 posted on 09/15/2005 11:18:01 AM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Smartass
The Muslims started the killing in both places. The Muslims drew first blood in Sarajevo, Bosnia when they killed Nikola Gardovic, a Serb member of a wedding party (he was the groom's father), in March 1992. Besides him being killed others were injured by the gunfire.

And in Kosovo, the KLA initiated the violence, and even kidnapped, tortured, and killed Albanians loyal to the Yugoslav/Serbian government.

Muslim paramilitary, mafia, thugs, and criminals were active in threatening, terrorizing, and killing Serbs right on the brink of the war in both places.

14 posted on 09/15/2005 11:26:51 AM PDT by joan
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To: joan
"The Muslims started the killing in both places."

The Ottoman Turks, who were Muslims, started the killing when they invaded the Balkans in 1300/1400AD. No matter what, who, or how...the Slavs have never, nor will ever forgive, or forget.
15 posted on 09/15/2005 12:22:41 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Ooh-Ah
THANK YOU BILL CLINTON!!!
16 posted on 09/15/2005 1:55:17 PM PDT by montag813
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To: joan
Remember the Bosnian Muslims and Croats always choose the outside invading force and fought for them (Germans and Austrians) during WWI and WWII.

Yup. And this time all they had to do was sit back and let the conduct of the JNA and Serb paramilitaries push the West into the Muslims' camp.

17 posted on 09/15/2005 2:25:42 PM PDT by johnnyBbad
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To: johnnyBbad
The Muslims went to train and fight in Croatia's war. Some Bosnian Muslims blew themselves up in August 1991 (almost 8 months BEFORE the Bosnia war started) in Montenegro - they were going to plant a bomb for civilians on a beach to help take the pressure of the Croatian front.

Just because you didn't read what they did in the mainstream media (which purposely blocked news of their crimes) doesn't mean they were sitting back.

18 posted on 09/15/2005 2:29:17 PM PDT by joan
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To: johnnyBbad
BOSNIA Recently released secret documents reveal that in the first days of the war, Muslim paramilitary leaders murdered scores of Bosnian Serb civilians in Sarajevo.
19 posted on 09/15/2005 2:32:17 PM PDT by joan
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To: joan
The Muslims drew first blood in Sarajevo, Bosnia when they killed Nikola Gardovic, a Serb member of a wedding party (he was the groom's father), in March 1992.

The killing of Gardovic, carried out by the gang led by Ramiz Delalic (aka Celo), fanned the flames of tension but can hardly be called the opening shots of the war, or a Muslim offensive worthy of the kind of reponse it got from the Serbs.

Kosovo is another matter. The KLA did indeed start the fighting, hoping that the Serbs would lash out against civilians as they did in Bosnia in order to drive more people into the KLA's ranks. Same tactic Tito used against the Nazis and Ustashe.

It worked in both cases.

20 posted on 09/15/2005 2:33:03 PM PDT by johnnyBbad
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